The Friendly Winter Discussion
#1
Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:44 PM
Thanks for bringing this to us Supreme Cream Scanlations, hopefully everybody can discuss away here.
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#2
Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:17 PM
so in chapter 12 we learn that she isnĀ“t his real mom.
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#3
Posted 22 August 2012 - 12:38 AM
True, definitely not his biological mother, still, there's some relation. On one hand her co-worker says he's no relation at all, but on the other hand she accuses her own father of not accepting Min-Seong as his grandson. Soooo, I'm not entirely sure. Maybe the co-worker is just wrong and Min-Seong is actually her nephew that she's adopted from an older sibling who abandoned him at their father's insistence.I am also really liking this series.
so in chapter 12 we learn that she isnĀ“t his real mom.
I think there's still a lot more behind both Min-Seong's situation and the family situation of Da-Jeong and her mother.
Edited by svines85, 27 August 2012 - 04:51 AM.
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#4
Posted 22 August 2012 - 12:53 AM
True, definitely not his biological mother, still, there's some relation. On one hand her co-worker says he's no relation at all, but on the other hand she accuses her own father of not accepting Min-Seong as his grandson. Soooo, I'm not entirely sure. Maybe the co-worker is just wrong and Min-Seong is actually her nephew that she's adopted from an older sibling who abandoned him at their father's insistence.
it could be that her sister abandoned Min-Seong and his dad died and thats why she is taking care of him.
#5
Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:31 AM
#6
Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:50 AM
it could be that her sister abandoned Min-Seong and his dad died and thats why she is taking care of him.
You're right, Min-Seong's mom did say she was "a widow with a child". Still, her reaction to her own father and her saying Min-Seong feared being "abandoned again".....I don't know, maybe that "abandoment" she's referring to is that of his grandfather and the rest of their extended family. Could be.....I really don't know for sure, there seems to be a number of ways it could still be. A very good story so far.Or she had married a guy with a little son and the husband died not long after, leaving her with a stepson...
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#7
Posted 22 August 2012 - 04:47 AM
A really good story so far, indeed. It rings quite true, as I remember in Dr Frost manhwa, when he was working the case of the girl with panic disorder, he mentioned that in Korean Society, any mental illness carries a very heavy stigma. I have also noticed it in the United States, as well. The mental hospitals in the state of California used to be quite easy to get children into, without the families paying. This lead to many parents of disabled children from all economic classes abandoning their children there. A college friend of mine used to work in the field of Thanatology, counseling people with terminal diseases and their families. At UCLA Medical Center, she was horrified by the number of children in the terminal ward whose families never visited, claiming that seeing their child was "too painful." There are a lot of people in this world who must live within their perceived comfort zone, and for them it is easier to abandon a child, spouse, sibling, or invalid parent and then carry on as though nothing happened than it is for them to take any sort of responsibility they find disturbing. It always seems to be the disabled, invalid, or the person who, for their age or any other reason cannot care for him/herself, ends up paying for this. Neither Ja-Deong nor Min-Seong have their disabilities by choice. Anyone who abandons someone like that over what others will perceive or just because it's inconvenient, has no right to be a parent or ever take any moral high ground whatever. If the child is uncontrollable, violent, or predatory, it is a very different matter, but that is not the case here. I remember someone once being asked in an interview what he thought his best quality was (pretty stupid question, IMHO) and he said, "I never let down anyone who trusted me, not even a dog." I would rather try to live my life that way.
Edited by Comadrin, 26 August 2013 - 05:31 AM.
#8
Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:52 AM
That might well be the case here in this story too. I guess we'll learn more, I really think there's more than just that going on, at least in the case of Da-Jeong and her mother. I'm not saying resentment towards her daughter and her condition wasn't the case (heck, she point blank told her young daughter exactly that) but something about that farewell conversation made me think mom was holding back too. I certainly doubt it's going to vindicate her, but well, I guess we'll see sooner or later.A really good story so far, indeed. I rings quite true, as I remember in Dr Frost manhwa, when he was working the case of the girl with panic disorder, he mentioned that in Korean Society, any mental illness carries a very heavy stigma.
But yeah, at least so far, in the case of Min-Seong, that seems like it might be a big part of the grandfather's issue.
Edited by svines85, 27 August 2012 - 04:52 AM.
#9
Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:44 AM
#10
Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:12 PM
yeah, you're right. So I guess that leaves her being his step mother? She married the man who was Min-Seong's father and then he......I don't know, passed away? Then her own family turned their back on her?oh forget what I said about her sister being the mother, in chapter 12 it is said that she and Min-Seong donĀ“t share the same blood.
By the way, I'm kinda wondering if this isn't going to be a mutual thing between Min-Seong's mom and Ja-Deong's mother, being step-mothers that is. It seems most likely Da-Jeong's mother is actually Minseo's step-mother, not her biological mother (unless she was an even worse person than she looks like right now). I mean, she abandoned her family 10 years ago and Minseo is like, what, 15-16?
Edited by svines85, 27 August 2012 - 04:53 AM.
#11
Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:28 PM
By the way, I'm kinda wondering if this isn't going to be a mutual thing between Min-Seong's mom and Ja-Deong's mother, being step-mothers that is. It seems most likely Ja-Deong's mother is actually Minseo's step-mother, not her biological mother (unless she was an even a worse person than she looks like right now. I mean, she abandoned her family 10 years ago and Minseo is like, what, 15-16?
with Minseo you mean the girl that goes to school right? if yes, then that would explain why minseo said that her mother is more like her friend.
#12
Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:39 PM
Yeah, exactly, I think I got her name right. Oh, yeah, you're right. I hadn't really thought about that, they do kind of have the "friend" thing going on, don't they? I never thought about that, she just calls her mom and so did her school friends, so at first I thought she was her "real" mother. I must have blipped over her saying that they were like friends....>_<with Minseo you mean the girl that goes to school right? if yes, then that would explain why minseo said that her mother is more like her friend.
#13
Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:13 AM
I think svines85 has puzzled out the Ja-Deong, her mother, mother's new daughter relationship.
I am really enjoying this. I'm almost glad I waited for a while though, because it was fun getting a raft of chapters in one gulp.
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#14
Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:19 AM
#15
Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:26 AM
Edited by svines85, 27 August 2012 - 04:53 AM.
#16
Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:33 AM
I think Min-seong's stepmom's father (the one who came to see her at work) might have done something to Min-seong after Min-seong's dad died, so he could free his daughter from the burden of raising her dead husband's son. Maybe he left Min-seong at an institution, like Purple Library Guy said.
Edited by Passerby, 24 August 2012 - 03:48 AM.
#17
Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:12 AM
>___<Da-jeong, not Ja-deong, guys..
And I always try to be sooo careful with names.......
#18
Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:06 PM
(all your fault svines85; I checked your post before I put in the name. See if I trust you again! )
Meanwhile, yes, I'm pretty sure we'll see more backstory on that. For instance, I'm wondering who that girl is that Min-Seong vaguely remembers telling him he's been abandoned and is on his own now.
#19
Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:47 PM
I don't blame you, see if I ever trust myself again, too. I did the exact same thing, referred back to the previous spellings. >_< One dyslexic moment and it just snowballed on from there.Aaagh! Me too.
(all your fault svines85; I checked your post before I put in the name. See if I trust you again! )
Meanwhile, yes, I'm pretty sure we'll see more backstory on that. For instance, I'm wondering who that girl is that Min-Seong vaguely remembers telling him he's been abandoned and is on his own now.
#20
Posted 26 August 2012 - 10:44 PM