Sweet Potato
hah, we accually got a double spread!
Oh yeah, the double page was great..........can't believe the author, not letting Meguru choke that jerk out 
Oh well, going to the judge's decision. Yeah, maybe a little anticlimactic, but let's be serious here........this isn't shounen, so it's probably a much more realistic ending. That guy was a monster, Meguru just hanging with him was huge enough already.
Sweet Potato
I doubt he would have been able to choke him out in 10 secounds anyway.
True, I thought the same thing when the 10 second alert came. That was really only enough time for there to maybe be a one-hit type KO to prevent it from reaching the time limit.
Lord of Longcats
Sweet Potato
Yes I knew that was gonna happend 2 weeks ago, still awesome tho.
Yup, definitely awesome. So, anybody but me figure those three serious-faced judges probably had their decisions swayed a little bit by all the showboating that guy did? Not that we'll probably ever know or anything, but stuff like that guy was doing isn't always considered cool by everybody. I'd imagine a lot of the people there were glad to see that guy lose........and not just because of the underdog thing.
Meguru.......he just can't help but have his "creepy" moments in front of the girls
Lord of Longcats
I dunno realy about the judges, since I always find the point system a bit confusing. But yea realy glad Meguru won.
Poor gurl, look so happy, and then meets that wierd face haha.
Potato Sprout
Yup, definitely awesome. So, anybody but me figure those three serious-faced judges probably had their decisions swayed a little bit by all the showboating that guy did?
It is certainly possible, but one of the nice things about Shooto as a fighting organization is that the judging and scoring are actually really clear cut and well defined.
By tallying "significant hits", ie a hit that elicits a physical reaction, and any downs received from striking, the striking score can almost be calculated. The grappling score is a straight tally based on the calls from the center judge during the match.
If a score turns up equal in a tournament, then they decide by flags (essential voting) which is a lot more subjective. If the score had been tied, I think Meguru would have been given the win for being the better sportsman. I know I would have raised the flag for Meguru without hesitation.
Sweet Potato
Spoiler
Oooh, very interesting stuff, thanks a lot. That does seem pretty well laid out.........though I still think there's probably some room for fudging
What can I say, I think being truly, completely impartial..........yeah, I believe a lot more people think they are than actually are. Being influenced (by a negative impression of poor sportsmanship, like I was referring to) even if it's just at a subconscious level........yeah, that's something I think is really tough to totally rule out of one's judgement. It's just a part of human nature I think.
Kind of like you mentioned, "significant" hits.........well, yeah. There's room there for being subjective, even if they didn't realize they were favoring the guy who wasn't acting like a jerk and showing up the whole event
Edited by svines85, 27 June 2014 - 04:02 AM.
Sweet Potato
I like how the old dude get so short fights. AH well, not rly sad over it, I rather see more meguru anyway.
Kind of anticlimactic after one of Meguru's marathon battles, eh?
Well, I think we can be fairly sure that their finals match won't be that way, I'm expecting that one to get pretty ugly >_<
Potato Sprout
I like how the old dude get so short fights. AH well, not rly sad over it, I rather see more meguru anyway.
It highlights the amount of effort required by a young underdog to get to the finals versus a crafty veteran.
Meguru spends half of his fights figuring out what he is a) doing wrong or 
should be doing, so long fights are a given.
Muroi goes in with a battle plan he made and initiates his plan early. I would be disappointed if they didn't go quickly.
I am curious how Muroi would have fared against Mitsuya! Crafty Veteran vs. Unrefined Talent
Lord of Longcats
It highlights the amount of effort required by a young underdog to get to the finals versus a crafty veteran.
Meguru spends half of his fights figuring out what he is a) doing wrong or
Muroi goes in with a battle plan he made and initiates his plan early. I would be disappointed if they didn't go quickly.
I am curious how Muroi would have fared against Mitsuya! Crafty Veteran vs. Unrefined Talent
Damn so smart T_T *goes back to editing*
Sweet Potato
Sweet Potato
Yeah, a huge age difference. Meguru's probably on the young side for actually competing at the sport and no doubt Muroi is well on the older side too.
This one'll no doubt be a long fight.
Lord of Longcats
Lord of Longcats
Sweet Potato
Like I said in the comments: I feel like Nabe got dis.
Yeah, he was a good match for Meguru. A crafty veteran to mentor the young up-and-comer. 
Fried Potato
Oooh, Muroi jinxed it! Started thinking overconfident. Now Meguru's gonna start giving him trouble.
Potato Sprout
Elements the author has planted, both subtle hints and blatant themes, come into to play resolving this fight.
More mature writing is one of the pleasures of seinen manga, even in an action manga.
The folly of youth and the folly of experience both play into this match!
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