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What would you do in the same situation?


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Do you live your life in sorrow after being swindled or to your get your revenge?

I would do the same as him.

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Hm. That's actually hard to say.
I probably would be really traumatized and really wary of people afterwards.
I'll probably break down along the way also.

As much I want to be awesome as Kuro, I'm really terrible at lying to people and scamming people.

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Would have done the same... But ofc I would not have been that good and lucky at it...
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i would do the same as him and have the revenge.
if something like that happens to me i won't just make it that the person is penniless or go to jail i'll make his/her life hell for the rest of their miserable life and believe me i won't let them died young unless they were in some kind of accident which well consider themselves lucky
also, i always have my revenge on people but lucky it isn't to that level yet.

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Oh you're all such badasses, why don't you just go and earn some money if you're so clever to be able to avenge them?

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Oh you're all such badasses, why don't you just go and earn some money if you're so clever to be able to avenge them?


you know that's a bit unfortunate because it tells us more about you then it does about us... I feel a bit bad...

Besides no reason to get mad over people stating their feelings... You should learn to read feelings, rather than take what is said here as what we're going to go do tomorrow.

But seriously I don't really get what your so mad about, no one here would really want to scam others... We aren't planing our future here...

And seriously I don't really care who you have seen been scammed or if yourself has experienced something similar... seriously everyone has seen or heard something like that, and the best way out is not to drown in self-pity but to take it up yourself (a person who have experienced horrible things is far from rare, giving into the horrors is like giving up your own life)...

And no one really cares how hard it is to get out of such stuff... Of course it's hard, but in the end it's a question if you can do it or not.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but nothing of such sort happened to me. You say to read feelings. But the question is what would you do, not what would you like to do in such case. And the point is: only one in about 1KK is able to pull it off. And here it looks like almost every single manga reader has enough will, talent and strengh to do it. *We aren't planning our future here* How many people do you think plan to make their family swindled so as to become an ultrasuccesful revenger for the great justice.....?

And as for me I wouldn't try to live for the sake of revenge but continue to do my best to be as succesful in life as I can. That's what I think right now, but dunno what'd really happen.

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If I was in a manga as awesome as this, I would do revenge.

Unfortunately, I live in reality. Reality dictates that I'm not cunning, smart, devious, etc etc enough to swindle people. I would probably have to depend on my relatives until I can get out to work and stand on my own. I would shut out everyone else and lose trust in humans. I would just work my as* off to feed myself.

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You're saying that because you're (apparently) not the man of the house.

As I'm the one earning a living and supporting my family, I know that it's very hard.

I have to pay my college, my house, every bill that comes under my door.

Reading this manga can really helps you. Why? Because you learn about some stuff and when you see in the real world you know that your money is in danger. You learn to be safer.

What would I do if I were him?
If I didn't have anyone to support me, I would become a homeless person trying my best to overcome all of this. To learn how to be a kurosaki with the man that broke my parents is something that I probably would never imagine. I won't do that.

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I have same feeling as @ Yuuei (and I also have many other feeling which I dont like to share........ tehe....)
just like @damienthedevil said if I were in this manga and this much talented I surely will

Edited by ZuiyaXD, 21 May 2012 - 06:30 AM.


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I sure as hell hope I wouldn't become like Kurasaki.

This manga is about poetic justice; people use their means to cheat others, and those same means are twisted and used back on them to ruin them. But Kurosaki is no hero, he's not even an avenger. Kurosaki is a parasite just like the rest, if it seems different, its because the ones he directly targets are parasites themselves, and he often reimburses one of their victims as a reward for the information they give.

But look more closely, Kurosaki doesn't care about the victims, he has embraced the motif "it's your own fault for getting cheated," and focuses the same swindler mindset in a way that he finds self-fulfilling. He targets only swindlers because it makes him happy to do so, maybe it makes him feel less guilty about it, reimbursing one of the victims is probably the same to him. But he is no hero, no avenger, no vigilante.

Regarding his desire to take down the swindlers that ruined his family, well you can call that revenge, but its the sort of revenge that has nothing to do with those that died, it's entirely selfish, and quite probably just another way to help him feel better about what he does.

I love this manga. I love the poetic justice, I love the intelligent schemes the mangaka employs, and how I can never quite predict how the protagonist will swindle the swindlers, I even love the poetic irony of the protagonist's background, but I pray I never become like that.

If my life were destroyed by swindlers, I hope I would raise public awareness, join with law-enforcement, or failing that, put a bullet in the heads of the ones responsible, any of those would be preferable fates to becoming a kurosagi.

I know a lot of us, invigorated by youth and idealism, would want to say we got our justice, our revenge, but the two are unrelated, and besides that, idealism is hollow by itself, and leads to self-delusions. If you have the fortitude and idealism to sincerely say you would follow through with that sort of thing, direct your virtues elsewhere and do something positive, don't wait for injustice to find you, there's more than enough of it in the world already.

Some of you are thinking right now "he's over-reacting, this is just a what-if thread on a manga forum" well so what if I am? If anyone reading this has the mildest degree of self revelation (even if its just a sudden realization that you crave nachos) then it's worth the three minutes it took me to type it. I had nothing better to do anyway. Many of you are thinking "Wall of text -- auto-avoid," which is too bad, a large number of lengthy forum posts by people who think themselves intelligent and insightful can be very funny.

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I sure as hell hope I wouldn't become like Kurasaki.

This manga is about poetic justice; people use their means to cheat others, and those same means are twisted and used back on them to ruin them. But Kurosaki is no hero, he's not even an avenger. Kurosaki is a parasite just like the rest, if it seems different, its because the ones he directly targets are parasites themselves, and he often reimburses one of their victims as a reward for the information they give.

But look more closely, Kurosaki doesn't care about the victims, he has embraced the motif "it's your own fault for getting cheated," and focuses the same swindler mindset in a way that he finds self-fulfilling. He targets only swindlers because it makes him happy to do so, maybe it makes him feel less guilty about it, reimbursing one of the victims is probably the same to him. But he is no hero, no avenger, no vigilante.

Regarding his desire to take down the swindlers that ruined his family, well you can call that revenge, but its the sort of revenge that has nothing to do with those that died, it's entirely selfish, and quite probably just another way to help him feel better about what he does.

I love this manga. I love the poetic justice, I love the intelligent schemes the mangaka employs, and how I can never quite predict how the protagonist will swindle the swindlers, I even love the poetic irony of the protagonist's background, but I pray I never become like that.

If my life were destroyed by swindlers, I hope I would raise public awareness, join with law-enforcement, or failing that, put a bullet in the heads of the ones responsible, any of those would be preferable fates to becoming a kurosagi.

I know a lot of us, invigorated by youth and idealism, would want to say we got our justice, our revenge, but the two are unrelated, and besides that, idealism is hollow by itself, and leads to self-delusions. If you have the fortitude and idealism to sincerely say you would follow through with that sort of thing, direct your virtues elsewhere and do something positive, don't wait for injustice to find you, there's more than enough of it in the world already.

Some of you are thinking right now "he's over-reacting, this is just a what-if thread on a manga forum" well so what if I am? If anyone reading this has the mildest degree of self revelation (even if its just a sudden realization that you crave nachos) then it's worth the three minutes it took me to type it. I had nothing better to do anyway. Many of you are thinking "Wall of text -- auto-avoid," which is too bad, a large number of lengthy forum posts by people who think themselves intelligent and insightful can be very funny.


Yeah, and you know what the best is?

The only way to improve knowledge or intelligence is by being wrong... So someday when you realize what is wrong with what you just wrote you can continue on with something... that is wrong too ^^. xD

Why do I know that you are wrong? Well I can only be as sure that you are wrong as I am that I am. I'm not saying everything you say is 100% wrong. I'm just saying 99,9% is most likely completely wrong.

You really wanna know why? It is simple though if you are right more than 6 billion other people are wrong... there. So chances that you are right is 1/6 000 000 000 xD

lol I just wanted to randomly post a reply to you so that was it.

Edited by TheCrowSword, 22 June 2012 - 10:16 PM.

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Revenge, plain and simple. The problem, though, is the ***hole you take revenge on is quite simply an ***hole. Don't expect a scammed scam artist to take things gently.

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I wouldn't be clever enough to pull off even a hundredth of what Kurosagi does, nor am I much of a risk taker, so I probably wouldn't follow in his footsteps. Even if I had the cleverness, the balls, and the proper guidance, I'd still hesitate since swindling others (even other swindlers) is really not something that I'd want to dedicate my life to.

Any concept that involves dishing out karmic justice - stealing from thieves, murdering murderers, swindling swindlers, etc - is an interesting concept, but it doesn't translate well into real life.



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If I could pull it out I wouldn't waited for my whole family to get murdered to swindle others. Unfortunately it seems I'm not such an opportunist, and neither should I have talent for that.

 

Though, it's funny to read how many here are stating they'd do the same when they probably wouldn't, and then look down upon others stating their fault. You obviously aren't imagining such a thing in reality, are you ? Everything sounds easier when it's only about words. There's even that crow guy saying how he would never do that because it's unjust and trying out his condescendence in others. Seriously ? Your ad hominems aren't even credible.


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