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My favorite part of batoto was coming to read manga and not seeing "MangaPanda", "ReadManga.Today", "Mangahere.com" and things of that nature. I have yet to find another site that bypasses those obnoxious leeches as well as batoto did.

I wonder if there's some kind of scanlation team directory? I always end up going to manga-sites like these, rather than the scanlation team websites, because I can never find them in searches without knowing exactly what to look for. Maybe it already exists and I'm just not aware of it.

Whatever the case, best wishes with your future endeavors.

EDIT: OMG, post above mine used the word 'endeavors' too! I was posting this from page 1...

i've been reading manga from manga viewing site since 8 years ago since my high school times. Many sites come and goes, my journey from onemanga to batoto. It sadden me that one of the best manga viewing site have to end. Thanks for everything, i hope your decision will bring good luck to your life. Godspeed

Yeah, my manga-reading experience really began with onemanga.com. When that shut down ages ago, I used mangafox for a while (but it just wasn't the same) until I stumbled across batoto. I switched over with practically no hesitation (I think Purple Library Guy did too, see his post above). I don't know what the next great manga site will be, we'll have to keep our eyes open. If anyone spots a manga site that's particularly notable, mention it here.

I've been using MangaPark a little. I like how you can pick different versions of the translated manga. Sometimes I go through and even find a version that doesn't have leech websites' logos plastered all over the pages... usually not, though.

Just as the title said, try to recommend other people your fav manga by using 1 page/picture of that manga. Remember, only 1 picture, so choose it carefully. Well, this seems a bit unfair for webtoons so maybe u can spend a bit more time cropping the panel/page that u wanna show and remember to use the spoiler tag. Don't forget to leave the names of the manga either.
For example:

Shamo

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Shibatora

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Berserk

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Shin Angyo Onshi

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P.S: I know this stuff will take some extra time but please do your best and make this thread awesome! My 1st thread btw

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But that was an honest mistake. After seeing Rikku's reaction when he talked about his background, Tidus decided to keep things to himself. Not to mention, remember that before this scene Tidus had been attacked by Sin, been thrown overboard, and then woke up after being hit by a blitzball in the middle of the ocean. Do you really think that a momentary slip of the mind is that big of a deal after such a traumatic event?

This example is largely different from the way you described Tidus in this post, which is why I replied to it in the first place

Tidus follows the situation well. I also don't remember any times when he acted ignorantly. Yes, he's not famliar with the customs of Spira; he arrived just yesterday. But he had no problem respecting their laws and tradition whenever they DIDN'T conflict with his beliefs.

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First of all, it's your view of Tidus as "meaningless" that makes me seriously doubt your experience with FFX. I went out of my way to point to specific instances where Tidus left a huge impact in the plot, but you haven't resonded to any of those points. Lets also remember that the game's point of view revolves solely around Tidus (up until his death), so common sense would dictate the the entirety of FFX's plot would be strongly entertwined with his own story. So yes, it's his story.

As far as Tidus's existence goes, there's a possibility that he existed long ago in the universe that Yuna and co lives in right now. It's possible that he was killed once by Yu Yevon and Sin and then was recreated (along with his dad and other people) in the dreams of the fayth. But neither of us are well-informed about this topic so I doubt we'll reach any conclusion. In any case, his existence is grayish - there's no clear reason why he existed in the dream Zanarkand in the first place.

Going to your reasoning, Yuna would not be more fitting as the main character because of her past. Remember that the plot of FFX is one of people standing up against a corrupt and age-old system and solving things in their own way. Yuna had grown up brain-washed by the rituals of Yu Yevon. She was completely fixated on finishing her pilgrimage the same way her father had, and she was ready to sacrifice her life for a mere 10 years of peace. But instead her party decides to destroy the system by killing lady Yunalesca (in other words, the only method of obtaining the final aeon).There's only three characters who's backstory would fit these rebellious actions:
Rikku - An Al Bhed, who thought that Yevonism was bogus from the start
Auron - A former guardian, who KNEW that Yevonism was bogus from experience
Tidus - From a completely different world, doesn't agree with the practices of Yevonism because they conflict with his beliefs

But to end this discussion once and for all, let's talk about the theme of irony. It's ironic that Braska's party, which consisted of a crazy drunk from Zanarkand (Jecht), a discharged imperial soldier (Auron), and a heretic with an Al Bhed wife (Braska) were the saviours to bring peace to Spira. It's ironic that Tidus, who's father(Jecht) had constantly been a mentally oppressive existence, comes to a new world only to deal with him as a physical and lethal presence(Sin). It's ironic that Auron and Tidus, the biggest roleplayers in the plan to overthrow Sin, work as mere guardians in Yuna's party. The fact that Tidus (as the main character) acts as a follower is nothing but a beautiful irony.

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You wrote things that were blatantly false about FFX (no matter what your understanding was). I prove them wrong with some examples. Then you get angry at me and say that you were talking about something completely different in your posts.

Yeah, I was definitely overstepping my boundaries with this one

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Let me debate your argument with your own argument. So Tidus and co. fight to the death with Seymour. In their wounded state, would you expect them to have the strength to deal with an entire army afterwards?

Did this start because i said ''Tidus and Yuna are the best romance couple in FF'' if so i apologies,
but if you guys are having fun then keep it coming.

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I was talking about this post. This is also the post that I responded to, and the post you complained about me responding to. So why bring up an entirely unrelated post into this discussion? This post, unlike the other post that you brought up, is clearly not subjective and IS subject to debate

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Can't believe I'm actually responding to this, but this post is gonna be long anyways so whatever. My belief that you hadn't played FFX was simply my opinion. I clearly bolded out the parts where I said "It makes me difficult to believe" or "in my honest opinion". I was never saying that I knew whether or not you played FFX. I was simply stating my opinion. If you can't tell the difference between an accusation and that then I don't know what to say.

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What this proves is that you're clearly lacking knowledge about this topic. You just stated something that's completely false about Tidus, not to mention you tried to use it in your own argument. I'm fine with debating over the kind of character he is, but until you start to actually give real examples without just saying generalities like "Tidus acts without thinking" we really can't go anywhere.

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lolwut. Yuna's the main character of FFX? Are you talking about FFX-2? Yuna is more connected (than Tidus) to the actual events of the plot? I'm starting to wonder if this is even worth arguing anymore.

But I'll answer this again just for the hell of it

Main premise of FFX: (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Jecht)
"Jecht eventually manages to assert some control and make his way to Dream Zanarkand, where he communicates with the now-unsent Auron and transports him and Tidus to Spira, hoping that Tidus would be able to find a way to destroy Sin for good where he had failed."

Conclusion: He does

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Ok. Then don't put things like this:

Or could it be that you're just switching your words around in order to not look dumb? Hard to tell.

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I think my problem is what you wrote in this post:

1st fight with Seymour - Yuna can't send him because they get chased out by guards
2nd fight with Seymour - Seymour vanishes after the battle
3rd fight with Seymour - Seymour vanishes after the battle
4th fight with Seymour - Tidus and co. weaken Seymour enough so that Yuna can finally send him

Also, remember when Yuna tried to send Seymour again but she couldn't continue because the maesters threatened to kill Tidus and the other guardians?

BTW, Tidus and co. wanted to take care of Seymour every time that they met. It's just that they were unable to, and they weren't going to take time from their mission to find and dispose of a dead guy.

“What's meant to be will always find a way”
― Trisha Yearwood

I don't think this is how this works.

That's a really good one, don't we all wish the bad times will happen to someone else?

Ok I'm going to leave the cat out the bag.

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All fking mmos are the same, they want you to go level by level dungeon by dungeon giving you the same freaking things all over again with slightly different concept, colors or names and hope you don't get bored. And when you do get bored and move to another game you notice that even though its a different game its still the same as another you had played some time ago

If there was an mmorpg where player characters would die for real and have to start all over again I would definitely want to play it.
If there was an mmorpg with inovating features I would definitely try it.

Aw, we all know that! It's no big secret! That's pretty much the state of MMOs today, now that WoW's set such a bland, money-making standard.

Not sure what caused all those Asian games to look like clones of each other though. Final Fantasy XI, maybe? That was big over there, right? I've never played it, so I have no freaking clue.

To quote many an old-school rpg, "lawful evil". I think the importance of the point outweighs any "nitpickiness" involved. There is a vast difference between one who is seen as evil and one who lacks any sort of code. The latter simply doesn't exist. Even if they don't follow any government in the world they shall still do as their nature tells them.

In my honest opinion, who truely has the right to say what justice truely is? One person's definition of justice is, most of the time, different from another's. Everyone views it in their own way. Another reason, is how can one truely tell right from wrong? Again, it varies from person to person, it all depends on the values they live their life by. So once more, justice is viewed differently, its all a matter of how you or anyone else sees it.

thats all I gotta say.

People often talk as though crime, famine, inequality, etc. are just facts of life, when they don't really have to be. As long as we continue to think of them as things that must exist, we'll never get rid of them.

Hello all, can I reply in a while? There has been a lot of work to do recently.

I think so too! I think it’s rare to have great manga with great endings.. Do mangaka enjoy so much ending their work like shit so much? Though, this is just my point of view, not everyone’s.

My favorite completed manga are 666 Satan and Sundome.

Aha, I completely understand! Here I was struggling to define the concept just for the sake of defining it, while you're more interested in actually utilizing it for a practical purpose! I like you.

In the broad sense of crime punishment/prevention, I'm definitely on the team that supports prevention. And I truly believe the best method for that is education. Well, education and better living conditions. Most of the world's crime is born of poverty and desperation. But I think even white collar crime and maybe, hopefully, neo-colonialistic exploitation could be prevented with more comprehensive education. The mindset that it's alright to take advantage of those beneath you so you can gain more personal wealth isn't "human nature", it's something that has to be learned. And if something can be learned, then it can just as easily be changed to the point where it can't be learned, right?

Heh. Well, I realize what a big lofty dream that is. Maybe once I've taken over the world...

(By the way, by "education" I do not mean rote memorization of mathematics and grammar rules or whatever. I mean the kind of education that encourages actual thinking and doesn't take an ethnocentric approach to history and politics.)

I've always been bad at explaining things =P Then let's say that the father and the child witnessed it by themselves...
I don't mind, I'm actually happy that you guys are interested with my rubbish

That's what forum threads are all about, right? Listening to each other's rubbish? =P