Maou no Hajimekata - The Comic

But why some people say Aur is a Lich? I'm not really a D&D expert but wasn't the Lich an Undead? Aur Bleeds and he was an old man before using all that mana to rejuvenate... and seems pretty alive to me. I thought when he was beheaded he used some powerful magic or whatnot to prevent him from dying...

or a Lich doesn't necessarily need to be an undead? *-*

Oh and a question... it doesn't seem to clear, but did he have sex with Sofia after/during the oath?

Ah well... about that

 

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1. Lil/Raz (succubus/wizard, Aur's former teacher)

2. Eunice (fallen hero)

3. Spina/Sophie (disciple)

4. Mari (village daughter)

5. Mio (beastmaster)

6. Ellen (dark elf)

7. Alexia (dark elf)

8. Bridgette (dark elf)

9. Claudine (dark elf)

10. Delfina (dark elf)

11. Leona/Naja (ex adventurer, swordswoman- NTRed from Hero)

12. Shirley/Charl (ex adventurer, fallen cleric- NTRed from Hero)

13. Viktor/Vikia (ex adventurer; magician - NTRed from Hero)

14. Olivia (former queen of Figuria)

15. Patricia (former princess of Figuria)

16. Priscilla (former princess of Figuria)

17. Norm (merchant)

18. Celes (white elf, NTRed from another Hero)

19. Mary (ex immortal being)

20. The rest 45 of the original 50 Black Elves whose names I couldn't remember

21. A brigade of succubi

22. The rest of the white elves

23. Forest faeries

24. Mio's "exotic" monsters- Lamia, Lycan Girl, Harpies, you name it

 

1-3 being his inner harem, still Aur pretty much bangs the other girls at least once per two chapters

That's....quite a lot...

5-7 girls, if memory of the novel's intro-page serves...

Ah well... about that

Long story short, he was a magnificent bastard.

The only notable ladies in the series he didn't bang were the Figurian strategist, Eunice brother's wife, and one heroic spirit.

So, Aur bangs a new girl every chapter? Let's see how far this can go...

5-7 girls, if memory of the novel's intro-page serves...

So, Aur bangs a new girl every chapter? Let's see how far this can go...

My apologies then, your wording comes across as brash and drives the impression of a very single-minded perspective.  Of course, cold text can do just that.

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The point of my comment is this, rape can be a fantastic tool but the simple problem is rape needs to be handled in a way in which we can sympathize or empathize. 

By very human nature, we understand certain rights and wrongs.  Going on a psychological level we perceived something to be "wrong" with someone who commits certain actions or crimes and depending on the level of crimes find them to be lacking in humanity.  It generally creates more of a void and less empathy since people generally can't understand what would drive someone to such hostile extremes or so forth. 

I'm not saying rape cannot be used in a constructive manner, but it needs to be used delicately instead of a blunt force object.  Writers tend to default to rape as a "hard hitter".  To look extreme or edgy without handling the emotional or psychological effects it gives on both the characters in the said story, as well as the reader.  Personally I think rape is a cheap tool used by people who don't know how to properly write a character as being evil, or don't know how to convey something bad happening to someone so they go for a tool they know is universally acknowledge as a evil thing without bothering to flesh out the aftermath.  At least in the stories/manga/light novels/tv shows/movies it generally isn't used in a proper manner.  The anime-based products usually being the worst offenders.  Of course, this is all personal perspective in this aspect. 

The problem I have with this story, and with the point you had made, is rape isn't exactly used in a proper aspect.  Well, at least thus far as the translation is still on going and thus could provide further fleshing out of said consequences and reactions.  However, my point is that empathy and sympathy is lost towards someone who has shed their portion of humanity. 

Let's take a look outside of this on a character like.. oh let's go with Riddick since I caught Pitch Black on TV.  Murderer, hostile and defensive, but as the movie progresses he finds himself put in a position he'd rather not be.  Given the option to leave the planet, he instead chooses to come back.  He never changes who he is, but rather his character expands and we, the audience, root for him despite the fact that he is clearly a bad person.  Even outside of Riddick I grealty enjoy anti-heroes.

 

My entire point is I can't root for the main character.  Not because he's a bad person, or detestable, but because I'm uninterested in his journey.  The whole collecting human women despite the fact that he clearly hates humanity is an entirely different aspect, but it just strikes me as less of a "conquer the world" and more of "I'm going to build a harem of human women".

 

Also, I won't tell you what to write or not to so please refrain from telling me what to.  I would kindly appreciate it.

And if you are to advocate discussion, I would kindly appreciate you to accept criticism.

To conclude, I would say that while this story does not hook you, and that it is definitely flawed in many ways (pacing damnit!) it has what it takes to hook others, and we go back to matters of personal preference. Also, I think you're a bit quick when stating that his journey is about collecting women for his harem. While the MC has a definite taste for the flesh, we don't know what the sacrificial maidens were originally for, and I think his harem-gathering ways are a bit exaggerated in the comments.

 I'll admit I was skimming at that point because I knew exactly where this was going since this is really just porn, and decided yep going with the dumbass premise "rape her, and it'll make her feel good and love you" just like how it works in real life, right? right? I mean that's how we all got women by our sides, am I right people? Oh...wait..

Reads smut, complains about sex scenes... And you weren't as much skimming as "looking at the pretty pictures".

Also, mixing real life standards with those of a fantasy world with magic in it is even less sensible than it sounds.

 I'll admit I was skimming at that point because I knew exactly where this was going since this is really just porn, and decided yep going with the dumbass premise "rape her, and it'll make her feel good and love you" just like how it works in real life, right? right? I mean that's how we all got women by our sides, am I right people? Oh...wait..

Skimmed through.

Projecting.

Awkward real life parallel.

No, this is not what I'm saying. There is a very slight difference, but let's be clearer here.

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Since you seem to say that I wrongly reworded your claims, let's directly quote you:

"I was simply approaching your discussion as to why it didn't work"

To which the only response is : "For you."

Why? Because it works. The very basis of your argument is plain wrong unless we, from the start, view it under the prism of your understanding and your sensibilities. Forget objectivity, forget thinking about the ins and the outs of the work, its art, pacing, scenario, artistic qualities etc... No, we're talking about "why you don't like it". Which invites the answer of "well my good man, if it doesn't work for you it's all very sad, but I can't do jack shit about it." The only discussion that can be had regarding your stance is about your personal tastes. And you can't debate about tastes. It just doesn't work.

But let's still talk about your arguments. So, it doesn't work, for you. Now, why does it fail to work for you?

I say arguments, but really there is only one.

You specify the use of rape as something too extreme, which, by its mere existence, breaks balance.

Exact quote : "The problem being rape"

And how it makes creating towards the MC "hard" (most likely a euphemism) and that it has the added effect of losing "any remote chance of capturing the audience".

And again, when you say that rape is the problem, that it destroys the balance between empathy and having an asshole MC, there is nothing for noone to answer. For you it makes creating empathy towards the MC way too difficult, because rape is too extreme. For you. Yes, these words again. As really, I can't see what else to say. Rape, to you, is too extreme. Not to me, at least not in the way it was shown here. And I could go on record stating that while there are others thinking like you, there are others thinking like me, that there are plenty of people liking the work enough for it not to fear being cancelled, and that in these circumstances, there is no need to try and please everyone. I could even say that rape, in all its heinousness is necessary here. Let's be honest, if your absolutely irreedemable villain only ever kills enemies, then he really is not much worse than a lot of anti-heroes, if not even straight up heroes from other works. If you want your villain to be terrible and heinous, you better amp up your game. And what was the favorite past-time of historical people with weapons? Well, killing people, but that's not enough. Bullying people, better, but still, a little bit light for a demon lord, no? Well, there is that whole "rape pillage and burn" that was all the rage with so many armies throughout the ages. Bingo! Let's go for that! And indeed, our MC rapes, pillages, and burns things. Because we need to establish him as a villain. Rape is not just "fitting" for this story, in a sense it's absolutely necessary.

So, what I am basically saying is "The points you are bringing up are merely a question of like/dislike and one's inner sensibilities and as such, do not lend themselves to discussion. You like it, or you don't. You find it too extreme, or you don't ; But there is no room for imput from someone else."

 

I am all for discussing what can be discussed about. Your points? They're not. Also, please refrain from writing something like "instead of inquiring about the hows and whys of my stance". You either write it and I can respond to it, or you don't and I don't care. I am not contractually obligated to ask you to clarify your stance so you may sound less wrong.

My apologies then, your wording comes across as brash and drives the impression of a very single-minded perspective.  Of course, cold text can do just that.

Also, I won't tell you what to write or not to so please refrain from telling me what to.  I would kindly appreciate it.

This may come out wrong but... Do you read the dialogues? The bit about the hero star? About how, were he to try and kill her, she would probably break the sleep spell, manage an impossible escape and come back stronger? Manga101 : Killing the hero does not work.

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So the MC devises a plan to have her "fall" and have her star replaced with the "dark hero" star, which does not provide such protection. And that through ways that the star of the heroes does not protect against, hypnosis to make her views a bit more extreme while keeping them in line with her previous stance, and deceit through theatrics. And once he has her under the dark hero star, once he has a magically compelling oath preventing her from betraying him (and the dark hero star does not protect against a willing vow) why kill her? No. Freaking reason.

The maidens? Kaboom. Then MC reforms, since his phylactery is somewhere else. Unless the explosion wipes away the entire dungeon, and the (probably magically protected) cache where he keeps his soul, he won't be any worse for the wear.

Also you, among others, keep using "wish fulfillment manga". Please do note that for a pretty huge number of people, the unwarranted slaughter of an entire village, women and children included is not a wish, much less one that we would like to see fulfilled. You may be (slightly) projecting your bad past experiences on this work. Which is not about a cool hero that we would enjoy projecting ourselves into, but an asshole MC that is supposed to evoke way more complicated feelings.

 

In short, your points are wrong, I am sorry to learn that you dislike this premise, and my advice would be for you to help yourself to a cookie and just walk away.

Wow isn't that whole star thing some convenient plot BS but I'll admit, like I said before I was skimming because our main character is kind of a wordy mother fucker. Which is never a good sign in a visual medium, even if it's coming from a written medium.
As for her falling for him from the rape, I really recommend some people here need to read some actual rape victim's stories. And yes stockholm syndrome but I pretty much stopped reading after our second porn scene.

Also what do we know of this guy? Maybe he was a psychopathic, murdering rapist before and got caught so he feels "betrayed". tell me why I should give two shits about this character!
Lastly I love how I'm just out right wrong. I never said the bombs would kill him, did I? I just said they could have bombs, and fuck up all his work.

Oh and I think I'm done here, I need to mind bleach this poorly done story and you people from my memory.

Did you miss the fact that if he outright killed her, it would have been very likely for him to get cursed to some extent. I'm pretty sure he stated that killing her directly like that would have had some severe negative repercussions. Heroes are special existences.

 I'll admit I was skimming at that point because I knew exactly where this was going since this is really just porn, and decided yep going with the dumbass premise "rape her, and it'll make her feel good and love you" just like how it works in real life, right? right? I mean that's how we all got women by our sides, am I right people? Oh...wait..

yeah cause putting a knife into her heart while she was asleep would have been so hard, keep in mind that he dragged her to a bed, and put her in chains all the while she never woke up. Also so she's going to be more powerful later? So doesn't that mean keeping her alive and near you is still the dumbest move around, et tu Brute? Just kill her and be done with the problem, this just proves our main character is a moron, and really again his only real motivation is to get his willy wet.
As for the maiden's offered, what if someone decided to put a magical bomb on them in some way, because the girls agreed to death rather than slavery. And before you mention well no one could have that power or that wouldn't work in this setting. From what I gather mana, in this world, is basically energy, so what if some other kingdom put forth effort to find another ley line(also fuck this horribly written, pandering, wish fulfillment, for having anything close to  Outlaw Star), took energy from that and put it in an object to explode on a certain time limit, or when the girl touches it in a certain way, or takes it off.
All I can see here is another poorly written wish fulfillment manga, based off some light novel, that the fans will eat up and disavow anyone that may say otherwise. If you're wondering yes I am getting sick of seeing this premise already.

I'm not going to deny, that the manga reeks to high heaven of wish fulfillment and the MC is as Stu as if gets, however, no manner of bomb would work on him, since he, as stated before, is a lich, and was smart enough to plan 50-60 years ahead, so his soul is probably not somewhere it can easily be tempered with (And it makes no difference what happens to his body)

Which spells that heroes are not "fated" to die easily, and stabbing her when she is asleep would probably fail. Along with poison, magic, mindfucking... Basically, she has plot-armor (Funny how not the MC has it this time around, now isn't it?). And since you seem to argue, that there is no explanation for it at all, this much should be more than enough for that.

Of course, if you don't think that "Meh plot-armor" is enough for you, then there is little point in continuing, since we'll just end up disagreeing. You see this manga as wishfulfillment ecchi BS, while I see it as a potentially great and light-hearted (yet dark) story. Is there a chance that it will go to shit? Naturally, but so far I like it enough to take the "risk" with it.

yeah cause putting a knife into her heart while she was asleep would have been so hard, keep in mind that he dragged her to a bed, and put her in chains all the while she never woke up. Also so she's going to be more powerful later? So doesn't that mean keeping her alive and near you is still the dumbest move around, et tu Brute? Just kill her and be done with the problem, this just proves our main character is a moron, and really again his only real motivation is to get his willy wet.
As for the maiden's offered, what if someone decided to put a magical bomb on them in some way, because the girls agreed to death rather than slavery. And before you mention well no one could have that power or that wouldn't work in this setting. From what I gather mana, in this world, is basically energy, so what if some other kingdom put forth effort to find another ley line(also fuck this horribly written, pandering, wish fulfillment, for having anything close to  Outlaw Star), took energy from that and put it in an object to explode on a certain time limit, or when the girl touches it in a certain way, or takes it off.
All I can see here is another poorly written wish fulfillment manga, based off some light novel, that the fans will eat up and disavow anyone that may say otherwise. If you're wondering yes I am getting sick of seeing this premise already.

This may come out wrong but... Do you read the dialogues? The bit about the hero star? About how, were he to try and kill her, she would probably break the sleep spell, manage an impossible escape and come back stronger? Manga101 : Killing the hero does not work.

Also you, among others, keep using "wish fulfillment manga". Please do note that for a pretty huge number of people, the unwarranted slaughter of an entire village, women and children included is not a wish, much less one that we would like to see fulfilled. You may be (slightly) projecting your bad past experiences on this work. Which is not about a cool hero that we would enjoy projecting ourselves into, but an asshole MC that is supposed to evoke way more complicated feelings.

In short, your points are wrong, I am sorry to learn that you dislike this premise, and my advice would be for you to help yourself to a cookie and just walk away.

yeah cause putting a knife into her heart while she was asleep would have been so hard, keep in mind that he dragged her to a bed, and put her in chains all the while she never woke up. Also so she's going to be more powerful later? So doesn't that mean keeping her alive and near you is still the dumbest move around, et tu Brute? Just kill her and be done with the problem, this just proves our main character is a moron, and really again his only real motivation is to get his willy wet.
 

Did you miss the fact that if he outright killed her, it would have been very likely for him to get cursed to some extent. I'm pretty sure he stated that killing her directly like that would have had some severe negative repercussions. Heroes are special existences.

So what your basically saying is that "If you don't like it, that's your problem". 

 

I was actually kind of hoping to discuss, but sadly it seems impossible based upon your approach towards mutually discussing.  Which is there isn't one.  Since I never remotely stated  A. For you to change your opinion or B. Express that no one else should like this.  I was simply approaching your discussion as to why it didn't work.

I'd be more than happy to respond, but the fact that you dismiss my opinion as bullshit (as oppose to actually inquiring further upon why my stance is as such) leaves no room for counter opinions or secondary thought since you've clearly stated that you have no desire except to continue to express your own opinion, so I'll just leave it as thank you for the discussion and be off.

No, this is not what I'm saying. There is a very slight difference, but let's be clearer here.

So, what I am basically saying is "The points you are bringing up are merely a question of like/dislike and one's inner sensibilities and as such, do not lend themselves to discussion. You like it, or you don't. You find it too extreme, or you don't ; But there is no room for imput from someone else."

I am all for discussing what can be discussed about. Your points? They're not. Also, please refrain from writing something like "instead of inquiring about the hows and whys of my stance". You either write it and I can respond to it, or you don't and I don't care. I am not contractually obligated to ask you to clarify your stance so you may sound less wrong.

I've had credits pages mocking everyone from merchants to Basketball Americans to SJWs to Muslims, I'm not going to start self-censoring now just because some precious snowflakes get feelshurt or something. Though it is somewhat interesting that none of those other groups really complained about my previous credits pages, guess Muslims are just the specialest of snowflakes judging from the amount of tears I'm getting on my blog and seeing posted elsewhere other than batoto.

marry me

He trained Yunis because she would have been a real pain in the ass in the future and because she's a hero, he probably would have failed to kill her, no matter what.

The village girls, on the other hand probably (can't tell yet, since only Mary and Sofi have been given), will never be his confidants and will be mere sex toys, with the occasional talent getting some special tratment.

(Then again, Sofi is an exception, because she's almost inhuman in her nature)

yeah cause putting a knife into her heart while she was asleep would have been so hard, keep in mind that he dragged her to a bed, and put her in chains all the while she never woke up. Also so she's going to be more powerful later? So doesn't that mean keeping her alive and near you is still the dumbest move around, et tu Brute? Just kill her and be done with the problem, this just proves our main character is a moron, and really again his only real motivation is to get his willy wet.
As for the maiden's offered, what if someone decided to put a magical bomb on them in some way, because the girls agreed to death rather than slavery. And before you mention well no one could have that power or that wouldn't work in this setting. From what I gather mana, in this world, is basically energy, so what if some other kingdom put forth effort to find another ley line(also fuck this horribly written, pandering, wish fulfillment, for having anything close to  Outlaw Star), took energy from that and put it in an object to explode on a certain time limit, or when the girl touches it in a certain way, or takes it off.
All I can see here is another poorly written wish fulfillment manga, based off some light novel, that the fans will eat up and disavow anyone that may say otherwise. If you're wondering yes I am getting sick of seeing this premise already.

And it's your right to have those thoughts, and to express them, and I can respect that, but G*D...

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I've read some cringe worthy stuff, but this...

1)"Rape is a bad choice for a subversive story, because it's too evil." There is no "this is too subversive for a subversive story." it's downright impossible. It's twice the same thing. A good subversive story needs to have its heroes to be the worst people ever, sometimes even making them hilarious in how terrible people they are. This is exactly why they fascinate people, because they stand against the very basis of our society, but they're still just as human as anyone else. To claim that rape is too bad, too horrible to be used is merely taking your personal sensibilities for an iron-clad rule people should follow. What made the characters sympathetic, their good points, are still here, still reminding us of the empathy we felt for them and, in this capacity, even making that empathy survive. You cannot. As soon as the dreaded act of rape is used, you immediately put the character into the irredeemable monster box and stop caring about him/her. It's okay. But don't expect it to be the same for everyone.

 

2)"They are alienating a fuckload of their audience." Every manga does not need to sell like One Piece, just like every video game does not need to sell like the new Call of Duty. More sales is always good. But you don't need to make it into the top sales every single week of every single month. To alienate a big old chunk of your audience to be able to propose something that is not, for the umpteenth time "manga jesus saves the world, his personal issues, and gets the girl." This shit sells. Good for them. I don't want it to be the synopsis of every single manga ever, thank you very much. Not every book is for everyone, this, right here, is a niche work. It works within its niche. The mainstream already has most of the production, do you mind letting things that do not fit in the mainstream survive? Everything is not about being popular "cult classic" is a thing for a reason. It hurts your sensibilities, you dislike it, you dislike its uses of rape and such. Okay. But whatever doesn't fly in your sails will fly in another. I condemn rape and rapists just as much as the next guy, but when it's a fictional rape happening to fictional characters (who really don't look too much like humans in the first place, being very stylized) of a fictional fantasy place, with fictional magical rape powers, I take if for what it is, a trope. It won't make me bat an eyelash, like the design of the apprentice from last chapter did not, like the joke about a 5y.o learning about how to suck cock, and like I wouldn't bat an eyelash to that 5y.o being gruesomely devoured by a monster next chapter. Drawn monstruosities are just that, black lines on white paper. To me at least. I don't claim to be righter than you, or my sensibilities to be better than yours.(though my tastes are definitely superior!) My standards are merely different, and they don't make me a monster. And you could gain to learn that yes, some people have different tastes, and just like you've got works catering to yours, they should get theirs.

Cheap shot : For all that "losing all chance to capture the audience" talk, What manga is in fourth position from the top in "popular manga"?

tl;dr : 1)"Can't use rape for a subversive story" = Bullshit 2) "Loses all hope of capturing the audience" = Your tastes are not the audience's.

 

Sidenote : I (or anyone really) can mock any and everything I want. You can be put-off by that. You can, of course, express your dissatisfaction. Just don't expect me to change anything because you found it offensive.

So what your basically saying is that "If you don't like it, that's your problem". 

I was actually kind of hoping to discuss, but sadly it seems impossible based upon your approach towards mutually discussing.  Which is there isn't one.  Since I never remotely stated  A. For you to change your opinion or B. Express that no one else should like this.  I was simply approaching your discussion as to why it didn't work.

I'd be more than happy to respond, but the fact that you dismiss my opinion as bullshit (as oppose to actually inquiring further upon why my stance is as such) leaves no room for counter opinions or secondary thought since you've clearly stated that you have no desire except to continue to express your own opinion, so I'll just leave it as thank you for the discussion and be off.

OR ya know. Go to fakku ._.

Thanks demulate, sadly FOR ME,  99% of fakku mangas are boring, uninteresting and not entertaining.

Yes Maou no hajimekata is morally wrong but the author/artist made it a really interesting. 

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but I am firmly against any type of censorship in any form.  So I applaud Rapeman Scans for NOT giving in to those who might be offended by their credit page jokes.

 

When it comes to one group of people being offended by something, all I can think about is a quote from Bette Midler, "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!"

 

Censorship has ALWAYS been used as a tool for one group of people to control how other groups of people think and they always use excuses like "It's for the good of the children, people, etc." or "We shouldn't offend such and such group of people."  Both of which are bullshit reasons to hide their true agenda of subjugating others to their way of thinking.

 

So beware of censorship!  History proves that it is ALWAYS an evil tool.

You hit right on the mark though I can't say that it IS ALWAYS an evil tool but it IS an evil tool

People have the freedom to make jokes & express their opinions others should keep an open mind to accept things as they are. Just cuz someone made a joke about something doesn't mean their specifically targeting it.

Like that guy said "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!"  

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but I am firmly against any type of censorship in any form.  So I applaud Rapeman Scans for NOT giving in to those who might be offended by their credit page jokes.

When it comes to one group of people being offended by something, all I can think about is a quote from Bette Midler, "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!"

Censorship has ALWAYS been used as a tool for one group of people to control how other groups of people think and they always use excuses like "It's for the good of the children, people, etc." or "We shouldn't offend such and such group of people."  Both of which are bullshit reasons to hide their true agenda of subjugating others to their way of thinking.

So beware of censorship!  History proves that it is ALWAYS an evil tool.

"Do you know a girl called Marybelle? A blonde girl of four or five years,"

I give. I totally missed that part (not that I re-read the chapter just to be sure if her age was mentioned).

The problem is this.

 

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Subsersive stories can be fantastic.  However, there needs to be a form of balance.  The problem being rape.  Rape is universally acknowledged as a grotesquely heinous act (and in a lot of stories makes a character far, far worse than a murderer) and once committed is hard to portray any character with sympathy, empathy, or compassion.  Once a line has been crossed, they cease to be relatable and become a monster in our eyes.  While fitting for this story, it also loses any remote chance of capturing the audience since now they have crossed that line.

 

Of course, this is just my two cents.

And it's your right to have those thoughts, and to express them, and I can respect that, but G*D...

tl;dr : 1)"Can't use rape for a subversive story" = Bullshit 2) "Loses all hope of capturing the audience" = Your tastes are not the audience's.

Sidenote : I (or anyone really) can mock any and everything I want. You can be put-off by that. You can, of course, express your dissatisfaction. Just don't expect me to change anything because you found it offensive.

I've had credits pages mocking everyone from merchants to Basketball Americans to SJWs to Muslims, I'm not going to start self-censoring now just because some precious snowflakes get feelshurt or something. Though it is somewhat interesting that none of those other groups really complained about my previous credits pages, guess Muslims are just the specialest of snowflakes judging from the amount of tears I'm getting on my blog and seeing posted elsewhere other than batoto.

You are awesome and I'd buy you a drink if you were ever in town.

This manga is a good rpg eroge material!! Eushully should definitely develop this!!
Eushully should definitely develop this!!