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[Toullaty]

Thank-you for the new chapter !

 

If the attribut of destruction is rare because it isn't one of the original natural forces, this is probably also the case for the attribut "resurrection" and perhaps the attribut "chaos" if it exists outside the clan of chaos.

Edited by Toullaty, 11 July 2013 - 09:20 PM.

[Boredoom]

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Is there a Creation attribute?

[Toullaty]

We haven't yet seen suras with the attribut "creation" or with the second jurisdiction of primeval gods. But even if the attribut "creation" could be weird for a suras, it would be strange if Bhrama is the only primeval god which the nastika don't use the jurisdiction.

[Mizura]

Actually, there are several Attributes marked as ?? in the blog profiles:

- The second source attribute of all the Primeval Gods. We suspect Visnu's second attribute is Time, but we don't have any other clues.

- Taraka's source attribute (we only have her Race attribute). This is probably Kali's second source attribute as well as Yuta's other inherited attribute.

- Ananta's source attribute.

- Shuri's source attribute.

- Shess' second inherited attribute. Right now we only know he's Wind (race attribute) + Light / ?? . This is significant because his inherited attribute may be Airavata's source attribute.

 

I suspect that they're hidden because there's some plot significance to them. For example, Yuta's second race attribute was only revealed after the encounter with Taraka. Haven't you noticed that all of the Sura with non-natural attributes so far are somewhat special? (Gandharva - Ressurection, and Taksaka - Destruction). Even though the Gods rank Gandharva pretty low, the me2day also said that it was a big headache to them to figure out any way to hurt him.

 

What's interesting about this chapter is that it seems to explain why they are called "source" attributes. Taksaka literally got part of Shiva's powers, though I guess the Natural forces were just lying around or something? ... wait, what if Gandharva's weakening is also partly due to Visnu's disappearance, not just the clearing of the fumes? (though, Shiva also disappeared, and it doesn't seem to have affected Taksaka, so... maybe not).

 

I just noticed that Currygom updated Taksaka's blog profile a bit! So it's confirmed, the only ones he allows to call him Tak are Vasuki, Airavata, Visnu and his lover (only one to date) (<- Ian basically). I really hope the story will explain how he became friends with Airavata. Maybe now that Shess is here...

 

Ah, there was a part that I didn't understand before, but I think I understand now. It says that he's not particularly favourable towards the Ananta clan, just Vasuki. Even when the first Ananta King died and many of the Ananta clan became victims, he took the fallen Vasuki to his nest, but didn't fight for the Ananta clan.

 

So, I guess that's what Sagara meant when she said that Vasuki is a coward who fled to preserve his life. Vasuki was probably overwhelmed too, but was taken to Tak's nest, and hid there instead of coming back to fight for his clan.

Edited by Mizura, 12 July 2013 - 02:32 AM.

[Toullaty]

What's interesting about this chapter is that it seems to explain why they are called "source" attributes. Taksaka literally got part of Shiva's powers, though I guess the Natural forces were just lying around or something? ... wait, what if Gandharva's weakening is also partly due to Visnu's disappearance, not just the clearing of the fumes? (though, Shiva also disappeared, and it doesn't seem to have affected Taksaka, so... maybe not).

We haven't yet seen Taksaka fight after the Cataclysm, but Sagara and Riagara seemed to judge than he was as strong as usual.

 

But the power of name seem have their own power for the gods, I think than this is the same for the nastikas, they uses the power of name and not a power drawn of another source. And Gandharva can, for example, dressing fully as a human, a power than Visnu can't (or doesn't want) try on another sura.

[Mizura]

Hmm. You raise an interesting point. We don't know how exactly the name and source system works.

 

Currygom did say that Nastika don't need to eat nor sleep and just "draw power from their environment," so the elements do serve as the source of their power somehow. However, we don't know how this interacts with the Names.

 

Are the attributes inherent to a Name? What about the race? As in, is the name Gandharva inherently tied to the Gandharva Race, Water Race Attribute and Resurrection Source Attribute? Or did the Names have inherent powers of some sort, but when the beings were formed, the source of power they first drew on then decided what attributes they would take on? (a bit like cloth soaking up colored dye. You are what you eat, something like that)

 

I used to think it's the former, but this chapter makes me wonder if it's a bit of both. I have trouble imagining Agni as anything other than the God of Fire, but perhaps it doesn't work the same way for Nastika (they do have 2 attributes after all, and are said to be structured differently). The way things were described this chapter, it's like the Nastika with the Destruction attribute (and other Primeval God attributes) got it by coincidence, because Shiva happened to be spewing some power too, so they happened to come across and draw from that source instead of some natural source. But because the Primeval Gods aren't sharing their powers on purpose, only a few ended with their attributes. (translation note: although I translated it as power "emitted by Shiva", all the online translators used the word "spit out." Basically it does seem to be a more direct form of releasing power)

 

It could explain why there aren't any other Gods with the Chaos attribute. If Kali prevented her powers from spewing out on purpose, then no Gods could draw from that source. At the same time, though, if names aren't inherently tied to an attribute, that could be why Kali could take the remaining Nastika names and inbue them with the Chaos attribute, thus creating the Taraka clan. I mean, I doubt All the names that Just happened to be defective were tied to the Chaos attribute. See?

 

That said, cripes, this chapter really got me thinking about how powerful the Primeval Gods should be. Taksaka has the power to destroy the Universe, but he just has part of Shiva's powers. The Primeval Gods have obviously done something to limit their powers. I wonder how it works.

 

Random thought of the day: Currygom mentioned on her me2day that Yaksha nearly killed Asura once. If he did decide to kill Asura though, then the current King of the Asura clan would be... Ravana. ACK.

Edited by Mizura, 12 July 2013 - 10:19 AM.

[Toullaty]

On another ways, even if the Primeval gods "share" their power with the nastikas like Taksaka and Gandharva.

The gods items like the earrings of Visnu haven't been destroy after the Cataclysm, showing that they have not completely disappeared, the link for the attribus exist likely yet if it works like it.

[themantarays]

Maybe that's why the Gods want the Nastika to die: they're drawing on their power.

[Marim]

Random thought of the day: Currygom mentioned on her me2day that Yaksha nearly killed Asura once. If he did decide to kill Asura though, then the current King of the Asura clan would be... Ravana. ACK.

 

Maybe that's why Yaksha held back?

[smthFishy]

Why the dislike for Ravana?

[Toullaty]

Because Ravana wanted to go kill Taksaka with a escort, and acts all great when she has the advantage but try to use someone stronger when she is in a bad position.

 

Otherwise, the comment at the end about Taksaka taking showers and doing the laundry, it makes me think this is perhaps the fate of Yuta now. He is with Leez, Ran and Asha from several weeks and Leez surely would notice if he never did that.

[Kaiein]

Hey Mizura, remember when you said that you wanted Ian's ability to swat bugs while you slept? After what's happened so far tonight, I want that ability, too.

[Mizura]

^ Totally! I totally had a mosquito infestation at home these past few months. I've been killing over a dozen of the buggers per month. And those are the ones I've managed to kill. ;_;

[Kaiein]

I had spiders scurrying across the floor and had a beetle buzz me while I was trying to sleep. Oh well, that's what I get when I leave for ten days to go to a convention - totally worth it.

[themantarays]

Ian finally gets fed! After all that, she only gets biscuits though. She really is turning into a homeless person.

... did you know that Google translates Nard as "Nerd"?

 

In other news, Currygom stated that she may be switching to an irregular "once every 2 weeks" release schedule. It's because she isn't paid for the novel releases, and she's having a hard time managing both the webtoon and the novel releases.

 

But she's not doing the webtoon now.... *sniff*

 

Anybody looking at this scene would just see a quarter eating biscuits while a Sura stares another Sura down next to her, and not have any idea what is happening.

[smthFishy]

Because Ravana wanted to go kill Taksaka with a escort, and acts all great when she has the advantage but try to use someone stronger when she is in a bad position.

I think this kind of competition among suras are fairly typical. Her methods are rather obtuse but not all that sneaky, not, like for instance, Vitra pretending to be Tak and trying to get rid of his future wife for whatever reason.

 

Otherwise, the comment at the end about Taksaka taking showers and doing the laundry, it makes me think this is perhaps the fate of Yuta now. He is with Leez, Ran and Asha from several weeks and Leez surely would notice if he never did that.

 

Taksaka's speciality: dry cleaning. 

[smthFishy]

Reading the latest summary, I was amused to think that Ian did end-up demolishing the Destruction Dragon... his pride and ego that is. 

[Dreamingflower]

^ Totally! I totally had a mosquito infestation at home these past few months. I've been killing over a dozen of the buggers per month. And those are the ones I've managed to kill. ;_;

Those are the worst. i once was up hours, trying to find that devilish being and kill it, but it kept hiding and buzzing when I tried to sleep. From now on if any insect disturbs my sleep and gets annoying to kill, I'll join my mom in the attic where she sleeps. Better to sleep in a smaller room with television than a buzzing room with those demon creatures! 

[Toullaty]

In the Finite, Kinnara was surprised than Taksaka defends the decision of Vritra for their race, but in the chapter 1.73, in a flashback, Vasuki wonders why he is so obsessed with hierarchy.

[battradio]

Its the male Mosquito that Buzzes trying to lure the females (Males don't bite ) . The Females are silent and bite , so when you hear the Buzzing you can sleep ! When it is quiet  , is when you need to worry  .

Those are the worst. i once was up hours, trying to find that devilish being and kill it, but it kept hiding and buzzing when I tried to sleep. From now on if any insect disturbs my sleep and gets annoying to kill, I'll join my mom in the attic where she sleeps. Better to sleep in a smaller room with television than a buzzing room with those demon creatures! 

I was standing on top the pilot house of a tow boat , in Houma Louisiana , at dusk and looking out across the swamp trying to decide how much longer to work , when I saw this squadron of mosquitos the size of humming birds coming my way  and called it a day .

Edited by battradio, 02 August 2013 - 01:41 AM.