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[dinoclops]

I recently read Susume's Heartbreak, an endearing manga with only three chapters. Some people tend to shy away from short ones because there "isn't enough to it." I personally think sometimes it's better to have a short, well-done story than a drawn out one. What do you guys think?

Edited by dinoclops, 26 August 2012 - 11:24 PM.

[Angelo.]

short stories are great if it gives you some moral lesson at the end or a message dunno but long stories are never ending and we just hate wen it comes to an end,

[Fangz]

Personally...It's not particularly the length that makes the Manga from my perspective but more if it's completed or not.

For example, Akumetsu is one of my all time favorites and I think the part that plays the most in my love for that manga is because it is finished. I love conclusions more then the story most of the time, which is why I don't play MMO's and hate most Animes that were adaptations.

It just comes down to a matter of taste, since there are people that don't like conclusions because a conclusion means an end.

[Maia]

So long as the plot stays good and doesn't go stale, I love longer mangas. Again, like the others, because it has no end. If its a romance, in a lot of ways it shows the good and the bad of what can happen, not just ending with happily ever after, because in reality, happily ever after does not exist. There never can be a happily ever after. If there is, then I have never seen it. Even in non romantical stories that have happily ever after still seem unrealistic.

[dinoclops]

Long one's that stay fresh are good in my opinion, but I'm sure most of us have run into the infamous "Tournament Arc."

[Fangz]

So long as the plot stays good and doesn't go stale, I love longer mangas. Again, like the others, because it has no end. If its a romance, in a lot of ways it shows the good and the bad of what can happen, not just ending with happily ever after, because in reality, happily ever after does not exist. There never can be a happily ever after. If there is, then I have never seen it. Even in non romantical stories that have happily ever after still seem unrealistic.

It's sad that that is true, probably the biggest downfall to conclusions is a conclusion that's too optimistic/rushed...Another example here would honestly be Mirai Nikki, the ending was just beyond what should have happened, I loved the story but the conclusion was just a little too happy for everyone that took part in the game.

Edited by Fangz, 27 August 2012 - 12:19 AM.

[Maia]

It's sad that that is true, probably the biggest downfall to conclusions is a conclusion that's too optimistic/rushed...Another example here would honestly be Mirai Nikki, the ending was just beyond what should have happened, I loved the story but the conclusion was just a little too happy for everyone that took part in the game.

I honestly can't say that I disagree with that. Its sad, because a lot of times, happily ever after endings really make me angry sometimes. It makes me wonder why real life can't be that way. It would make things a lot better, and there could possibly be a whole hell of a lot less pain and suffering in the world. But eh, such is life, right?

[Fangz]

I honestly can't say that I disagree with that. Its sad, because a lot of times, happily ever after endings really make me angry sometimes. It makes me wonder why real life can't be that way. It would make things a lot better, and there could possibly be a whole hell of a lot less pain and suffering in the world. But eh, such is life, right?

yeah, such is life indeed, still, life's the most valuable thing I own, even though it hurts to keep.

On that note, would we value happiness as much as we do now if there was near to no pains? Like, I'd love to be immortal but every story about an immortal in some way stresses the point of loneliness.

[ Just realized how deep the topic got D: ]

Edited by Fangz, 27 August 2012 - 12:42 AM.

[Angelo.]

dunno if happy ever after exist but i will try my best create my own and live a life of inseparable love, rich like the aroma of her smile which is that of a delicate flower, and value it.

everybody wishes to live forever but fortunately i think immortality is not for everybody, only those deemed worty of it and understand its consequences...

Edited by starboy, 27 August 2012 - 01:30 AM.

[ValorantX]

It really depends. If the story has to end after only a few volumes then I'll be happy to read it as a "short masterpiece." But many manga are not like that, different series improve along the way as the author stretches the plot and you start to enjoy reading it a lot more at chapter 300 than at chapter 100. Also, a lot of good series that ended early just need to be longer! There's a difference between a perfect conclusion and a rushed ending.

[Kreian]

if the plot is interesting i would say prolong it a bit

[PhoenixAUS]

MxO probably got the worst conclusion

Spoiler

he goes and trains in magic for a year in a different school (he finished his first year of high school and went to train in another school for a year, so he should of came back in his last year of high school) the manga ends in him training. You would think there would be a second season but there isnt, god damn annoying

i was so pumped for a second season, but it never came. T_T
its like ending naruto in the two year time-skip.

[Maia]

yeah, such is life indeed, still, life's the most valuable thing I own, even though it hurts to keep.

On that note, would we value happiness as much as we do now if there was near to no pains? Like, I'd love to be immortal but every story about an immortal in some way stresses the point of loneliness.

[ Just realized how deep the topic got D: ]

Honestly, I don't think we would value it as much. Life is full of trials and tribulations, and thats one thing I like about long manga's is they show those trials, before and after the supposed happy ending. Hence, making it more realistic to some degree.

[Laurens D]

Personally...It's not particularly the length that makes the Manga from my perspective but more if it's completed or not.

For example, Akumetsu is one of my all time favorites and I think the part that plays the most in my love for that manga is because it is finished. I love conclusions more then the story most of the time, which is why I don't play MMO's and hate most Animes that were adaptations.

It just comes down to a matter of taste, since there are people that don't like conclusions because a conclusion means an end.

Conclusions is always better then having axed ends. They have to make a good ending and not some rape kiss fall in love sh1t and they live happy after -.-

[sharonz]

Hi, I enjoy the little story with manga!!

[hero]

it depends on the type on manga. if its a shounen fighting manga like bleach, then its easy to go on and still be interesting.
if its a romance manga its different. lets take Good Ending as example, it should have ended a long time ago, I mean they are just going in circles. nothing is happening.

[Horn]

if its a shounen fighting manga like bleach, then its easy to go on and still be interesting.

Somehow I really gotta disagree with that...

lets take Good Ending as example, it should have ended a long time ago, I mean they are just going in circles. nothing is happening.

Sounds like Bleach or Naruto to me.

[hero]

Somehow I really gotta disagree with that...
Sounds like Bleach or Naruto to me.

a lot of people just care for the fighting scene, look at beelzebub. when its a normal chapter the ratings are bad, when its a fighting chapter the rating goes up.
but you can´t do that with romance, in romance at some point the MC just has to get a girlfriend/boyfriend and then there isn´t a lot left to do.

[Yaomo]

an interesting plot and a good ending is what i want from a manga
doesn't matter how long or short it is. it can be only a few pages long, or hundreds of chapters, and i'll be happy as long as it's entertaining

[ValorantX]

MxO probably got the worst conclusion

Spoiler

he goes and trains in magic for a year in a different school (he finished his first year of high school and went to train in another school for a year, so he should of came back in his last year of high school) the manga ends in him training. You would think there would be a second season but there isnt, god damn annoying

i was so pumped for a second season, but it never came. T_T
its like ending naruto in the two year time-skip.

The real reason why Mx0's conclusion was a bad conclusion because it shouldn't have had a conclusion that early.....at all. One of the most disappointing axes I've seen. But if you look at it in an objectively, the author wrapped up in a very clean way.

a lot of people just care for the fighting scene, look at beelzebub. when its a normal chapter the ratings are bad, when its a fighting chapter the rating goes up.

No, it's quite well known that in fact Beelzebub's ratings on the magazine plummeted to the bottom 5 when it switched from comedy to mainly battles. That's why the author had to change his style back to the way it was after a long battle arc took place.