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[Kokai]

I'm sorry, I forgot for a second we are only allowed to reiterate what all the other people post on this forum.

 

I mean coming up with crazy theories in a thread dedicated to such? Preposterous, I say!

 

It's so much better to tell people how bored they are, rather than come up with stuff yourself. Everyone knows that!

 

Silly me, I almost forgot those very important rules. Thank you for reminding me!

I'll just let the thread rot now, just like everyone else.

[Meismighty]

The connotation of my message was changed a lot by the emoticon, which looked a lot more friendly before it was auto replaced by some stupid smug looking face. You do you, man, you don't have to justify yourself at all. I just found it funny, because Akraptor is such an irrelevant character that he himself readily wants to die to not be in the way anymore.

[The Corinthian]

About LeeSoo being a FUG plant. I always assumed that Goseng was a spy for someone. That someone contacted a bunch of regulars. Told them that a FUG regular would enter a test soon and that they would be rewarded if they could get close to him and keep tabs on him for them.

 

Evidence for this is that she is the only one that realize that Baams uniform symbolize FUG. Not even the ranker who hates FUG knows that. Also she often looks so guilty during their climb. Like if she is selling them out at regular intervals. She is also a lightbearer, perfect for this kind of thing and she was the one who sent Teddy and Baam to the Hand of Arlene for no good reason.

 

Who are them that she reports to? Good question. It could be another faction of FUG, it could be Gustang or even someone affiliated with Zahard. 

[Apan]

Jinsung is Ha Yurin's grandson and one of the slayers.
The thorn is the guardian of the 43th floor itself, sealed by Enryuu.
Phantaminium killed Zahard when he stormed the palace. The 10 families are hiding this fact and keeping the status quo. When zahard's princess has a child, zahard's power is sucked out of it, and used to create another princess. Such children are given red rings with Zahard's crest. In order to regain its power, such child must kill a princess.
The Bloodmadder family is allied with FUG. They must want to get rid if their family head. This situation reminds me of Cronos eating his own children. The head will definitely be killed by one of his children. Maybe Yu Han Sung?
Red witches and silver dwarves are strictly controlled by the empire. Hwa Ryun is in FUG in order to free her people.
In order to leave the tower, you must reach the very top
Phantaminium has already reached the top and left.

Headon is working to topple Zahard's empire. He doesn't like that they have settled in the tower and abandoned the climb.

Edited by Apan, 04 October 2016 - 03:41 PM.

[Theris]

Jinsung is Ha Yurin's grandson and one of the slayers.

Wouldn't he be much more famous if he was a Slayer? I have a feeling FUG are advertising their slayes as much as possible, so he should be recognised much more easily.

 

The thorn is the guardian of the 43th floor itself, sealed by Enryuu.

Why not, but the Thorn is not supposed to be alive, if I remember well.

 

Phantaminium killed Zahard when he stormed the palace. The 10 families are hiding this fact and keeping the status quo. When zahard's princess has a child, zahard's power is sucked out of it, and used to create another princess. Such children are given red rings with Zahard's crest. In order to regain its power, such child must kill a princess.

First part ok, but the part with the child having to kill a princess... just why?

 

The Bloodmadder family is allied with FUG. They must want to get rid if their family head. This situation reminds me of Cronos eating his own children. The head will definitely be killed by one of his children. Maybe Yu Han Sung?

If Yu Han Sung was a member of a Bloodmadder family, he wouldn't have to be offered a place in a Great family as it happened in Season 1...

 

Red witches and silver dwarves are strictly controlled by the empire. Hwa Ryun is in FUG in order to free her people.

How are you supposed to control a race of guides on the first place?

 

In order to leave the tower, you must reach the very top
Phantaminium has already reached the top and left.
Headon is working to topple Zahard's empire. He doesn't like that they have settled in the tower and abandoned the climb.

All of those are rather likely.

[ladyemi]

I didn't read all the theories so I'm not sure if anyone said this before, 

but guys, Rachel was the one who taught Baam everything, even speaking, so she's the one who told him his name is 25th Baam. So she came from somewhere that everyone is calling him that because something happened on 25th night that Baam caused it and everyone scared of him and kept him in prison.

I don't know, maybe he just got born on that night.

[Bradford Aloysious Boon]

Hello guys, after reading this week's chapter (2.229) I came up with a dank theory.

In this chapter, Rachel reveals that the Key that opens the door to floor 135 and upwards was divided in two by Zahard, cuz' he was tired by all that climbing. He gave Ashul Edwaru one half, and he melted this half to make the 13 month series. The other half led to the making of the rings that Karaka and Wangnan wear, she implies that there are more than 2 rings.

We know that the 13 month series are bestowed to selected Princesses of Zahard only, one princess can give her weapon to another, or kill her to take it forcibly, to make it short, only a Princess should possess a 13 month series according to the rules. The 13 month series is made of 12 weapons and 1 inventory, so, I think that when a princess gathers all the 12 weapons in the Rainbow Undecimber, shit happens, and she is in possession of the first half of the Key. As for the second half, 13 princes were "made" in 13 district, each one had a ring, once these rings are gathered by one of these prince, he is in possession of the second half. Once the Prince and the Princess meet, probably on the 134th floor, they have sex, and the resulting baby is the Key, voilà.

[PaleKing]

I don´t know if this is crazy or not, but here I go. Wangnan and Karaka´s mother is a currently deceased Zahard princess who was pregnant at the time of inheriting a part of Zahards powers. The children in the belly absorbed more of Zahard´s powers than anyone ever had, resulting in Zahard´s hibernation. All the lords are super pissed.

[Horian]

1°Jinsung is Ha Yurin's grandson and one of the slayers.
2°The thorn is the guardian of the 43th floor itself, sealed by Enryuu.
3° Phantaminium killed Zahard when he stormed the palace. The 10 families are hiding this fact and keeping the status quo. 4° : When zahard's princess has a child, zahard's power is sucked out of it, and used to create another princess. Such children are given red rings with Zahard's crest. In order to regain its power, such child must kill a princess.
5°The Bloodmadder family is allied with FUG. They must want to get rid if their family head. This situation reminds me of Cronos eating his own children. The head will definitely be killed by one of his children. Maybe Yu Han Sung?
6°Red witches and silver dwarves are strictly controlled by the empire. Hwa Ryun is in FUG in order to free her people.
7°In order to leave the tower, you must reach the very top
8°Phantaminium has already reached the top and left.

9°Headon is working to topple Zahard's empire. He doesn't like that they have settled in the tower and abandoned the climb.

 

You are quite imaginative ^^'

 

1° : Not possible. He's just an old man that didn't do anything since at least 500 years. There's no way he could be a slayer. He's not even stronger than Karaka.

2° : Well, why not ? If the thorn is alive, it could be the guardian's very soul.

3° : That'd be very unlikely, Phantaminum stays neutral because he's an Axis.

4° : That's weird...

5° : That could be possible. Yu Han Sung will be developed in a future arc (Blog Post S1C71)

6° : That'd be difficult cause the Red Witches leave on the FoD.

7° : It seems there's another way. Arlen's way.

8° : Definitely possible

9° : We dont know what he thinks, so why not ?

[Blue December]

I believe that since time doesn't happen to be the same as our time on this earth, years inside or outside the tower are different so that is why probably Yuri has lived long enough without aging, probably due to Jahad's blood but my theory is that somehow Lahel was sent to Baam in order for him to grow, learn and to stop feeling lonely, so she probably was a maid or someone close to Arlen Grace, sent there as a child so she was able to be somewhat familiar with Baam, they lived for more than a thousand years outside the tower, that is why Yuri probably doesn't know about Baams existance or she has a feeling that he is special, that is why Gahrahm was not surprised that Baam was being followed by two Jahad's princesses, since Baam can ignite Black March that means he is able to control the 13 month series, thus he can gather them all, I think that Lahel will get the thorn but will betray Hoaquin, and somehow she will be able to flee the death floor, Baam will learn some of his history and he will have to make a choice, stop the Jahad's princess system or climb after Lahel, he will climb after Lahel since its the main purpose of the story but he will also feel responsible to protect Androssi and Yuri so he will probably try to end the princess conflict by gathering all of the 13 month series, thus later on he will meet with Koon Maschenny and somehow he will get her 13 month series, also he will be able to display some of the techniques that he learned and will learn from Urek. At the end he will confront Jahad and FUG and he will learn why Lahel is so desperate to climb the tower.

This is my theory.

Edited by Blue December, 01 March 2017 - 11:21 PM.

[naphack]

So how about the following? Quaetro is a girl. Then Chang can be one of Yama's mad dogs and Quaetro is his angel. He took Raguel and Buelsar with him to form a Mad Dog allstars team later down the line.

His original encounter with Viole was because Yama wanted a direct assessment of Viole's skills and potential and he has ever since been on standby. He might even have been sent for political reasons, so that no matter who ends up winning the internal conflict of FUG, Yama can claim to have supported them and state that the other dog(s) were simply there of their own volition and had nothing to do with any orders he had given.

[gus]

hey naphack it been a while how it going

Edited by gus, 31 March 2017 - 05:41 AM.

[naphack]

Doing fine man.

Just caught up to almost 2 year's worth (about 20 months) of ToG and now I'm stuck waiting for the next release

[gus]

i have a tinfoil theory 

 

the slayers are number by the 13th month series

 

Grace Mirchea Luslec: Founder and No. 1 Slayer of FUG = The Silver January 은빛 일월, Eunbit Ilwol; "Silver First Moon")

 

White: No. 10 Slayer of FUG = The Red October (붉은 시월, Bulgeun Shiwol; "Red Tenth Moon")

 

Baylord Yama: No. 7 Slayer of FUG = The Indigo July ^[1] (쪽빛 칠월, Jjokbit Chilwol; "Indigo Seventh Month")

Edited by gus, 02 April 2017 - 01:30 AM.

[ARegularIrregular]

Mirchea Luslec Grace.

Jue Viole Grace.

Arlene Grace.

So we know that Arlene is most likely Bam/Viole's mother. His father was someone called 'V' who committed suicide. The other ten families turned on them and allied with Zahard. When Garam explained that, the way she said it was weird. It wasn't just 'they chose to ally with Zahard', but more like 'for some reason, they helped Zahard'. Garam also knows a lot about the tower, and she had also thought that Bam wouldn't be that happy if he knew the whole story.

So what if after she killed her sister, she found Arlene or someone, and got all the information from them? What if the family heads had allied with Zahard because of blackmail or something?

And for Luslec, why is his last name Grace? And what is his relation to the others that I've mentioned?

 

Alternatively: Garam met Arlene, heard the whole story, and Luslec is Arlene's brother.

[The Corinthian]

Mirchea Luslec Grace.

Jue Viole Grace.

Arlene Grace.

Alternatively: Garam met Arlene, heard the whole story, and Luslec is Arlene's brother.

Lusec was born on floor 80 and became a follower of Arlene when the 12 + Zahard came to that floor. He continued a rebellion against Zahard that Arlene started. The rest of FUG have joined him in this rebellion for their own varied reasons. 

 

Exactly what happened have not been told yet. But I think that the story of Zahard, Arlene and Baam will come to closely mirror the story of Sister Freide in dark souls 3. But more about that some other time.