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Hio, does anyone on Batoto own a Vocaloid?

Love vocaloids?

Mine is without a doubt Len and Rin Kagamine.

What's your favourite vocaloid songs?

Are there any other artificial singers out there that are as good?

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Stuff the kgmns. Gumi is the one and only Vocaloid for me :D

and some of the vocaloid3 ones xD

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What are you saying to Gakupo sama?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atjfmVUJvqU

Oliver is good. Good boy, you Oliver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRru6z4HJSM

Meanwhile, have you ever heard Len's deep voice? xD It's cool

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I don't "own" any, but I do listen to them on Youtube a lot. I like Miku, Len/Ren, Gumi, and Luka.

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Who called me? =_=

Edit: Yeah, I could say that I'm a fan :D

Edited by powha, 19 March 2012 - 05:26 PM.


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I haven't heard them before Riuna told me. And I am still wondering what are they! Please tell me :)

btw good sig Powha

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@powha

Posted Image Heh~~ It's Vocaloid sama!

@Leo

Posted Image Uncle Leo, Vocaloids are programs of recorded voices and linguistic syntex mainly in Japanese and a few in English.

Basically you can type words, add the music notes and music score in and the program will sing for you.
For example, Gakupo was voiced by Gackt sama.

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On the side note, this isn't artificial but the language is and its awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1GtMiKXE_E

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@ Leonardo:
For example we can throw in this song.(I think its most known one anyway): :P
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From a live concert 2 years ago.

Like Hellion explained, they are basicly a software where you put in the lyrics and background music (and ofc edit them). While it is synthisized voice, it is from a bank of real voices, provided by various voice actors/singers. What is great about vocaloids is that anyone can become an composer and express himself. That brings you huge variety of songs, styles and genres.
Being artificial, people often think its unable to "sing with emotion", but that is not true. Infact, sometimes the voice is the reason that brings up all the emotions in you.

Also, vocaloid commuinty on Nico Nico Douga (like Japanese Youtube) consists of other stuff too, not just songs. To make it easier to understand and explain, just watch this video:
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Video explanation:
Someone makes a vocaloid (in this case Miku) song and uploads it. Then various other people record music, draw video art, make videos, make MMD(MikuMuikuDance) dances, make covers of the song, create a dance coreography and dance videos. See the beauty of it? :)

(Also, Miku might be singing on the opening of Olympic Games 2012 in London. Lets hope she gets picked!!)

Anyway, i'll end this long post here. I hope it was easy to understand. :P

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Thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom with me :D

i am really glad to learn about it. But i saw some singer who cried from his/her feelings. This can make a sense for live singing
But Vocaloids are a different taste of music i think. So we cannot compare them :D

I'll look forward to new vocaloid updates in here and i'll follow it. In time I think i can learn about them more :D

Edited by Leonardo, 20 March 2012 - 03:27 AM.

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We so want to see holographic Miku / Kagamine / Luka concert! ; ^ ;

Where's mah Gakupo and Kaito tho? They never had the opportunity to holo.

Thanks a lot for sharig your wisdom with me :D

i am really glad to learn about it. But i saw some singer who cried from his/her feelings. This can make a sense of live singing but Vocaloids are a different taste of music i think. So we cannot compare them :D

I'll look forward to new vocaloid updates in here and i'll follow it. In time I thin i can learn about them more :D



@Uncle Leo

We've cried listening to Vocaloid! They really give emotions!
After this video is Proof of Life, which is the second part of the song by his sister.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdD9aq4u2Nk&list=PL22D14377141AC7AE&index=4&feature=plpp_video

Edited by Hellion Twins, 20 March 2012 - 03:37 AM.

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Have you seen Miku's 39th Giving Day Concert? I think another one happened in the US already.

Luka all the way, JBF

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I want Miku's concert in Singapore.

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Just torrented the video =D No money to fly to Japan and watch

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You haven't seen the holographiccccss!

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I can see the 3-d dancing Miku and the raving crowd!!!

Random Fact,

Megumi Nakajima, who provides the voice for Gumi, also voiced Ranka Lee from Macross frontier and Ranka is said to have influenced Gumi's image

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(Also, Miku might be singing on the opening of Olympic Games 2012 in London. Lets hope she gets picked!!)


REALLY!? That's, that's- *nerdgasm*

*clears throat* anyways, my favorite vocaloid is Yuzuki Yukari, though it hard to say favorites since they are all so fantastic. If I had to restrict my favorites to Crypton's releases, I'd go with either Rin or Luka, depending on my mood. My favorite composer would be yuyoyuppe hands down, but there are many other great composers out there, such as Ryo, Deco*27, wowaka, etc.
My favorite songs would include Rolling Girl (wowaka), Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu (Bousou-P), When the First Love Ends (Ryo/Supercell), Leia (Yuyoyuppe), Hope (same), Palette (same), Torinoko City (40meter-P)... (the list goes on and on)
*tries to regain composure* Moving on, I don't own any vocaloids, nor do I think anyone other than Yamaha (Vocaloid) has a working artificial singing program.

Has anyone else considered exactly how much more difficult it is to make an artificial voice program that speaks English instead of Japanese? For singing the difference is smaller, but speaking is actually much harder to simulate because of the many slight changes of pitch, tone, stress, enunciation, etc. The Japanese language has much less changes, though. Food for thought.
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REALLY!? That's, that's- *nerdgasm*
Has anyone else considered exactly how much more difficult it is to make an artificial voice program that speaks English instead of Japanese? For singing the difference is smaller, but speaking is actually much harder to simulate because of the many slight changes of pitch, tone, stress, enunciation, etc. The Japanese language has much less changes, though. Food for thought.


There were some that has been fanmade. Can't remember what they are called.

They released notes on their English vocaloid development and as far as I am aware of, syntax and language flow is difficult for English, which is a remixed language type rather than characterised. It's harder because the words mix and match syllables and pronunciations whereas in Asian character languages, all you have to care about is tone and pronunciation for each word. Easier to computerize.

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There were some that has been fanmade. Can't remember what they are called.


UTAU's? Those seemed to have slipped my mind, but I believe they are still made using the Vocaloid software, so are still considered Vocaloids.
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I love the stories behind Len and Rin's songs.... sad but still! xD
But I'd love to see one of their shows... Seems like an awesome event to attend... Definitely on my to-do list :D

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UTAU's? Those seemed to have slipped my mind, but I believe they are still made using the Vocaloid software, so are still considered Vocaloids.


They are still but they recorded other voices or? I'm only familiar with Len's UTAU.

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