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You know, you can just write the house towards them instead "and while fid and helene waited, the house made it's way over to them post haste"

Just my two cents as someone younger... Mind you I'm by far not the youngest here, but I'm one of the younger people here :3

words kill if actions differ, I'd rather have someone do something nice for me than saying nice things while leeching <noun> off of me.

Any leeching is bad, really, just make sure both people in a relationship can exist as stable, self-sustaining people. Then no leeching is needed and the relationship is that much more sturdy.

*very serious ranty thing but still an opinion*

Really, the mistake I made was getting into a relationship where (I myself too, but esplecially) the other person was having mental issues. Hence leeching social energy and too much attention from me.

This was when I was about 16, and like, it seems pretty common around that age with certain types of people. Still, if you don't recognize that, and stop yourself, it can very well leave you to parttake in a series of different unstable relationships, and eventually leave you without any idea what love is anymore <.<

My favorite quote about love goes like so:

"you go and give 100% excpecting nothing in return, that's what love is. If I give anything less until I am 'sure' that the other party loves me, that's only selfish."

not a literal qoute, but ohwell <.<

So yeah, make sure though that both parties are able to give 100% atleast sometimes! >.>

Some friend of mine had his parents divorce, like.

Him and his sister told their mum to leave, since the dad was being unstable. (brought home weapons bought with his son's money or smth, treated all household members like objects/property)

Keeping vows is good, but like Taka (Yaomo) said, children's safety goes first! =/

Hey guys,

Horn and I had a little chat about stuff and things. Basically, it's a drag to click all the links on a torrent page. Here's two pieces of code that will make it more convenient:

Tokyo Toshokan (www.tokyotosho.info) link. Magnets ALL torrents on the result page.

javascript:(function(){var nodes = document.querySelectorAll(".sprite_magnet"); var i = 0; var timer = window.setInterval(function(){window.location.assign(nodes[i].parentNode.getAttribute("href")); i++; if(!(i < nodes.length)){window.clearInterval(timer)}}, 1000)})()

Nyaa link (www.nyaa.se) link. Downloads all torrents on the result page.

javascript:(function(){var nodes = document.querySelectorAll(".tlistdownload a"); var i = 0; var timer = window.setInterval(function(){window.location.assign(nodes[i].getAttribute("href")); i++; if(!(i < nodes.length)){window.clearInterval(timer)}}, 1000)})()

How to use these links:

- Make a new bookmark, and add this code in the "location" field of the bookmark. Save it.

- Then click it when you have the right website's result page opened.

- It will "click" all present magnet links for you.

The links are activated at about 1 per second, so that in most cases server lag will not be an issue.

I'll be adding one more bookmark tool later, but that one will take more work.

NOTE: These are tested in Firefox, I cannot guarantee that they work in other browsers.

Greetings,

Nevy

I really do hope I'm allowed to post code like this. Been a while since I read the forum rules...?

This is worthy of a double post because... here's my Challenge response.

I introduced myself and read from a book. I'll do the others later,

Spoiler

I don't want no one judgin', ya hear? most of you know what I sound like anyway. Peace out bro.

Nice French, great English, (I did understand your french, that might... be bad, 'cuz I am bad at french )

LOL, everyone with the bad pages

I had fantasy words, Rob had swedish, You had... this

My post looked a bit long so I'm putting it all in a spoiler~

Spoiler

 

damn you have a nice singing voice.   
 
 

You sound so cute! And fluent. I wish I sounded as smooth as you do. x}
 

oh wow~ You sound energetic. : D

Really different from what I Imagined.
Can't wait to hear you say the challenges.
 

Mann your audio was pretty funny. xD "Every freaking word in the bible" hahahahha

And I love the second oneeeeeeee

Heey, don't I get a reactio- oh, you were THAT stunned? <.<

https://soundcloud.com/itano123/wtf-was-that

bcs why the hell not

it screws up a bit mid way through but oh well.

Spoiler

 

a little extra for Mushi after i tried so hard to deny saying it

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lPlM6ZcVQk

It's one of the deadliest places 'cuz you live there <.<

You're very conscise in your pronounciation, I like!

 

 

 

Here's mine:

 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1iDiSTYsOwT

 

Now there's an accent I never heard before, cool :3

YES I LISTENED TO PEOPLE IN A RANDOM ORDER

SORRY

YOUTUBE HYPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE-LBgrA0cE

I did batoto chanllenges before

YanYan for Female Trap

(I am forced to to tell you guys that she didn't force me)

Name: Karl "Chip" Frederikson

Location: [Detainment Facility]

Time" [XX:XX]

Chip slowly openend his eyes. Making sure not to make any sound or conspicuous movement. Something... Something or Someone had hit him. For the love of all that's not too bad, what was going on? Was it time to panic?

Looking up from the floor, he saw Vici's face. Too close, way too close for comfort.

But he remained silent, waiting. Rule number one of being the new guy, and rule number one of being physically weaker than most other people present, both dictated that he remain silent, and unmoving.

"Now that you've seen how your people operates under the shadow.. Are you willing to join my cause? Together, we will start a revolution."

No, it was not time to panic yet. Not enough information was given. Obviously, this person had some agenda of their own. Surely, most people here would understand that Eric was... Well, one of a kind, really. Well, no matter, Haseo seemed to be thinking on a good level. And given all the circumstances, the floor was probably a good place to stay for now.

Then a thought struck him, there was one possibility to get out and call for help... Maybe... What if-

He looked up once again, and tried to signal Vici with his eyes.

"K-E-E-P H-E-R B-U-S-Y. W-H-A-T L-I-E-S B-E-L-O-W U-S?"

And so, Karl kept laying down, like a good, unconscious person would, except this unconscious body did a lot of signaling...

Finally found time and inspiration.

This is an early concept art, but honestly, idk if I'm ever gonna finish anything related to this D:

This was made in a weird way, since I don't have a tablet.

1. Draw with pencil and paper

2. Scan and load.

3. Inkscape, manual tracing.

Looks good at first sight, but has all kinds of minor issues. But that's enough work for tonight..

love is the other side of hate.

both are a passion to live or die for.

both are a reason to kill.

or to rape.

and pillage.

and sell your soul to the devil.

however brutal that sounds...

I have to agree, nothing to add O__O

hahahahaa, it's just a terminology yan, =)

Nah, I'm with YanYan on this one, I like humans more... D:

About localization...

if I had ever waited "until the product was available in my language" I'd be stuck with one or two mainstream anime, some kids' series. And NOTHING to read. literally.

let alone webtoons.

I know I'm almost fluent in english, but to quote the worldwide organization Jagex:

"Dutch is simply too specific and small of a language to do more than a bit of support on the side"

So, Naver, I dare you, find a decent Korean > Dutch translator, or give my my batoto scanlations back QAQ

Comrade Mirko

[Out on the Streets - South End]

Bloody hands... Pain... What?... The van!

Mirko turned around, only to see Ben being assaulted by the horde of zombies. he seemed to hold them off for now, btu not for long. Mirko looked around, and saw his baseball bat laying around.

"Well, here goes nothing... RAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

With the last shout, Mirko charged into the chaos, in search for Ben and his stuff. A splatter left, a stab right, crush a jaw here, some broken ribs there. Mayhem all in all. But he made it. he grabbed his backpack, his friend, and some loose chemicals.

"And now, we BAIL"

And from then, it was just feet hammering the asphalt, heading east.

Have fun trying to figure out what happens next. All I will say, is that their are layers. A lot of chefs trying to cook in one kitchen.

Ogres are like onions...

They have layers.

Comrade Mirko

[Out on the Streets - South End]

Somehow, through all the chaos, Mirko had found a way out onto the street. Behind him, the rumour and shouting from 'The old victorian' intensified as it flooded with flames, zombies and flaming zombies.

"AS SOON AS YOU GET OUTSIDE, HEAD EAST!! HEAD FOR THE GUN STORE, AND THE GAS STATION!!", he heard from somewhere back at the bar.

The gas station, East. Mirko made sure to remember this useful bit of information, but as he did so he realized that he had forgotten something else.

"BENJAMIN!... SHIT...", He had forgotten all about his friend for a while. " BEN!?!"

"Here... Mirko."

Mirko jolted with surprise as someone slammed a hand on his shoulder, and it took him a while to recognize the panic-stricken face that looked at him.

"I... Here...", the face, belonging to his friend Benjamin said, as he handed him his baseball bat and his backpack.

"Thanks, Ben." Mirko replied once he had recognized his friend, "Now, TO THE VAN, LET'S GO!"

Without wasting any time, Mirko dragged Benjamin along towards the company van. The van was one of the kind you see for small transports, except this one was mainly filled with all kinds of safety measures related to chemicals. In addition, the driver's cover was taken out, so that the driver and passenger could access the cargo bay without getting out of the car. This was done for when a safety suit should be worn before leaving the vehicle.

Mirko and Benjamin entered the van from the cargo bay, and from there Mirko put himself behind the wheel, while Benjamin settled himself in the passenger seat.

"Nah, Ben, you go at the back." Mirko said, "I'm gonna do a drive-by. On my mark, you open the van, and let the nice people in. If they try to bite or shoot, close the doors and signal me."

After Benjamin had positioned himself yet again, Mirko manouvred the car closer to the mayhem, and signaled Ben.

"Okay, let em in!"

OOC

In regard of Copy-RIGHT, let's see...

"Derivative works" and stuff, actually, Batoto is hosted in the Netherlands, EU. Take note of this, it's very important.

In the EU, (I dunno how USA is) there's a "fair use" clause to the copyright system. Under "Fair Use" falls a category named "Parody" and this is what DJ's fall under. Another's own interpretation of an original work. Besides that, DJ's are accepted and sold at regular Anime/Manga cons. <props to Socrates for also pointing this out>

Copyright infringement is a law that was placed to make sure that: YOU WOULD NOT COPY AN ORIGINAL WORK AND SELL IT AS YOUR OWN.

that is, e.g.

When I copy a CD, Manga, Software, whatever, copy it, put my name on it, and sell it. That's the two parts:

1. My name on something I did not make, claiming it is my own.

2. The original work redistributed FOR PROFIT.

Most DJ's (as far as my understanding goes) do neither of this, in the moderate intrepetation of copyright, they are perfectly fine. A simple "credits"-like page should be enough to legalize most DJ's.

If there is profit involved, then they should legally enter into contract with the original mangaka, and pay them a percentage, or they should be fined.

This is more or less like like how the music industry generally allows reintrepetation and remixes, provided that you do not use the complete original work itself.

Moreover, one could argue that each and every translation/scanlation is a re-intrepetation (though that might be stretching it). That is, until someone gets a license, an official claim on a translation in a specific language.

Lastly, please remember some things about copyright:

1. It is an old law, from before the internet was a thing, it was mainly made to cover re-selling originals (or selling/giving copies of that away). Under no circumstance was it meant to stop any attempt at creativity.

2. The copyright law is not one-sided, it grants several rights, like self-owned backup copies, and the right to parody.

3. Even when translating/DJ'ing or even translating a DJ is (debatable, corner cased) infringing this copyright, and the owner IS actually experiencing trouble, then they have the right to contact the people, and talk it out. Or inform the authorities and have them talking it out.

Now, I know that in good ol' 'murica thing are more complex than this, but until recently, the Netherlands was actually so lenient (since CopyRIGHT law is actually pretty lenient in the way it can be explained, in spite of the fact companies nowadays seem to think it's basically a thing to beat people to death with) that you could download any movie or sound without any trouble. That last part changed under pressure from bigger countries though.

This is on topic of MAKING DJ's

Now then. Batoto DOES SEEM to actually not upload licensed stuff. Take Fairy Tail, it's not uploaded anymore because a translation company has a license for that. Just so, Automata is not updated anymore, because it was licensed (or requested by the author, I can't fully remember). So yeah, when someone goed to batoto and asks this, then yeah it will be solved.

Yes, there are people going around translating anything they can. Even outside the Manga industry, the self-made and self-hosted webcomics I know of usually have atleast a translation in spanish, and you know what? They are GRATEFUL. Also, however many friends you have, you cannot claim that ALL DJka's want to keep low profile. Or that MOST have a credit page saying to not redistrubute outside Japan. First, numbers, then assumptions, not the other way 'round. Indeed, I doubt they ALL do. Looking at all the other creative businesses, people want to SHOW their PROUD, EFFORTFUL work. So win-win when someone translates your work in that case!

Even if they do have these wishes on their page, let's say they ALL do. How, then, can you level that with your claim that they are illegal? If something is illegal, then all rights on it are forfeit. You have to choose here.

Either we recognize DJ's as legit creations within fair use (As I do). Then we can discuss about the DJka's wishes and rules.

Or we assume that the DJ itself is counterfeit/illegal, in which case all of the DJka's wishes are null and void.

This is to counter your reasoning.

The funny thing is, in the SECOND case, there is no claim, and anyone can freely scanlate, as much as the DJka could create the DJ. because the state of illegalty stays the same, and the DJka has no claim whatsoever.

In the FIRST case, we can justify scanlating any work WITHOUT wishes, by the same way we justify scanlating originals. IF they however DO have wishes, they have al lthe right to speak up for themselves. Oh, but wait, they don't speak english? Well, guess what, a translator speaks, or atleast reads japanese, so that's not an issue!

In ALL of these cases the responsibility lies with the scanlator group, and not Batoto. If Batoto is notified that something is not wanted up, then they WILL take it down, or notify involved people. (that is what my experience shows me, like with Automata and Fairy Tail).

Now you claim:

"There's a difference between original works and fan works"

There's not, as I have proven in above text, the ONLY way you can say anything about DJ's specifically, is if you recognize them as legit creations. And thus, they ARE the same as original works: Legit creations.

But that's not all, some DJ's are done by the original mangaka's (I remember discussing that earlier this week, I think it was with our Ranting Swede / Horn). This fact further confuses the claim that there are two distinctly separate objects, while in reality there is but a vague distinction at most. DJ's are not allowed to make money unles a part goes, under agreement, to the original's creator. But that does not make it less of an original creation. (Taking in account all I said before).

So, to conclude in short:

1. DJ's cannot be viewed as illegal. That would get rid of the whole discussion as plain "both DJ's and all translations of them are counterfeit".

2. Thus follows that you have to assume they are legit creations under fair use, if you want to discuss this.

3. When you assume this, then in one part, there is no problem (when the DJka has NO wishes).

4. When the DJka has wishes, it is certainly not impossible to contact people. And on top of that, Batoto is not responsible.

5. As said before, DJ's are not all that different from originals.

Now, I believe I repeated a lot of people, and I probably even repeated myself.

Also, before you go assuming stuff, I have ransacked over copyright from more angles than most of you have, in several hobbyist AND work-related environments. I would really appreciate if people would try to understand what a LAW is trying to ACCOMPLISH rather than what COMPANIES are trying to MAKE IT SAY. but I already pointed that out at the start of my post.

Alas, hope everyone had fun reading. Please, if I missed some points, or only grasped half facts, by all means tell me~

Greetz,

Nevy