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[Marim]

I knew it! As I said, Yuta's real name must have contained YUTA.

Edited by Marim, 06 January 2014 - 03:56 PM.

[BehindTheLighT]

I knew it! As I said, Yuta's real name must have contained YUTA.

 

wasn't it obvious?

[ApostBlack]

What I could make out of the conversation of Maruna and Yuta:

 

Yuta/Jatayu thinks that he can't make the choice he needs to (for growing up), i.e. choose between Maruna and Leez. Maruna confirms that it's his brother and invites him to go together to the Sura realm. There's no need to worry, there's someone there who can open a portal to it; he just needs to follow his orders, which are really easy, since it's just about killing (a) human/s. Yuta declines saying that this is no reason to kill humans, that they got seperated for a reason, the power of the Name and they should stay that way (although he was also looking for Maruna, but will be glad just to know he's alright). So he pleads to him no to kill any more humans. Maruna says that he wants to return to the happy days when they were together and urges him once more to come to the Sura realm with him, at which point a very sleepy, hardly able to stand on her legs Leez intervenes. She warns Yuta that it's not a half but a superior Sura and tells him to flee. Maruna is surprised: 'Yuta?'.

Edited by ApostBlack, 06 January 2014 - 04:05 PM.

[Mizura]

Damnit, don't stop there! Nuuh! T__T

Raws:

Spoiler

Y: [이 선택의 결과로 성장형이 결정된다는 걸 알아...
하지만 난 못해...
둘 중 하나를
포기하는 선택따위...
난 못해요.]

L: [부들부들]
으... 큭...
넌 왜 하필... 지금 나타나서...
...
...?!
(뭐야. 나 또 필름 끊긴 거야?)
?!
(이건 또 언제 가져온...)
윽...
(맙소사... 졸리기까지 해... 기력이 바닥난 건가?)

M: [너 혹시 Jatayu...
Jatayu냐?]

Y: [네. 형님. 형님 동생
Jatayu예요.
아직 겨우 2단계밖에 못 돼서
옛날이랑 달라진 게 별로 없죠?
형님은 못 보던 새 4단계까지
성장하신 것 같네요! 굉장해요!]

M: [...]

Y: [아무튼 우리 일단 빨리 자리를 떠요.
여기 있다간 또
인간들 눈에 띌 텐데
괜한 싸움이 나면 귀찮잖아요.
인간을 상대하는 건
형님 수준에 맞지 않으니
저 여자애는 그냥 놔두고
저랑 다른 데로 가요.
네? 형님...]

M: [...]

[...는 아니야. 나머지 둘 중 하나.
Jatayu? Kalavinka? 그게 본명일 것 같아?
...를 믿지 마. 넌 속고 있어.
지금 가루다의 아들은... 뿐.
만에 하나 실패하면... 은 없다.]

M: [...]

Y: [...? 형님?]

M: [... Sura realm로 가자, Jatayu.]

Y: [네?]

M: [대변동 직후 아버지께서 쓰러지셨어.
돌아가신 건 아니지만, 상태가 아주 안 좋으시다.]

Y: [아... 그... 그런 일이...
전 전혀 몰랐어요. 하지만 지금은...]

M: [괜찮아. Sura realm로 가는 길이라면,
열어줄 수 있는 자가 있어.
난 지금 그를 돕고 있으니 너도 같이 가자.
좀 더 도우면서 Kalavinka를 찾고, Sura realm로 다 같이 돌아가는 거야.]

Y: [저... 형님...
호... 혹시 그
돕는다는 일이...]

M: [아, 별 거 아니야.
그냥 위에서 지시하는 대로 인간들을 죽이면 돼.]

Y: [...!!]

M: [다들 Transcendental 한방에 우수수 죽어나가니까 임무 자체는 아주 쉬워.
비록 저 인간은 운좋게
살아 도망쳤지만,
그야 뭐 이제부터 죽이면 되니까...]

Y: [...
왜... 형님... 왜요.
이런 짓을 하면서까지 만날 필요는 없었잖아요.]

M: [...? 무슨 소리야?
이런 짓이라니.
우리가 만나기 위해서라면
인간들이 좀 죽는 것 따위 무슨 상관이지?
우린 Kalavinka를 찾고,
보금자리로 돌아가기만 하면 돼.
다른 건 생각하지 말자, Jatayu.]

Y: [아뇨. 현님.
우리가 모이는 게
우선이 되어선 안 돼요.
애초에 왜 헤어졌는데요?
이름의 힘 때문에, 모여 있으면 위험하다고 헤어진 거잖아요.
그런데 일부러
다시 모여서 돌아가다뇨...
그건 아니에요. 그래서는 안 돼요.]

M: [...]

Y: [저 역시 형님을 찾고 있었고, 이렇게 만나서 반갑지만,
같이 행동해선 안 된다고 생각해요.
Kalavinka와 셋이 모두 함께 모이는 건
더더욱 안 될 말이고요.
가끔 안부만 확인하면 되잖아요.
굳이 다 모여서 돌아갈 필요는 없어요.
그러니 형님도 인간들을 죽이는 일은 그만두고...]

M: [돌아가자, Jatayu.
난 예전의 그 행복했던 나날로
돌아가고 싶어.]

Y: [...
형님...]

L: 물러서, Yuta!
하... 함부로 접근하면 안 돼.
저놈은 Half가 아니라
상급수라니까.
(으... 미치겠네. 졸려서 서 있기도 힘들어.
어쩌다 이런 상태가 된 거지?)

L: 아무튼 빨리 도망쳐, Yuta!

Y: ...

M: [...?
'Yuta'라니?]

--
?: 대표님. 아까부터 궁금했는데...
그 무거워 보이는 망토는
대체 무슨 용도인가요?

L: 아. 이거요?
이건 얼마 전에 제 동생이
개조해달라고 보낸 거예요.
*2부16화

?: 이야. 대표님 동생 정말 부럽네요.
창조의 신관이 직접
개조해주는 아이템이라니...

?: 저 대표님, 문제가 생겼습니다.
원래 여기쯤부터는 혼돈의 결계 영향으로
별이 안 보여야 하는데...
여기서 별이 보인다는 건
결계에 문제가 생겼다는 뜻이거든요.

?: 뭐? 그럼 더 서둘러야겠네!
어차피 혼돈의 결계가 깨진 상태라면
여기서도 순간이동을 쓸 수 있다는 거지?

?: 아니. 그래도 혹시 모르니까
함부로 마법을 스면 안 돼.
만에 하나 혼돈의 결계 효과가 남아 있으면
계산방해로 죽을 수도 있으니까...

?: 그럼 도시에 문제가 생긴 걸 알면서도
여기서 걸어가자는 거야?
그게 아니라, 계산이 복잡하면서도
비교적 안전한 마법을 하나 써서
먼저 실험을 해 보고...

L: ...
저, 그 지팡이 잠시 빌려도 되겠습니까?

?: 네? 이거요?
대표님께서 쓰시기엔
격이 떨어지는 건데...

L: 괜찮습니다.
이걸로 싸우려는 건 아니니까요.
Hoti Indra Bhavati Brahma
계산에는 아무 문제가 없네요.
혼돈의 결계가 완전히 깨진 게 맞습니다.
마법 쓰셔도 돼요.

?: 어... 헐... 대, 대표님.

L: 마음에 안 드시면 다시 바꿔드려요?

?: 아, 아뇨!!!

L: 그럼 바로 신전 쪽으로 가죠.

?: 대표님! 지금 저쪽 하늘에...!

L: ... ?! 저건...
Kasak-ssi?

Summary:

 

Edit: Fixed thanks to Readingfish and Random-Webtoon-Fan. Go thank them!

http://vatoto.com/forums/topic/13462-kubera-season-2-discussion-raws-chapter-51-emmity-forward/page-109#entry1042329

http://vatoto.com/forums/topic/13462-kubera-season-2-discussion-raws-chapter-51-emmity-forward/page-110#entry1042558

 

Yuta knows that his decision will determine the outcome of his growth, but he can't bring himself to give up one of the two. He can't. 'Leez' is trembling all over, wondering why he showed up now. Suddenly, she reverts to her normal self, and is surprised that she had another blackout. Looking at the Sword of Re in her hand, she then wonders when she went to get it, then wonders why her vigor has been depleted.

Maruna lands in front of Yuta, and asks him if he's Jatayu. Yuta smiles and confirms to his Hyung-nim (big brother) that he's Jatayu. He's still only 2nd stage so he probably didn't change much from before. However, Hyung-nim grew to 4th-stage since! Awesome! Looking in Leez' direction, Yuta then suggests leaving that place as soon as possible, since they might get noticed by humans and get bothered by needless fights. Hyung-nim shouldn't go to the level of dealing with humans, so he should just leave that girl alone. Looking at Yuta though, Maruna thinks back on people talking: "... is not it. One of the other two." "Jatayu? Kalavinka? Do you really think that those are their real names?" "Don't trust ... You are being deceived." "...is Garuda's only son right now." "A single failure, and there will no longer be..." Maruna clenches his fists.

Yuta calls Maruna. Maruna then asks him to come to the Sura realm. He explains that Father succumbed right after the Cataclysm. He isn't dead, but he's in a very bad condition. Yuta notes that he had no idea. Maruna smiles and (omg he Can smile) says it's fine. They have someone to open a path to the Sura realm. Maruna is helping him now. They should look for Kalavinka then all go to the Sura realm together. Yuta looks surprised, then asks if perhaps, the help involves... Maruna says that it isn't a big deal. They just have to follow instructions and kill some humans. Yuta is shocked. Looking sideways, Maruna continues that it's been a very easy task, because everyone died in one shot from his transcendentals. Although that human was lucky and escaped alive, he can kill her now so... the shocked Yuta clutches his chest, asking him why, and saying that they did not have to do such things to meet again. Confused, Maruna asks what he means. In order to meet up, so what if a few humans die? They'll look for Kalavinka, then return to the nest. Jatayu shouldn't think of anything else. Still clutching his chest, Yuta notes that their reunion should not be a priority. Otherwise, why did they have to break up? Because of the Power of the Name, it would have been dangerous for them to be together, so they were separated. But if they got back together on purpose... no, it wasn't right. Yuta thinks of their goodbye scene. Maruna doesn't respond. Yuta continues that he was also looking for Hyung-nim, and it was nice to meet him, but he thinks they shouldn't act like this. They certainly shouldn't get back together with Kalavinka (?). They should only greet one another occasionally, not bother getting back together. So, Hyung-nim should stop killing humans. However, Maruna tells him, let's go back. Smiling, he says he wants to go back to the happy days from before (holy cow he really Does know how to smile, doesn't he get cramps from never smiling?).

At that moment Leez tells Yuta to stand back. He shouldn't approach carelessly. That person isn't a Half, but a Superior Sura. She stands protectively in front of him, then thinks to herself that she's so sleepy that it's hard to stand. How did she become like this? She tells Yuta to run away quickly, leaving Yuta speechless (well, moreso than usual). Maruna is just confused by the fact she called him 'Yuta'.

Outside of Kalibloom, a person asks the representative-nim about the purpose of the heavy-looking cloak. Lutz explains that his brother sent it to him to have it modified. The girl replies that she envies the representative-nim's brother, since he can get items modified directly by the Priest of Creation. A man notes that there's trouble. From there on, they shouldn't be able to see the stars because of the influence of the Chaos barrier. Since the stars are visible, there must be a problem with the barrier. The girl notes that they'd better hurry then. If the barrier of Chaos is broken anyway, should they teleport again? The man doesn't want to risk it, since the Chaos barrier interferes with calculations, so they may die, so... the girl still objects that they shouldn't be walking if there's a problem with the city. Since the calculations are complex, they could first experiment with a relatively safe spell... Hearing that, Lutz asks to borrow the girl's staff for a while. The girl is surprised, since it's just going to fall apart, but Lutz says it's fine, since he isn't going to fight with it. He casts Hoti Indra Bhavati Brahma, then notes that there are no problems with the calculations. The barrier of Chaos is completely broken. The others watch, surprised, as the staff changes (into a much cooler xD) shape. The girl starts stuttering, and Lutz asks her if he should change it back if she doesn't like it, which she quickly denies. Lutz then says they should head straight for the Temple. At that point, someone shouts to look at the sky. Lutz looks up, and is surprised to see Kasak (about time! He seems to be alone, drats).

---
D'aww, Leez wanted to protect Yuta to let him escape. Yuta didn't have the courage to just tell Maruna that Leez is his friend and that he should leave her alone. Bleah. >_>

So, um, what do we call Yuta from now on? Just Yuta? Jatayu? Jatayuta? Jatayutaja? Man, I'm so used to Yuta, or maybe I just like it more because it's shorter to type. Worst is, if I got that part right, this may Also be a fake name. >_>;

Oh by the way, Maruna did say he had to kill "humans" in plural (the 들 after 인간 is used for plural). It seems to further support the theory that perhaps, there are multiple targets.

RWF, when you have time, please look over Maruna's little bits of sentences again. ;_; It seems to imply that there's something going on with at least one of the siblings, which probably ties in to what Ravana mentioned to Vinata at the end of the finite (about one of the children being the "real" deal or something like that).

Edited by Mizura, 07 January 2014 - 02:30 AM.

[Grincourt]

Man I'm really starting to dislike Yuta, he's such a coward ! I still hate his brother.......

Poor Leez, I hope she becomes happy somehow

[Toullaty]

The Fake!Leez seem know a little on Yuta (or he can see through Leez) if he knew that it was possible that he shows.

 

Man I'm really starting to dislike Yuta, he's such a coward ! I still hate his brother.......

Why ? Because he doesn't want fight Leez or his brother and that his choice will mark his life.

It is still an improvement, there is some chapters, to avoid choosing, he avoided both while there, he tried to concile the two together..

Edited by Toullaty, 06 January 2014 - 04:32 PM.

[Mizura]

@Nyanmaru Kamen: Don't forget, Yuta's choice here will determine his entire future, including his future form. I'm miffed that he didn't openly tell his brother that Leez is his friend, but I suspect that part of the reason is that he knows that more is going on (don't forget he also gathered some information from Taraka and from Asha, and he may have confirmed what's truly going on when Maruna told him that he was killing a bunch of humans).

Also, Yuta may be recognizing some prophecy unfolding now, perhaps the fact that things would go bad if the siblings meet up again? D: He probably didn't think of the consequences of meeting up with his siblings before, but by now he can probably tell that it really was a bad idea after all. This probably makes him really nervous, because saying the wrong thing may result in him losing Maruna or Leez, so for now, he just hopes to separate the two and stall for time.

Still, I didn't want things to end here, now I have to wait another week. Waaah! T__T

Edited by Mizura, 06 January 2014 - 04:36 PM.

[Marim]

I wonder why Fake Leez was so displeased with Yuta showing up? I don't think it's only because he interfered.

[Rafa El]

Kasak up, so third form next chapter unless trolling.
Maruna is solid, he cares for his family and friends.
About Yuta indecisiveness, remember second form is equivalent to 10 years old or so. It's not an adult making a choice, it's a choice making him an adult/teen.

[Mizura]

@Marim: Maybe because she was actually close to killing Maruna (or at least injuring him) before Yuta undid the transcendental?

Edited by Mizura, 06 January 2014 - 04:40 PM.

[smthFishy]

I knew it! As I said, Yuta's real name must have contained YUTA.

Just like how Tobi's real name was (O)bito, Yuta's real name is (Ja)tayu, Geniuses must think alike!

 Looking at Yuta though, Maruna is thinking: ... is not. One of the other two. Jatayu? Kalavinka? Is that the real name (not sure about this part)? ... doesn't believe. He's been lied to. So the children of Garuda... as well. A single failure... there isn't. (broken sentences, no idea what they mean D: Help!) Maruna clenches his fists.
 

I borrowed your raws and did some Google manipulations:

 

"No... there are two others. Jatayu? Kalavinka? Are those real names? Please don't think like that... You have been lied to. You're the only son of Garuda. But in the case of a failure... no, this can't be."

 

I think Maruna thinks that his position as the eldest might have been led him to think that he would become king of the Garuda clan, but that might not be the case. And he is especially sensitive towards the fact that Jatayu seems to have a different name. 

 

Ah... power of the name, pitting brothers at war since time immemorial...

Edited by 동사서독, 06 January 2014 - 05:11 PM.

[BehindTheLighT]

Just like how Tobi's real name was (O)bito, Yuta's real name is (Ja)tayu, Geniuses must think alike!

 

 

kishi just forgot the genius part...

[Grincourt]

@Nyanmaru Kamen: Don't forget, Yuta's choice here will determine his entire future, including his future form. I'm miffed that he didn't openly tell his brother that Leez is his friend, but I suspect that part of the reason is that he knows that more is going on (don't forget he also gathered some information from Taraka and from Asha, and he may have confirmed what's truly going on when Maruna told him that he was killing a bunch of humans).Also, Yuta may be recognizing some prophecy unfolding now, perhaps the fact that things would go bad if the siblings meet up again? D: He probably didn't think of the consequences of meeting up with his siblings before, but by now he can probably tell that it really was a bad idea after all. This probably makes him really nervous, because saying the wrong thing may result in him losing Maruna or Leez, so for now, he just hopes to separate the two and stall for time.Still, I didn't want things to end here, now I have to wait another week. Waaah! T__T

I get that it will determine his future, but I hate indecisive people, like first he was cowering in fear over Gandal. Then he acted like he wanted to be the one who kills Leez, then he can't decide who's team he's on. It's really annoying.

The Fake!Leez seem know a little on Yuta (or he can see through Leez) if he knew that it was possible that he shows.


Why ? Because he doesn't want fight Leez or his brother and that his choice will mark his life.
It is still an improvement, there is some chapters, to avoid choosing, he avoided both while there, he tried to concile the two together..

I never said he had to fight either, but he needs to pick a side and go with it. Not avoid a situation when it's get tough.

Edited by Nyanmaru Kamen, 06 January 2014 - 05:40 PM.

[Euodiachloris]

I get that it will determine his future, but I hate indecisive people, like first he was cowering in fear over Gandal. Then he acted like he wanted to be ex one who kills Leez, then he can't decode who's team he's on. It's really annoying.

Uh... he's been indecisive for all of a few hours. In just one day.  Show me the equivalent of a human 10 or 11 year old that doesn't dither a bit about some important things, and I'll show you a liar.

 

For heaven's sake: it took me three days to settle on a new school at 12.

Edited by Euodiachloris, 06 January 2014 - 05:34 PM.

[Grincourt]

Uh... he's been indecisive for all of a few hours. In just one day. Show me the equivalent of a human 10 or 11 year old that doesn't dither a bit about some important things, and I'll show you a liar.

For heaven's sake: it took me three days to settle on a new school at 12.

Lol did you settling at a new school have lives on the line ? I doubt it unless you went to kpa. (Kill people academy)

Bad comparison

And Yuta's mind is far above an 11 or 12 yo human

Edited by Nyanmaru Kamen, 06 January 2014 - 05:38 PM.

[Kreiri]

Man I'm really starting to dislike Yuta, he's such a coward ! I still hate his brother.......

 

Have you ever had to choose between lives of your family and your friends?

[BehindTheLighT]

 like first he was cowering in fear over Gandal.

 

So? surely he is not the first who cowers in fear before him. Nor the last. I can't wait for the day he will have back a purpose and his true power XD

Have you ever had to choose between lives of your family and your friends?

 

this, it is already a lot that he didn't accept maruna offer

[Grincourt]

Have you ever had to choose between lives of your family and your friends?

Hmmm, well there was this one time at band camp...........

How about you buddy ?

So? surely he is not the first who cowers in fear before him. Nor the last. I can't wait for the day he will have back a purpose and his true power XD

this, it is already a lot that he didn't accept maruna offer

It's nothing wrong with being afraid of someone stronger than you, it's only natural. But you can't then turn around and be like "you can't die by anyone else's hand but mine " to someone weaker than you

Edited by Nyanmaru Kamen, 06 January 2014 - 05:43 PM.

[Tatiyanna]

It would be less believable if Yuta went in there with the full intention of killing one of them, without first trying to come up with a more peaceful alternative, after all he cares for them both and doesn't want either of them to die, in such a situation he's made the right choice.

Edited by Tatiyanna, 06 January 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[Grincourt]

You guys seem to think I meant he should just kill one of them and get it over with. Maybe it's the way I typed it but that's not what I meant .

I meant that he should hurry up and make a choice because like Gandharva said, you can't have it all. So Yuta or whatever his name is needed to pick his side before he loses it all.