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[battradio]

Kubera has been my favorite for over 3 1/2 years now , others  manga have came and gone , some have come to a finishing point but the one i wait for every week is Currygoms kubera .

Edited by battradio, 27 June 2015 - 01:58 AM.

[Mizura]

For me it is. I won't claim it's the best or anything, but the story, characters and worldbuilding is the one that has me most immersed in it. I occasionally find other manga that I really really like, but they'd never reach that level where I want to obsessively analyze every little thing.

I used to feel this way with Naruto, but it turned out that me (and a big chunk of the rest of the fandom) vastly overrated Kishimoto's writing skills. Kishi disappointed. But Currygom surpasses my expectations. She can hide the answer out in plain sight and still an entire fandom could not find it, she writes a story that is both character-driven and plot-driven (because the chracters are the plot) but manages to go exactly where she wants without forcing the chracters into OOC moments (quite the contrary, it is their very personalities thay lead exactly to those outcomes), and she has a worldbuilding which, while far from being the most detailed, has very original dynamics and cleverly institutionalizes concepts that are usually used as haxx devices in other series (immortality, clairvoyance etc).

Kubera is something of a niche series for someone who likes to obsessively nitpick everything and enjoy her particular brand of flawed characters and drama, but that niche is perfect for me.

Edited by Mizura, 27 June 2015 - 02:07 AM.

[Kitty1826x]

My simple answer is No. 

 

My more complex answer is - 

No, because it's still ongoing. As much as I would hate it, Kubera COULD have a terrible ending that would ruin the whole entire series for me. I would end up feeling that it was a complete waste of my time, and I would curse Currygom for the rest of my life ... or for a few years, heh. 

I highly doubt that there would be a terrible ending, as those tend to be the ones that are rushed and/or forced. Since Currygom has this all planned out, and just filling in the tiny fillers here and there, I'll probably get a enough ending ... 

Would it be one that I like, I'm not sure ... but even if it wasn't one that I didn't like I would still probably give it a high rating. 

 

Kubera is the manhwa I am currently obsessed with I love Mondays because of Kubera. (Well that's not the only reason, but it's the cherry on top). I talk about Kubera a lot to other people, and always trying to get them to read it.

I generally don't read ongoing series, because I hate waiting, or I get bored and tired of it so I would temporarily drop it until it's done. Although I have temporarily dropped Kubera once ... (It was around the frozen tears arc) I did pick it back up again, and I don't have any thoughts of temporarily dropping it again ... hopefully ... 

 

This will probably be one of top favorites depending on the ending, but I'm unsure if it would be my absolute favorite.

[Mizura]

^ That reminds me of something else: Kubera is my favorite series to read weekly. For most other series, I'd probably be happier to read them in one go, but Kubera is worth reading back in the meantime to come up with all sorts of theories, and then you get to compare them to what gets revealed later on.

 

Not everybody agrees of course.

[salvatore]

Nope! i think, it's the 2nd though, behind Tower of God.

[BehindTheLighT]

It is, with tog as second.

[Nualie]

It's my favorite series... But to be honest I don't know why exactly. The community is a big part of it  though.

 

In any case, it's the first that I haven't become bored of in a whole year. 

[Mizura]

It's a pity that there isn't an option for "It's one of my favourites."

[battradio]

It was made to see what percentage , of our little family   of friends here found Kubera to be their  very favorite . It took me 3 days to get this poll posted , two power failures happened just as it was to  posted .

 

At different times Inuyosha and Bleach have been my favorites , Bleach's content has kind of faded from my interest , i have never really got into TOG , i liked Ability till it went on hiatus and never came back , i read Girls of the wilds but not a favorite .

 

Yamada-kun and the seven witches  is number two or three , UQ holder is up there over at Crunchy Roll 

Edited by battradio, 27 June 2015 - 01:12 PM.

[Chi-chan]

It's my most favorite, this is the first story that has a complex plot which I stick to until the latest chapter is released. Kubera isn't really my cup of tea, I would like stories to be simple, a little dramatic, but overall cute, but this one.. it opened my eyes to see and think out of the box, it was seriously confusing, but it's the romance that made me stick to this(yeah, I'm a sucker for romance.), I focused on the romance first, until I saw this community and starts to understand the story more. I've love this story for over a year now, and I keep telling my friends and random people to read this, it comes to the point where I keep squealing over Yuta a hundred times and my friends misunderstood me for having a relationship, a hardcore fangirl? That's just who I am, and I'm kinda proud of it XD(although I admit I should lessen this inner fangirl of mine, because sometimes it's ruining my sanity lol)
I've never read ToG yet, i kinda dropped it around chapter 6 because it was quite confusing that Baam was already fighting with a creature in the first chapters without him knowing the reason why he should fight it, but I know that it has an awesome storyline maybe it's just not my time to read it now. But overall, Kubera is my top list for all that 2k mangas I've read, and I kinda agree with Kitty that my love for Kubera might change depending on the finale of the story, but I hope currygom can pull it off

[Tierra]

Yes, favorite.


No matter how the story ends.

[Sangios]

Right now? Definitely yes. If it wasn't, I wouldn't only be using Kubera panels for my avvys. Also, Mondays used to be the worst day of the week, and now they're the days I look forward to.

 

ToG and Kubera should be equal for me, and that might be the case again if SIU can keep his stuff together like he has it right now.

[Pandorally]

As of now, yes Kubera is definately my favorite. The mastery is in the details. The little foreshadowings. The angst. The Romance. 

And I just love how it's not cliché. 

 

For example: 

In normal Manga/Manwha/etc.

Leez would be the kind and pure hearted girl who will bring light to other characters. Like Orihime, Tohru,  

Asha would change to the good side after some heart warming moments after the main cast confronted her with her dark/tragic past.

Yuta will stop eating her face with the power of love.

Leez will discover God Kubera's betrayal and still forgive him. 

Sagara will play the typical anti-hero/jealous bitch who will eventually die or change side.

Maruna will be the Aloof Big Bro who would realize his wrongs and dedicate the rest of his life saving humans.

Shakuntala is still alive. Gandharva is happy.

 

In Kubera:

Shakuntala is dead. 

Asha is a serial killer.

Yuta can not control his instincts.

Maruna is still a dick to humans.

Sagara is not a hypocrite.

Leez is not stupid nor forgiving.

 

 

A lot of time there are circumstances in  stories created out of convinience. Like, the hero have missing/dissapeared/gone parents so he/she is free to go on an adventure (Harry Potter/Pokemon/Inu Yasha etc.), Main character miss school 'cause they have to fight Big Bad . Major people meet in random place because destiny said so.

 

While in Kubera, circumstances or fated meeting is actually planned by chessmasters and plot relevant. Knowledge/school/textbooks are actually important. Big Bad actually have a point. Can you actually blame Maruna for comparing humans as ants when he is basically immortal and super-powerful. Have we actually considered the feelings of the ant we squished? Yuta ate Jatayu. He can not control his hunger. Can you blame him for feeding? Can you blame Samphati for hating him? Asha might be a genius, but she's only 20 for God sake. What can a little girl do against God and Suras? Rather than be weak and dead, she'd rather make a difference by staying alive and have her revenge even though innocent people might die. And how much does 100 lives weights when there are millions and billions of lives at stake? Saha can easily play the dictator role. But he also have a point. Killing people for the sake of power is not a morally correct action, no matter what the reasons behind such acts. Kings who sacrifice his people for ideals (Religion/Justice/Love) are not not thinking about the well-being of its people.

 

Anyhoo, I think the whole point of Kubera is that it teaches the actual reasons behind a war. Good people with good reasons fight against good people with good reasons. Instead of the cliched Good vs Evil. 

[dondara]

My current favorites are:

 

1- One Piece

2- Kubera

3- Tokyo Ghoul Series

4- TOG

 

One Piece because it's the first anime/manga I started and I'll probably always think it's the best. Plenty of arguments in favor of it being #1 without being biased.

 

Kubera took a while before I finally considered it superior to TOG (in my list). It's easily #1 if it wasn't for probably OP.

 

TG is simply spectacular. The amount of work, parallels, foreshadowing that the author places into his production is just as amazing as Oda and Currygom.

 

TOG was the first manhwa I read and S1 was a mindfuck. It's world-building is amazing and I definitely got immersed into its production. If it weren't for SIU dropping the ball a bit with the direction he took during S2, it would probably be above Kubera.

 

* I probably won't say for sure which I like better until both Kubera and TOG are finished. TOG possibly has more potential IMO, but Kubera has been consistently amazing with its delivery and until now I have yet to read a manhwa/manga with the same qualities as Kubera. It's simply unparalleled in its category (genre,etc). This probably has to due with the fact that Currygom prepared it as a novel beforehand. When you compare two writers like Curry and SIU... SIU improvises: sometimes writes top tier material, other times he fails. While Curry is practically always top tier.

 

5- Possibly The Breaker Series?

 

 

*** Note: I've probably read Kubera from start to finish ~5-7+ times? (except for recent chapters), TOG ~5+ (except for recent chapters), Tokyo Ghoul ~4+ times Tokyo Ghoul RE 2. The Breaker 2-4 times.

 

One thing I just remembered. I love seeing both sides of the conflict. In Kubera we see that the "enemies" of the protagonist (Leez) are protagonists themselves. Therefore, we see all the angles and how they combine into a very interesting conflict. This reminds me that TG is another one of my favorites that incorporates this concept. Its has become more than tiring and cliched the concept of 'evil' and fighting the 'bad guys'. These two discard this and it's much more interesting to be vague about who's right or wrong.

[OneLastSpock]

Kubera all the way. One of my friends pulled my into the world of Manga/Manhwa about two, two and a half years ago now, I think. He first had me read ToG, and I loved the first season. He then told me that if I liked it, I would love Kubera. So I started it. I liked both stories; both read with a hint of mystery, plots and chessmasters-in-hiding galore, a main character developing while everyone around them was fully/mostly formed. Hints of a dark past, promises of a dark present and darker future, with clues to allow you to try to piece it all together. I caught all the way up on both stories, and then started searching around for more, while eagerly awaiting the newest chapter of both ToG and Kubera. But none of the others held my attention quite like them; maybe it was the characters not being as realistic to me, or that the plot seemed to obvious/cliche, or something else, but none of them beat out Kubera and ToG as my favorites. Maybe those two were special just because they "were my firsts".

But then something changed with ToG, gradual at first. I only noticed it later, but ToG's second season largely failed to deliver on its promise of meaningful darkness, of plots and wondering who the true villain was, which was the right path. It became much more cliche, and many of the "clues" SIU had given us seemed to be left by the wayside. (In spoiler because I talk about ToG S2, in case someone hasn't read it).

Spoiler

We were given a obvious villain, FUG, who was pulling the strings from the background, with not much reason to sympathize with them except that individual members had been taken advantage of by the Ten Families. Even then, it started off strong, with The Untrustworthy Room arc being the last where one truly questioned who was aligned with whom, where the reader had to look at all the clues to figure out the plots, motives, and goals of each character. The next arcs had no real mystery and uncertainty to them, and Zagaena's flower test was largely an excuse to make Viole/Baam look cool and show how powerful Urek is. The Workshop Battle only furthered this, with no real sense of mystery regarding loyalties, and plots being explained as they were occurring, instead of after.

Meanwhile, the one character I hated in Kubera, Sagara (not so much anymore), became more and more human to me, and the plots kept getting thicker; one set of clues would come together, only to reveal more mysteries and clues that I had missed earlier. I found myself looking more and more forward to reading Kubera each week, and have let ToG slide by the wayside, to catch up for some closure every two months or so. I have come to realize that one of my favorite parts of Kubera is summed up in the Season 2 prologue: "This is a war with no villains, only victims... And a story where someone, in the end, will have to cry."

Maybe I'm just rambling at this point (Who's really interested in my personal story anyway?), but Kubera has yet to disappoint me in either its mystery, characters, or plot. Here's hoping it continues that way.

[ironmonk]

Kubera is currently my favorite. I kind of dropped ToG at the beginning of the whole train arc. Why did I do that? I don't know. What I really like about Kubera is there isn't really any good or evil. I also really like the primeval gods (or at least Brahma's) view of things. They created the sura, gods, and humans. So why should they act in favor of one over the others. Like Brahma's barrier system. It doesn't outright favor humans, but it gives them a fighting chance with out it being an absolute defense against sura.

[flowsthead]

Probably favorite manhwa at the moment. It used to be TOG, but the second season has been a disappointment. The other good manhwa are either fun but somewhat simple (The God of High School, Black Haze) or just too short yet to say for certain (DIce, Witch Hunt).

 

But manga? Absolutely not. Kubera is really great for what it is, but I've never really fallen in love with it the way I have with say Beck or Solanin or Honey and Clover. It's an interesting character piece, well plotted and decently cerebral, but emotionally I often find it somewhat lacking. Maybe with more time or reading the whole thing from the beginning, it might reach a stage where I can be gutted by certain scenes. But so far it hasn't happened.

[themantarays]

My top 3:

 

1) Tokyo Ghoul series

2) Kubera

3) Tower of God

 

I'm surprised more people here don't like Tokyo Ghoul. It's been my new favorite for a number of months now. But only by a slim margin over Kubera.

 

Tower of God, I'm still willing to put it up there with those two if SIU continues his little revival streak, but at some point it lost that sense of arcing cohesiveness and epicness that made it great.

 

For the longest time, I put Black Lagoon up there with Kubera and ToG as the ones which constantly cycled between my favorites, but wow it's been so long since I've read a new chapter. >.<

 

If anyone wants to talk further about Kubera vs other comics, you can always revive this thread: https://vatoto.com/forums/topic/15392-how-kubera-compares-to-other-comics/

[LovelyLuvLuv]

I'd say my top 3 ongoing series are :

Noragami, Berserk, Kubera

 

In no particular order.  Also have a collection of other random things i like/think are promising but haven't solidified yet. Used to like tower of god but got tired of waiting for ha yuri to show up (best girl).

[smtmissin]

My passion for anime/manga has diminished over the years. The only current series I like enough to follow *faithfully* that are released often enough: Kubera, Black Haze, Tenkuu Shinpan

The only current series that I like but are not released often enough (or not being scanlated at all): Hyakkiyakou Shou (my favorite), Natsume Yuujinchou (maybe).

I like Kubera (a lot) but I don't know if "favorite" is the word though. Sometimes the new chapters bore me.

Edited by smtmissin, 02 July 2015 - 01:21 PM.