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[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

I was planning this for long time ago but Mokata gave me the courage to to this so I am starting this thread.
First of all We are planning to make a simple one shot manga to improve our teamwork.
What do you say? Do you have any good ideas?Please share it in here

And there is a graphix part of this in Graphix section
http://vatoto.com/forums/topic/5017-lets-make-our-own-manga-graphix-part


Things to consider

• Genre and/or sub-genre
• manga,comic,mawha,orginal
• Theme
• Plot
• Story structure
• Setting
• Style and Tone
• Characters

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Edited by Leonardo, 02 April 2012 - 04:42 AM.

[Hellion Twins]

Did someone say neko?

Leo Ojichan, you doing a harem or shounen manga?
Would be nice if its sci-fi like chibi-chan, ears and tail be electronics for internet connection.

Edited by Hellion Twins, 20 March 2012 - 02:55 AM.

[Mokata]

Things to consider

Genre and/or sub-genre

• Adult
• Comedy
• Ecchi
• Gender Bender
• Historical
• Martial Arts
• Mecha
• One Shot
• Romance
• Sci-fi
• Shoujo Ai
• Slice of Life
• Sports
• Tragedy
• Yuri

Audience

Doujinshi
Shounen
Seinen
Shoujo
Josei

manga,comic,mawha,orginal

Theme

What is the lesson, moral or the thing the story is trying to tell

equality for women, animals, aliens,demons, hobos, nekos... etcs
Prepare for the end of the world
discrimination
woman rights
It's easy to take over world
Poor vs rich
Live life to fullest
Don't ever give up
You don't have to be the best for you can Challenge the world till you can't any more
Easy is boring
Romance isn't simple
Love is cruel
The father isn't the son
Children aren't dolls to there parents
Demons aren't evil just different
Dare to be different

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/patten/theme.html



Plot

What is the conflict or struggle the main character goes through?
Parts of a Plot

Story Goal - What is story trying to solve or achieve (Obvious goal: Become Hokage( real goal: People to respect him) ( world peace ..naruto)( Bleach doesn't have one)

Consequence - What happens if the main character doesn't achieve the goal. ( Stays genin( destroys the world)(nine tails takes over)( World ends)

Requirements - What does the main character need to achieve this goal? What events need to happen. These show that the character is close to the goal. These is important for emotion control of the reader for positive emotions. ( learn knew skills, control nine tails, meet farther, other student, make friends, save the day.)

Forewarnings - These allows the reader to glimpse into the future. What bad (consequences) happens when the character gets closer to the goal. This is important to control the emotions of the reader. Giving them fear and tension. ( Sasuke gets jealous and runs away)( People die)

Cost - There is a price to be paid for everything. What will the main character/s have to pay to achieve the goal. These is proof that the goal matters to the character ( lose there family,friends, cat,dog, arm, eye, soul,pride,self respect, love,teacher)

Dividends - The opposite of cost. These are the rewards for a the journey( promotion in rank, friends(naruto), meet the family from beyond the grave, gold,fame,glory)

Prerequisites - Things that need to happen before the requirements are meet. ( Must rescure sasuke before naruto becomes hokage, eat the magical pill before she enters the a new world that starts her adventure, defeat the dragon to get the key to save the prince)

Preconditions - Conditons or rules that make it harder to achieve the goal ( Low stamia for sports, afriad of blood (doctor), fail the exam three times (naruto), can't got outside after 5pm)

Plot Development - how the character acts throught the story. Must decide traits/methods/ablities that hinder of help him/her/it
Climax - Desicive or important moment occurs which decides if the story goal will be achieved. This is where you might set up the reading for the ending.

Resoultions

1. Comedy (happy ending): the protagonist achieves the goal or solves the problem, and his success turns out to be a good thing.
2. Tragedy: the protagonist fails to achieve the goal, and his failure is a bad thing.
3. Tragi-comedy (Personal Triumph): the protagonist fails to achieve the goal, but his failure turns out to be a good thing.
4. Comi-tragedy (Personal Tragedy): the protagonist achieves his goal, but his success turns out to be a bad thing.

Story structure
Setting
Style and Tone
Characters

Edited by Mokata, 20 March 2012 - 04:38 AM.

[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

Yes that's true Mokata. I'll add changings in the first post and
we can add poll for this (But i don't like this idea - really we shouldn't ask people to main things in a poll)

but i think comedy with a bit eichi would be good
especially if there are lots of neko girls

Edited by Leonardo, 20 March 2012 - 03:05 AM.

[Mokata]

My suggestion is trying something different. I think what people crave in something unorthodox. Here I going to throw some random off the head suggestion.
What about tragedy title neko girls. What happens when you wake up and you become an neko girl. What do you hear and see. Maybe things you didn't want to hear. ( ex mean girls or boy). Throw in a twist a little ways in and bunch more people have become neko. Toss in themes of equality, discrimation. Obviously there the mystery is why are they neko girls. Of course it could be more little hearted with comedy that only neko girl can make. (Think dogs,catnip)

Another thought is what happen when your normal cat has neko girl kittens. Now you have to take of them. Feed them and bathe them. Don't forget they will grow up fast. They are curious kitties that do what cats do including catnip,dogs,rolling in dirt, attacking you. You must teach them right or the they might do wrong.( cat burgler) Theme is taking care of others. The plot is the adventure of the neko cats. A deeper plot could be the reason why your cat had neko kitties. Oh yeah you could add serious trio that want to capture your cats. So it's not cliche don't ever let them catch instead let be some outside makes the world think they aliens. Maybe a mob attacks his house. The story could keep growing has the neko girls age. Obviously this would be hilarious if they main character was guy. These could mean rommance, school life troubles. Wow this story could go on for awhile.

You been rivals for years in everything that you could think about. Your best friends for life. What happen when want to date each other but find a secret that explains bizarre. obviously you continue the change but must protect her secret cause what happens when the other guys know.

You know apply to college is fun but If you don't research you might end up in a school for neko's where most of your classmates are girls. Your start to learn about neko life inside of cat life. (research how cats life, and act. Also research cat breeds these will help with character development.) What is the only human inside a cat school suppose to do? Hope you can run faster then the cat or maybe prove how brave you are but getting out of the tree. Ah be the leader against the rival school for dogs. (Maybe the dogs try and recruit him)

I win at all sports. Is it cheating if your not human? What happens when the coach finds out. What happens when the rival girls team finds out.
Theme: Pursuing your dream against all odds or animals. Plot: a fan of the sport finds out your a neko girl. Genre: Sports
Character: Evil fan or stalker

Your a fan of the new band called neko girls. What happens when you find out that they all neko girls. What does a fan do? Protect and Join them or become the evil fan.

So you were born differently but that doesn't mean your shouldn't achieve your dreams. What happens when the neko girl wants to be a doctor. Will here extra neko abilities help her achieve her dream or cause her more harm then good. ( Sense of smell vs smell blood, sharp claws and delicate tools) . A twist could be that a wired doctor does or want to do research on her

[pizhhh]

^ Deconstruction. Cool!

[Hellion Twins]

The second plot sounds too close to a H plot for my comfort. x.x

Or we can just do a nekomimi version of Warriors.

[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

i like all of your ideas.
Btw we should make it simple and easy to understand
But i think we should prepare a sexy main character Neko girl and a Handsome boy (he can be a neko too but it is not that necessary)
after that we can put stories on them.
Cause It'll be a spark of new ideas we just need to start it

[Mokata]

Whats the goal of the thread? Make a Team project? Sounds fun? Skype,google plus, yahoo messager?


Hmm... maybe start a group that helps other get started. Maybe this is the apart future of manga readers? Need wanted pages would say Needed translator,proofreader,editor, artist,writer. Well I suppose not a lot would change.

btw: Maybe some weired love triangles. Some of my ideas where for stories that reach long distance lengths.I hope to read your story someday. I live the warrior idea. Maybe neko warrior girls don't like how cats are being treat on the human planet. Meets handsome guy?

Oh yeah here some links to software
http://download.cnet.com/Comic-Book-Creator-Standard/3000-6675_4-10461623.html
http://mashable.com/2010/10/24/create-your-own-comics/

Edited by Mokata, 20 March 2012 - 05:01 AM.

[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

Mokata we will use photoshop. so we won't need these i think.
We will do a teamwork as you said.

and story should be catching . and as you said there could be some love trieangles but we will see that in the future

[Hellion Twins]

I can help with character creation and personality development. -is a strong Rper-

I'd still need a plot and personality requests to form them though. -customizes characters for people to RP with-

[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

All we need is brain strorm

and hellion we can start with a sexy female character you can start drawing possible candidates for this.

Edited by Leonardo, 20 March 2012 - 05:02 AM.

[Hellion Twins]

Nekomimi - > New Pet Industry - > Discrimination & Abuse - > Idol Production - > ? -> Good Story?

Nekomimi Idol Producing Crew + Nekomimis = main characters

[pizhhh]

Maybe 'hardships of a nekomimi idol' in between idol production and good story?

I can help with scenario creation (is that a thing?) and world building.

Edited by Pizhhh, 20 March 2012 - 05:10 AM.

[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

First things first we will follow this order
Things to consider

• Genre and/or sub-genre
• manga,comic,mawha,orginal
• Theme
• Plot
• Story structure
• Setting
• Style and Tone
• Characters

@hellion: i meant drawing a picture of heroine lols, not characteristics

Edited by Leonardo, 20 March 2012 - 05:13 AM.

[Hellion Twins]

Revised

Nekomimi - > New Pet Industry - > Discrimination & Abuse - > Idol Production - > Gain Popularity + Raise Equality Awareness -> Romance -> Good Story?
I don't feel like just having one main Nekomimi and one guy tho.

Genres to choose: (think we should set up a temporary poll?)

Shoujo
Romance
School Life
Fantasy
Action <- feels a little overused tho.

[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

The story should be in these genres i think
Comedy, romance, Drama, Eichi, School life,

an example the story: a Nekogirl falls in love with a human boy who she goes with the same school and she wants him to love her

Edited by Leonardo, 20 March 2012 - 05:17 AM.

[Hellion Twins]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkXIurIK4zc

Our cheering song?

[pizhhh]

The story should be in these genres i think
Comedy, romance, Drama, Eichi, School life,

an example the story: a Nekogirl falls in love with a human boy who she goes with the same school and she wants him to love her

a bit of fantasy, maybe? since it's set on a world where nekomimis exist.

[Cʜɪʟʟɪɴ_Pᴀɴᴅᴀ]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkXIurIK4zc

Our cheering song?

we have Batoto sing group for this lets make a request from them for songs

a bit of fantasy, maybe? since it's set on a world where nekomimis exist.

I've just started the ideas you should add on and we can find the avarage way

Edited by Leonardo, 20 March 2012 - 05:28 AM.