DLRevan

To everybody wondering why Grumpy isn't just handing the torch to somebody else or hiring more sysadmins, it's not a matter of trust or not finding anybody. I've discussed this with Grumpy myself several times. There's more to running a site like this than just keeping up with visitor demand. The details are brutal, and "more help" won't solve the biggest problems and stress causers behind the scenes.

Grumpy deciding to shut down the site instead of just dumping the problems on other people is well within his rights, and though it hurts me knowing the only place I've read manga (except on my ipad, which hate batoto for some reason) will be closing, I'll send Grumpy off with a smile and a wave, hoping that he lives a damned good life from now on for giving us this site for as long as he did.

As some one who knows how to run a database heavy site that serves content though, reading Grumpy's description of his life of the past 7 years puzzles me. No site should need one person's 24/7 support reagrdless of what part of the system we're talking about, and Batoto is not fully unique in the type of content it serves, though I cannot comment on the backend because it sounds strange to me that it takes this much effort. I'm not saying its easy, but it should be sane. Unless this is about handling DMCAs and other non-system related administration, though I don't see why one person has to do all of it either.

I still think you guys should hand off the site to someone else. If "someone else" fails at continuing the site to an appropriate standard, under a new label if necessary, at least an attempt was made. Take that as an offer if you like, I would be willing to discuss doing it, though I'm sure there are plenty of interested parties.

Overall I have to agree with these arguments. 

I do not condone the attack put out by this user but the arguments (besides maybe the argument about what the scanlators want) are valid.

While the scanlators may want their work out to everyone they still should want their work represented as their own.

 

I really hate to say this but it must be said:

Unless you are planning to make this a legitimate business your hope of stopping or truly hindering those who steal other's work off the site is almost nonexistant. I thought of 10-20 ways to reduce the theft of work; but the time and effort it would take to create and keep up to date would likely be too heavy of a load for someone who is not making money for their efforts. If Inhibition of bots and crawlers is the goal then I can easily see it as a full time job for a group of at least 5 people or more.

 

EDIT :

I really wish I could actually talk on this subject I have so many thoughts on this subject that I cannot seem to keep them in one place long enough to mention them.

The arguments may be valid given infinite resources, but unfortunately this isn't a problem of principle where the aim is to prevent other aggregators from crawling Batoto because the content isn't "theirs", but rather because crawlers are slowly killing the site and putting it in the red.

In the face of that, why is there even a question that more measures be put in place, when to continue the status quo means the site goes further into the red and may have to close in the future? Nobody wins then, not the scanlators, the members here, the casuals, the crawlers or the idea of free proliferation of the series here.

So what if it changes nothing about other sites and their behavior? Grumpy isn't out to "educate" them or change their ways.