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[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

Hell, this whole site's concept is illegal to begin with

[Tierra]

Well... there are bits and pieces of blog stuff in the wiki *cough* but you sometimes have to look closely (like in the Trivia section or included in the text or something).

Edited by Tierra, 10 June 2014 - 02:12 PM.

[Boggyb]

Has the blog ever explained exactly how Hoti Kubera works? If not, going by how it visually appears (i.e. an external magical force that in effect makes someone stronger without actually strengthening their body directly), Teo should be essentially "immune" to an opponent's Hoti Kubera.

[Tierra]

Strengthens the caster's physical power, both defence and attack, but physically only (not magic and transcendental).

The duration is not limited, only the vigor left sets a limit.

It's possible for the caster to dismiss it by will.

Depending on wich body parts are strengthened, the energy consumption per time varies, so it should be adjusted to an approriate level.

Most fighters use this magic per default.

 

*put it through google translate and tried to make sense out of it*

[Blunt]

Teo should be immune to the direct magical enhancement Hoti Kubera provides. But she'd still receive the damage the un-enhanced punch would inflict and any indrect damage (like if a person used Hoti Kubera to increase the strength of their spear throwing or something).

[Boggyb]

If Hoti Kubera is an external force that surrounds a body or limb and increases power and reduces impact from other attacks, then she should be able to ignore 99% of it with her cheater Kali powers.

If Hoti Kubera directly strengthens a person's body to the same result and just happens to have an external visual effect because magic has to look cool, then she shouldn't be able to.

As you noted, thrown/swung things exempt from her resistance regardless.

 

Of course, the specifics of how it works only becomes relevant if we get some human on human combat involving Teo which seems relatively unlikely.

 

Incidentally, the true #1 fighter is Mind Controlled Leez. Kasak's fight with Maruna was on less than perfect terms, but he was never anywhere near getting the upper hand. MC'ed Leez might have killed Maruna had Yuta not interfered. (His transcendental probably doesn't kill himself, but followed up by a Sword of Re through the eye? Likely dead chicken)

[I love sleeping]

Ksak should be legit stronger than maruna in a 1 vs 1.

[BehindTheLighT]

Ksak should be legit stronger than maruna in a 1 vs 1.

but in season1 maruna easily handled kasak even without using trascendentals

[smtmissin]

True. Even though Kasak's transcendentals are strong, he is way too slow compared to Maruna. A fighter needs both strength and speed.

Edited by smtmissin, 11 June 2014 - 11:33 AM.

[I love sleeping]

but in season1 maruna easily handled kasak even without using trascendentals

He used up most of his vigor against hura.

Kasak is pretty much equal to 5th stage rakshasa which is ofc > a 4th stage rakshaha like maruna

[Boggyb]

He used up most of his vigor against hura.

Kasak is pretty much equal to 5th stage rakshasa which is ofc > a 4th stage rakshaha like maruna

 

Pretty much equal to is not equal to. The difference in vigor is significant. 

 

Also, you can't just compare stages as power level. Compare Yuta to all the Ananta 4th stage Rakshasa. 

[popabogdan]

Also it is said that Maruna is way more powerful than most of the 4th stage Rakshasa. It's probably because he trained alot in the veeeryy long time in which he didn't develop.

[I love sleeping]

Pretty much equal to is not equal to. The difference in vigor is significant. 

 

Also, you can't just compare stages as power level. Compare Yuta to all the Ananta 4th stage Rakshasa. 

Yuta is a very special case you can't compare anyone else to him.

 

Yes maruna is a very strogn 4th stage rakshaka but kasak at full power is stronger.

[DemonSoul]

Maruna can access his stage 5 powers (http://kubera.wikia.com/wiki/Latent_Force), thus making him an equal to Kasak in terms of "stages". There is a problem here tho, so far I've noticed that in Kubera universe, speed>power. Sure Kasak might have stronger abilities in terms of transcendentals, but when it comes to speed and power(Strength) - Maruna pretty much manhandled Kasak.

 

TL:DR My money is on Maruna, even if Kasak is has full Vigor.

 

Yuta is probably a bit weaker than Stage-4, "strong" Rakshasa by just a little bit (notice how Maruna did not use Latent force against him like he did vs Kasak). Even though he tried to protect himself and Lez, in the end he was still slower than Maruna. Still though, that is amazing for a Stage 3 - but I'm just saying that it would be foolish to rank him up there with Maruna and Shess. Muh Rankings: Maruna/Shess >Kasak/Yuta>Ananta Snakes>Dolan (pls).

Kasak might struggle vs Yuta because he's much more focused on Transcendentals than Maruna/Shess whom are far more able when it comes to getting close and personal.

 

Then again it's just what I've noticed from seing those oh-so-short fights between all the Rakshasas.

Edited by DemonSoul, 11 June 2014 - 04:16 PM.

[BehindTheLighT]

by the way, can't believe how we are talking about powerlevels in kubera XD

[dondara]

Ksak should be legit stronger than maruna in a 1 vs 1.

Nah

Maruna was about to bite off Kasak's neck and probably kill him. He didn't because Agni's arrival distracted him and Kasak holds info he wants (not actually going for the kill). I thought it was pretty much established by Currygom herself that Maruna is superior ...

 

I would say:

Maruna > 3rd stage Yuta > Kasak.

[Boggyb]

by the way, can't believe how we are talking about powerlevels in kubera XD

 

Leez; Asha, what does the scouter say about his transcendental level?

Asha: It's over 9000!!!!

Leez: What!? 9000? Wait, is that high?

Asha: ... (Crushes scouter in annoyance)

[Giantess]

Incidentally, the true #1 fighter is Mind Controlled Leez. Kasak's fight with Maruna was on less than perfect terms, but he was never anywhere near getting the upper hand. MC'ed Leez might have killed Maruna had Yuta not interfered. (His transcendental probably doesn't kill himself, but followed up by a Sword of Re through the eye? Likely dead chicken)

 

Apples and oranges.  Both Kasak and Maruna were in their transformed forms during that fight, and Maruna was being extremely careful (and may not even have been trying to kill Kasak), because he took his opponent very seriously as a dragon.

 

Meanwhile, Maruna was relatively dismissive of Leez -- he recognized that she was stronger than before and that the Sword of Re meant he should finish it quickly, but he still just thought of her as a human.  The only reason he nearly died was because that let Possessed!Leez goad him into using his most powerful attack on her while underestimating the amount of vigor she had available.

 

(He may have nearly died twice, if you count her resurrecting behind him and almost beheading him, but that's similar -- he thought he could just kill her in one blow, and almost let his guard down as a result.  He wouldn't have been so careless against the son of the Destruction Dragon.)

 

 

Leez; Asha, what does the scouter say about his transcendental level?

Asha: It's over 9000!!!!

Leez: What!? 9000? Wait, is that high?

Asha: ... (Crushes scouter in annoyance)

 

Shouldn't that be with Riche?

 

What, 17860?  There's no way it can be that high!

Edited by Giantess, 14 June 2014 - 07:43 AM.

[Snowl]

No translations sadly. There are bits and pieces scattered around, but nothing systematic. The author doesn't want her blog information reproduced elsewhere, and that seems to include translations. The English scanlations aren't exactly legal in the first place, so she doesn't really owe anything to the English readers, so...

 

That said, the stuff she puts into her blog are stuff she considers unnecessary to understanding the story, and it usually is. Some of the info on there is useful to deducing some stuff, but she will always eventually reveal the important stuff within the webtoon as well. Well, most people miss the clues in the webtoon in the first place...

I agree, the bits of information that I've read floating around on this forum are either easily deducible or not plot relevant. 

 

Some things,e.g. spell mechanics, don't have to be spelled out completely to obtain a good enough idea of how they work, i.e. they say words and poof the spell is cast, j/k.

 

There's this other webtoon called Knight Run. To be honest, when I read That one, I'm pretty glad that Currygom stuffs a lot of stuff into her blog, because man all those names and such can be annoying (in my humble opinion). D:

Nothing says an author can't put all the required information into a story and not be the clusterfuck of nonsensical technobabble that is Knight Run.