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Derek

Derek

Member Since 28 Sep 2011
Offline Last Active Feb 25 2018 11:50 PM

In Topic: Publication and Scanlation Status

05 February 2014 - 05:26 AM

 

My search only turned up a few results with only one being related, that I linked to in the OP. Which is odd because I searched for keywords that would bring up at least a few of those. Though none of those links you provided are actually the same as my suggestion, just different status proposals that would be too difficult/impossible to maintain.

 

 

Derek, I'll say 1) is a pretty sound choice. Maybe you could start doing it to Projects your team/group handles, and maybe rope in your friends on other groups to do it for their projects. And from my end, I'll do what I can to my Favorite Manga, and hope people don't edit it out again. And, as I said earlier, if it becomes noteworthy enough, it may be added in...

 

I guess this is basically what I'll start doing. Also, I wasn't in the least looking for a scanlation "hiatus" status, that's not something that could ever really be accurately used, nor should it be.

 

 

maybe because a reader site is for reading and a manga update site is for manga updates? not saying the two can't be overlapped of course, that would be stupid. but i really don't think there is the need. convenience isn't a problem at all on a place like the internet. and if you say people are too stupid or lazy to search up news on manga themselves... fine, that's your opinion.

 

sure, no downsides. but no upsides either. it's redundant. what the hell is MU for then? unless you're one of those rltrckr techies who think new is good and old is bad, and MU has gone downhill ever since the DMCA, and we all need a massive change for a little good (if it's good at all and not something people can just ignore after a while).

 

and nope, i'm not anti-reader. i'm anti-mountain-out-of-a-molehill, that's all.

 

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In Topic: Publication and Scanlation Status

04 February 2014 - 05:53 PM

exactly, they're easily available. now going back to the point... why does a reader site need a raw status marker in the first place? we're not the anime news network or MU. sure, let's be different and user friendly and all, but if someone can't be bothered to search something up for themselves, then time shouldn't be wasted on them, either.

 

Because it's useful information that is easily visible on a site they already know and visit. It's also helpful for new readers of a series, because it lets them know ahead of time that a manga is on hiatus or complete and not done scanlation-wise.

 

You seem to be rather anti-reader for someone who's hobby involves spending countless hours doing free labor for.

 

The better question here is, why doesn't a reader site need a publication status indicator?

 

There is no downside to adding this feature. It provides more information on a series' status, stops people from asking about said status, and is just useful to have. The only difference between Batoto and MangaUpdates is that you're able to actually read manga on Batoto. Outside that their functions are completely identical.


In Topic: Publication and Scanlation Status

04 February 2014 - 05:23 PM

i still say the most change that should happen should be the changing of the word "status" to maybe "scanlation status", as you said. batoto is not a manga news site. sure, it can have an extra supposedly useful feature, but it'll take too long to implement. by the time it's done manga will have come and gone, and it will have become worthless. plus, conflicts are already being held over the raw status of some series. why double the trouble?

 

The only thing that might take time to implement with it is making it so it's only visible when the two statuses are different. Adding it alone would be incredibly easy and take no time at all.

 

Conflicts over raw status? I've never seen such a thing. It's not like it's hard to find out the status of a series. Given how many magazines and series are scanned for share, and by people elsewhere, not to mention the information is usually readily available through a publisher's website or through the mangaka's blog/twitter/whatever.


In Topic: Publication and Scanlation Status

04 February 2014 - 03:47 PM

well how long do you think it'll take to update all the comics on batoto with the appropriate statuses? this might've been a good idea three years ago, but it's going to be a bit hard now...

 

i mean yes, the few readers that don't check mangaupdates or scanlator sites might get confused. (wonder why group sites are linked on batoto? it's so that people can visit them. that's what the system is all about.) but to be honest, for most manga, both publication status and scanlation status are the same, so in around 97% of cases the extra status is simply going to be another redundant feature that no one is going to give a second thought to after a while.

 

if readers don't check proper manga news sites or scanlator sites for updates on the manga, then it's their problem. and if they complain about it, well, who cares? ignorant minority, informed majority - they're going to find out sooner or later, and truth be told, it's the scanlator's job to keep them informed. and if the scanlators are lazy... well, loads of scanlators are lazy anyway.

 

It's pretty simple, really. And it wouldn't be necessary to update every comic. Make it so if the status of both of them is the same, it only shows what it does now; "Status". And the cases where a "Hiatus" or "Completed" publication/"Ongoing" scanlation status would be necessary are as you say, there aren't a ton of them, so it wouldn't really take much time to change them appropriately.

 

It's not exactly a "few" readers that don't check MU or scanlator sites, either. It's not the majority of readers on Batoto, but given that a mere 4.4% of Renzokusei's traffic comes from Batoto, when it's only two clicks away, it's safe to say that more than enough people would benefit from something like this.

 

I personally make it a point to try and update the status of every manga we are working on and any changes or news that comes up on our stuff in almost every single post we make, but it's not always going to get caught, and not every group does that. And as I stated before, with such little traffic coming from here, most of it would be missed by people who visit Batoto but not the site. I'd also like to note that when people ask these questions in comments on comics, it is very easy to miss that it was even replied to by someone else. The majority of the comics I follow, I don't get notifications for comic comments anymore, I know it's the same for others too, and in series that get a lot of comments, a reply may get pushed down. How are scanlator's supposed to keep them informed when many don't bother to find the information when it's already out there?

 

Yeah, having this sort of feature would not make a massive difference, but it's one that would be a very very helpful for the series that it would be applicable for.


In Topic: Manga that you want translated/picked up

28 January 2014 - 08:32 PM

I tend to pick up most manga I want to see more of, but there are a few I haven't been able to do that of yet;

 

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