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People keep saying stuff about HxH. Gotta say... The gore in that doesn't bother me, it's Hisoka(?) and his VERY creepy fascination with the runt.

 

As for the topic at hand... I wouldn't say this series is dark at all. It's teaching kids to work together, that every one has their own strengths and weaknesses, that getting amazing grades isn't everything, and uhhh... Some other stuff, too.

 

Hisoka is only a tad part of it.

The one we're referring to is the Chimera Ant Arc. In particular, the psychological meltdowns during the arc, the way Netero got dismantled, and Alluka's powers.

Having said that, It's not like I'm bothered by it. I merely state what is true about the contents of the series.


Edited by wintercry, 11 April 2013 - 06:56 PM.


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Guys, please.

Hokuto no Ken



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Shingeki no Kyojin is far far worse then this.  People get bitten in half on camera, gore is everywhere, characters are hated and excluded because of who they are, and it has a gantzesque death rate, except without the revivals.



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Guys, please.

Hokuto no Ken

 

Mentioned.

 

Shingeki no Kyojin is far far worse then this.  People get bitten in half on camera, gore is everywhere, characters are hated and excluded because of who they are, and it has a gantzesque death rate, except without the revivals.

 

Uhh... in case you missed it, this topic is talking about Shuukan Shounen Jump series.

 

Same goes for the guy who mentioned Elfen Lied.


Edited by wintercry, 13 September 2013 - 03:34 AM.


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Mentioned.

 

 

Uhh... in case you missed it, this topic is talking about Shuukan Shounen Jump series.

 

Same goes for the guy who mentioned Elfen Lied.

  Ah, my mistake, I thought we were talking about Shounen in general.



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The topic is about Assassination Classroom being published in a shonen magazine so I think that a current shonen is more on topic than a manga published 20 years ago.

Everybody agrees to say that Jump content has evolved since the time of Ken and Jojo.



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The topic is about Assassination Classroom being published in a shonen magazine so I think that a current shonen is more on topic than a manga published 20 years ago.

Everybody agrees to say that Jump content has evolved since the time of Ken and Jojo.

The shonen demographic in general has become a lot more light-hearted, even dark series  such has  HxH, death note, Detective Conan and this tend to have a comedic element.

 

Going back to the start on whether or not this should be a shonen or a senien manga, this definitely fits into shonen, if korosensei was human, and every member of class E was only in for themselves. Then this would be senien.

 

Side note, Jump's motto is friendship, effort, victory. Which embodies this series perfectly


By the time you finish reading this,

 

you'll have forgotten who I am.


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People keep saying stuff about HxH. Gotta say... The gore in that doesn't bother me, it's Hisoka(?) and his VERY creepy fascination with the runt.

 

As for the topic at hand... I wouldn't say this series is dark at all. It's teaching kids to work together, that every one has their own strengths and weaknesses, that getting amazing grades isn't everything, and uhhh... Some other stuff, too.

Thats because Hisoka is only one obvious boner from being a full on pedophile


the only problem i see with this series is the sexual harrasment scene with the female teacher apart from that its shounen material 

also as previously stated OP probably hasn't read many seinen and or shounen manga

otherwise he would know that Seinen tends to be extremely more dark than kill the monster threatening to blow up the world

 

try reading wolf guy ookami no munshou for an example of how much darker seinen gets



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I think the OPs main issue with this isn't necessarily it's violence in general, but its violence that is easily mistaken for reality and imitable, though it has enough elements of sci-fi and fantasy to dissuade that. But the basic story line is more realistic than most (no super powers except the main "villain" and nothing that breaks the conventional rules of reality (except the main villain, once again). Most of the acts, shooting, parkour, etc... can be done in real life. I'm not about to agree kids are that stupid, but some are impressionable. I assume that's the main point the OP wants to make.

 

OP = Original Poster for those that don't know.



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When I first started to read this I had similar "fears". But the manga does everything to tell us that it's not harmful to humans. They use BB bullets specially designed for Korosensei. Their knifes also can't harm humans. Every plan they made so far was mostly safe for humans (except that explosive pudding... could be bad for a human XD). They also utilize their new learned skills to help them with other situations in real life (various competitions).

So I think in the end it's ok so long as you keep all those factors in mind. As for plot holes like stated by the OP (how did he blow up the moon)... we now learned he can convert part of his body into power for explosions... so he prolly did just that. For the reason why he did it we can still only guess. My prediction is that on the moon was a research facility which researched ways to "enhance" humans and Koro was a part of that research. This comes from the thing the school director said "the suppossed savior turns into the destroyer" (or something like that). Than an incident happened and someone close to him died and her dying wish was for him to teach these children of class E.... but that's just my guess.



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Actually, I don't think it's dangerous. None of the cast are dead. Unless you count some that bitch sensei killed before. And none of them ever actually killed someone either. The idea of a class being set for assassination is an interesting concept for me. Another thing I liked is the fact that not all characters are left out. Like Terasaka who may seem like a bully had started to grow to be a reliable character as the story progresses. Some of the character's backgrounds like Kanzaki and Takebayashi's are really easy to relate to. Stress and expectations respectively. Kanzaki ended up failing  Due to stress while Takebayashi had a problem with his family's expectations. Even the other characters too had a subject that even some adults and teens like me can relate to. That's just one of the things that are good about Assassination Classroom.

 

The most dangerous one according to me would have been Death Note because the protagonist seems to end up deteriorating in character for me. Hunter X Hunter too is brutal but I've seen others that are much more brutal and gory than Shonen Jump magazine's Manga's. And even if it's gory, it's still toned down much better unlike the others.

 

Besides, Seinen wouldn't have fitted Assassination Classroom because most of the characters are in middle school and Koro Sensei isn't exactly human either. But if Koro Sensei is planned to be something like the ghouls in Tokyo Ghoul then that might work though their age range would have been changed that way. I'm pretty sure your argument of Assassination Classroom being dangerous is pretty invalid right now because Assassination Classroom didn't go all Game of Thrones or Shingeki no Kyoujin and kept the tone of a Shounen manga for younger readers to read.