Doonge

Speaking of statistic , currently on 11-2016 the male:female ratio roughly on the world is 1:4(actually 3,75223)

lol.

citation needed.

We evolved as a paranoid species (as most species) - fear can be life-saving. Especially on the long time. Being fearless means being out of the gene pool.

A mammal hear some noise out of some bush, he will flee. Perhaps it's the wind, perhaps it's a predator.

You look at the cost of fear-induced actions (not getting money for driving a black client for instance), and the gain (not being mugged and losing your car for instance), and their respective probabilities.

Also, we are very visual creatures. We are very good at stereotyping (stereotyping is not 100% accurate, but generally quite accurate, for instance we have a quite efficient "gaydar").

We have to learn not to be afraid of "the other" only if it's worth it. If you look at the stats, blacks suffer from stereotyping and frisk policies, but they also commit a disproportionate amount of crimes. Now, a random citizen hasn't much reason to be afraid most of the time, as he's diving in a social network that he knows and that is hopefully already filtering thugs (of all colors). But taxi drivers and cops do not know who they are dealing with. Stereotyping is not perfect, but it's heavily useful when you know nothing about who you deal with. As soon as you are getting acquainted with individuals, stereotype lose their interest and people naturally do not rely on them.

Bottom line is: in the absence of information, people will be racist or whatever (they will rely on their stereotype, that generally prove to be accurate), and believing stereotypes and fear are always counterproductive is stupid.

If you live next to thugs, you're no middle class. Unless California has thugs everywhere. But if you live in the shittiest neighborhood, you're at the bottom of the city.

A lowerclass american might earn more than a middleclass from a third world country for instance, in term of raw money, but that doesn't make him upper class.

Lastly, I would say that you suffer from the same problem (in my view) than udarnel. By being oversensitive to something, you begin to become it. You'd be afraid of Jews and Black demonization for instance, but you'd not be below demonizing those you perceive as demonizator, or at least blind to those who commit it (thus giving them undue influence over you).

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/(it's a blog of a democrat/libertarian jewish psychiatrist)

@udarnel

We have discussed a lot already. And I think I've written a lot in your thread overall. Convincing you that you are racist doesn't sound appealing to me.

I don't see what you're talking about patronizing victims, if you refer to my previous comment it was not adressed to you.

I think police work is made more stressing with citizen having weapons, and it has consequences. The trigger-happy things you talk about. I think that police force has a good training. Of course I have seen police brutality (even hideous police set ups of honest black american, thankfully there are camrecorder on police cars, in russia there's camrecorder on most cars even citizens'). I also have seen great restraint and professionalism from policemen. Where there are high social tensions and dangerous criminality, well you will find the police being tense. I don't think for instance that police is trigger happy in rural towns with armed citizen yet low crime.

Military style assault weapon is meaningless. You have plenty of guns that you can customize to be really deadly. Either you ban almost everything for your argument to make sense, or you don't. Your sister's children have to get in the bathtub whether what they hear is an automatic weapon or not. And if your sister lives in such a shithole, I guess you're not middle class, but more like a temporarily embarassed millionaire.

I agree that there is profiling done by the police. Staying away from police, why do you think black men can't get a cab in some places when it's dark (if that's true)? Do you believe cab drivers need training? Would it make economic sense?

By the way, racism is not recognizing there's a physical difference (are you a racist if you notice there are blondes and brunettes?), it's telling: hey, those persons are different, then they are shit.

Which is exactly what you're doing. Which is why you are a racist. Tell me, do you think whites are racists?

As for India, you didn't read, maybe, about that village whose elders gang raped a woman of the village all night along because she got engaged to a man from a neighboring village... And what about that shittiest costume of burning the wife alive when the husband dies? And it's not only women, but children too.

You read what you want to read, and you draw the conclusions you want to draw. Shit happens, but that's not because it does that it is the norm. Rapists, and especially pedophiles, are considered the scum of the earth by everyone, including hard criminal in prison. Pedophiles are killed in prison by their inmates. You just want to believe you're noble because you stand for women and that you're alone in this, but you're wrong. And it makes you sexist.

Your comment about gun control and mass shooting in school is so ridiculous I'm now wondering if you're a troll or a brainwashed person. We have gun control in Europe, and we have shootings. In the grand scheme of things, mass shootings in schools are horrifying but account for a negligible amount of victims. There's an obscene amount of victims in the ghettos, but you don't care apparently as you care for the newstories with mass appeal, like an horrific rape in India or a school shooting. Did you fall for the Rolling Stone's Jackie story? It sure was crunchy.

You care when a white cop kills a black person, but I bet you don't care when whites kill each others or black kills each others. And I bet you don't care when a black cop kill a white guy.

According to wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_conquer

 

The divide and conquer strategy was used by foreign countries in Africa during the colonial and post-colonial period.

• Germany and Belgium ruled Rwanda and Burundi in a colonial capacity. Germany used the strategy of divide and conquer by placing members of the already dominant Tutsi minority in positions of power. When Belgium took over colonial rule in 1916, the Tutsi and Hutu groups were rearranged according to race instead of occupation. Belgium defined "Tutsi" as anyone with more than ten cows or a long nose, while "Hutu" meant someone with less than ten cows and a broad nose. The socioeconomic divide between Tutsis and Hutus continued after independence and was a major factor in the Rwandan Genocide.

 

My point is that the race usually is a cover for class. Critics of trump (and defenders of trump) usually point to race issues, when they should be talking about class. But you can't talk about class, at least not in the US. The so called "liberal media" will go on and on about race conflicts, but not the underlying class conflicts. The "conservative media" will point to the "liberal medium" and called them out for their hypocrisy, which is correct, but they won't talk about class conflicts either. 

I agree.

But the reason is obvious.