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for example look at Red-Hawk-Scans, they received a C&D already for Bakuman and Beelzebub.


yeah, but Red-Hawk-Scans are just ignoring it, thats the problem.

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yeah, but Red-Hawk-Scans are just ignoring it, thats the problem.

You cant be more wrong my little Potato spurt, They stopped hosting it on their servers, which was as requested.
They didnt ask them to stop scanlating them for other servers tho.

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You cant be more wrong my little Potato spurt, They stopped hosting it on their servers, which was as requested.
They didnt ask them to stop scanlating them for other servers tho.


I hope you know, that what they are doing isn´t benefiting anyone of us, I mean who really read their scans on their site? yeah, exactly 1-2 persons (admin and the co-admin xD).

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Too be honest, we put Watermarks in the Mangas/manwhas for reasons.
Though we say its so they respect our wishes, but actually, We are trying to get people to buy the original copies.
Since once an author has had it or an company, they might cancel or license the manga/manwha.

well, that's a reason. and a good one too
thinking about it, the only watermarks i don't like are the ones that certain manga readers put on the images, as if it were their property
i too hope that people will buy the original of their favorites at least, and if watermarks could convince them to do that...

Edited by Takayuki, 18 March 2012 - 02:50 PM.

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Too be honest, we put Watermarks in the Mangas/manwhas for reasons.
Though we say its so they respect our wishes, but actually, We are trying to get people to buy the original copies.
Since once an author has had it or an company, they might cancel or license the manga/manwha.

Good point there.I think with watermarks,readers would feel convinced to buy their favorite manga/manhwa.
But for people who are too used to get a stuff that they want for free,it is hard to convince them,and all they know is to rant,rant and rant on watermarks :/

"I will say them once we meet again. Until then, I will never give up. Even if everyone says you're dead… even if the spells show you are dead… even if your grave stands before my eyes, I won’t believe it. I’ll wait for you for the rest of my life. But, even that won’t repay the thing that you did to me. I will call you back to life. Even if I’ll be called stupid, I will wait for you. With all my being, I will deny your death."

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Good point there.I think with watermarks,readers would feel convinced to buy their favorite manga/manhwa.
But for people who are too used to get a stuff that they want for free,it is hard to convince them,and all they know is to rant,rant and rant on watermarks :/

Well, they should just /cutwrists and die.
I seriously dont give a fuck if they Rant or not.
theres a simple IPban button for a reason.

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Well, they should just /cutwrists and die.
I seriously dont give a fuck if they Rant or not.
theres a simple IPban button for a reason.

Haha,true enough.

"I will say them once we meet again. Until then, I will never give up. Even if everyone says you're dead… even if the spells show you are dead… even if your grave stands before my eyes, I won’t believe it. I’ll wait for you for the rest of my life. But, even that won’t repay the thing that you did to me. I will call you back to life. Even if I’ll be called stupid, I will wait for you. With all my being, I will deny your death."

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like it was said some posts before "haters gonna hate"

you dont listen to reason

you think the solar system is circled around you

you probably never worked in the scanlation business and probably never worked at all

get it together and except the basic truths to this topic

1. respect the scanlators = no watermarks

2. no scanlators = no chapters = nothing to read
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you probably never worked in the scanlation business and probably never worked at all

today's youth seems to be rather spoiled
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today's youth seems to be rather spoiled

Indeed, he seems to be pretty new to scanlating

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Indeed, he seems to be pretty new to scanlating


who?

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who?


OP and those other few fellas? I'm not sure.

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i guess they mean me, maybe because i name utopic points dunno what else they could mean
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well, i at least was talking about the ones who can do nothing but complain
they must have been spoiled since birth to think it's their right to get everything served on a silver plate, without having lifted a finger for it themselves
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i was saying the same thing in other words, but we can repeat it as often as we want either they dont want to hear it or r too stupid to get it
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Scanlators who watermark should just die,
I mean, they're doing it for the readers to begin with, so why would they deliberately hinder the readers now?
And on top of that, they are even asking for donations? God, know your place people. Stuff will still be readable on Mangafox even without Scanlators! No one needs to spend a cent nor lift a finger!

Edited by PROzess, 18 March 2012 - 08:25 PM.

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Scanlators who watermark should just die,
I mean, they're doing it for the readers to begin with, so why would they deliberately hinder the readers now?
And on top of that, they are even asking for donations? God, know your place people. Stuff will still be readable on Mangafox even without Scanlators! No one needs to spend a cent nor lift a finger!


is this meant to be sarcasm?

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today's youth seems to be rather spoiled


that's kinda being a bit harsh taka ;_; it's more like a lot of people just don't care about things like this

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Personally I feel like humans themselves, will only stop when they are forced to... meaning that teens will simply ignore anything that would limit them... until they encounter a different opinion, in let's say their parents to take an example. Or they simply realize when something is not possible anymore... for example it's not possible to get English free scanlations without scanlator groups... and then we tend to adapt to the crowd we end up with... and since many end up at manga fox with an atmosphere of we want more...

but It's not really that simple either... blah I'm tired night...
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Sigh... this thread is getting quite derailed. (Guilty self as well)

Topic: Batoto taking action against watermarks
Response: Such action may carry unwanted repercussions.

Everything else that's off topic: What scanlators should do.... and the arguments around it.
Since on topic posts are limited to 1st page... I'll just close.

Small summary:
/a/ has requests for scanlators (Batoto is not a scanlator) to reduce or remove watermarks.
People are grumpy about watermarks because they're ugly.
Argues that scanlators are hypocritical as they want control... but arguing fans are also hypocritical as they're whining that scanlators shouldn't whine.

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It's clear Batoto is not a fair ground for the off topic discussion due to overwhelming scanlator population present.