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[Soran Lioncore]

SO, Hades is back and he got kouhei as his sidekick, huh??.

Things just got interesting.to me, Hades is the most interesting antagonist character in this story
first, he is the first person attack sengoku akira.
second, his identity is shrouded in mystery
third, he smart enough to manipulate a person mental instability. look what he did to kouhei.. he might even rivaled nishikori
in terms of manipulating people mind.
fourth, nobody knows how he survived alone in that island before kouhei join him.
fifth, in earlier chapter,he fell into a cliff and survived(correct me if i wrong)

lets see if sengoku vs hades round 2 will happen again this time,
I just hope Hades will kick Nishikori the shitty doctor butt instead of wastin time fightin sengoku...

Edited by FINAL ZERO, 10 April 2012 - 09:48 AM.

[PervySageChuck]

Well, guess what two characters have now re-appeared?

And my theory on Miina's name being on the central tower is that the Real Miina is a clone of a long dead Miina, This is backed up by the DNA labs beneath the Pyramid.

[Fangz]

you think if Hades is his clone that they'll send HIS head to the doctor ?

But really, Hades protected the girl that fell down so, he can't be all that bad, right?

[Attis]

lawl if he's so awsum why would the loser begin to retreat when he saw Kouhei getting pwned by the monster? Not even assisting the guy.... I have a hunch that this guy will be nothing more than a comic relief character who enjoys acting badass when he has nothing badass to show trolololol

[Eien No]

I'd still like to know what his intentions are. Why'd he try to kill Sengoku but saved someone now? Why did he make Arita go on a killing spree but then try to save him?

WHO ARE YOU HADES?!?!

[valcran]

I think Hades is a survivor from the people who were before on the island and made all the experiments to bring back the prehistoric creatures. (I guess is possible there are other survivors who live underground escaping from the creatures that grew out of control on the surface, or maybe from some disease).

What makes me belive this is that Hades seems to have in high regard the idea of survival of the fittest which he must have learned from self experience, on his first encounter with Sengoku seemed to try to prove that point but Sengoku managed to prove "worthy" in its own way, something similar happened with Kouhei and when he lost his old sense of morality and became similar to Hades himself he got his approval as it could be seen when Kouhei fought the monster in the trap.

I dont think Hades is from the initial flight group because it didn´t make so much sense to me be so broken after just a few days of the accident, (wearing a mask, believing to be Hades the lord of the underworld, talking to Sengoku about survival of the fittest and stalking Kouhei to madness) besides surviving alone so easily, he probably took the clothes from a death student to "infiltrate" them easier but was like that since way before they all got to the island and naturally got interested in them.

The theory about Hades being Sengoku or anyone from the future is interesting but there are no heavy facts to support it yet, just two things when Hades and Sengoku first talk he knew Sengoku's name beforehand and says something about "they all are going to die although he has been wrong in the past", but I guess he knows Sengoku's name because he heard it while watching them from afar and the other phrase must refer to someone in the past he tought that definetely was going to die and somehow survived, maybe this was about himself.

So I guess he will be a key character to discover some of the misteries of the island, I guess he knows Mina and maybe that she will rememeber him without the mask (well if she is not faking her amnesia).

[Xytictaful]

Pardon me, I've only read a third of the posts here too.... Lord of HADES makes an appearance in chapter 160. You can verify this on: mangareader.net (Ripoff of Batoto, since it steals from Batoto and other websites). HADES play an important role (Although he's retarded and f***ed up) in Cage of Eden. As to the website I mentioned, you probably don't want to check it unless you want spoilers.

In conclusion, no one likes HADES and he is one f***ed up kid. However,

SPOILER: He saves Miina.

Ahem. There is something special to HADES and you will find out in later chapters.

[saranghachi]

Even though no one has been on this thread in a good while, I just wanted to add my thoughts into this in case some other random reader wants to lurk around.

I really think Hades is an important key to understanding this whole island. He seems to know a lot more than what's being presented and he has been surviving for a good long while on his own (unless he has been grabbing groups and then working with them, then killing them off but that is highly unlikely since he's a loner type and has set himself high above everyone else as "God".). Even though he hasn't popped up constantly like some annoying antagonist that doesn't know how to give up, the author is building us up thinking "You know, Sengoku and Co. can kick butt. Nothing can beat them." and then something HUGE will happen and we are all crushed by either Hades (not physically like destroy but possibly moral or something) or the truth about the island.

The following info is a spoiler since I've read ahead and we learn some more info about this island so I'll hid it behind a spoiler.

Spoiler

Okay, so in the future chapters Sengoku and Co. head off to explore the 4th tower and find a gruesome scene of skeletons of humans, cars, crushed helecopter, and the building. It is hinted that something or someone is watching them within the building (maybe Hades or someone new). We also are hit (inside the building) that Rion noticed that Akira (Sengoku) could be tied to this via an anagram of some of the graffiti in the church. And of course, since this is a psychological manga, we all know that this information wouldn't be given to us without it later having significants. SO possibly Akira (through some crazy connection) is connected. It is highly possible, the theories we thought were crazy before like a clone of Akira might not be so far-fetched. Hades could be a clone if it goes down that route. The real Miina might be a clone so why can't Sengoku? (This is just be saying that we can't put down someone's theory just yet. I'm not 100% convinced about it yet but it's plausible.)

Sengoku might be linked to this island and the craziness much more closely than we could've imagined at the beginning when all we thought about him was that he was a normal guy who was surrounded by talented friends that overshadowed him. He himself could be the key to the island along with Hades. Not sure how they are linked though. I can't jump like a hundred steps ahead and make up my own theory about Hades connection or who he is but I just know he is important and not just some crazy kid that everyone says he is.

Also, it makes sense why Hades would try to run off when the battle between Kohei and one of the failed experiments got a little hairy and not leaning in his favor. I think even if he think he's God, he knows what to face off against. He's not gonna go through the trouble of fighting something when it is not necessary for him to. He is also teaming up with Kohei instead of killing him off because he's interesting but also a good tool to use. (How did they get down in the trap/tunnel underground anyway? They must've found a tunnel and have been traveling underground from the place where Kohei was flushed out with the face rock formations up to there.) He's not just some cowardly kid who is crazy. If he survived this long, he is pretty dang smart. Possibly smarter than most if not all of the people on the island.

[otakunorke]

since they found out they were in the future and they were considered dead in the present hades is probally someone who survived the extinct animal invasian and surrrvived until now

[Kitten cannon]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! IM FROM THE FUTURE AND I KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS




except about Hades and that makes me sad

[Leoh]

This is the ending spoilers. Still no news of Hades. I believe he was a part of the group all along since he had their uniform.

Spoiler

So basically the plane traveled to the future, around 100-200 years into the future. The island they were on, was call Akira Island, which was an artificial island created by the grandfather of Miina and the mother of Akira and other parents of the kids who supposedly died at that plane crash. The purpose of the island was to create Miina's dream come true, because she loved extinct animals and her grandfather decided to create thsi island full of the extinct animals that she liked, using her drawing book as reference, so blah blah blah, they created this island, created the animals on it, and then what happened was what you all should know, a virus spread in the residential tower(The 4th and last tower) killing everybody there, and without them the rest of the island inhabitants just didn't know what to do and the island just simply died and then Akira's plane crashed into this island, and so forth.

 

 

I don't know how to explain well, so just go to mangareader or something to read it. Oh yeah, after Hades saves that girl from that Cemetary type place, he is never seen or heard from again, the author just discarded him, like he discarded our questions.

[holyfuture]

@Daemon
actually the ending spoiler is...almost right, but some point is wrong.
(the part in BOLD is correct.)

Spoiler

So basically the plane traveled to the future, around 100-200 years into the future. The island they were on, was call Akira Island, which was an artificial island created by the grandfather of Miina and the mother of Akira and other parents of the kids who supposedly died at that plane crash. The purpose of the island was to create Miina's dream come true, because she loved extinct animals and her grandfather decided to create thsi island full of the extinct animals that she liked, using her drawing book as reference, so blah blah blah, they created this island, created the animals on it, and then what happened was what you all should know, a virus spread in the residential tower(The 4th and last tower) killing everybody there, and without them the rest of the island inhabitants just didn't know what to do and the island just simply died and then Akira's plane crashed into this island, and so forth.

if you want to say, should be:

Spoiler

Everyone is still alive on the plane which Akira and his classmates ride onboard, but everyone is in fact DEAD when it was crashed, just that they don't know and thought that they were still alive and trying to survive/find a way to get back home.
and in between, there is a time slip, to them it only happen in a flash, to Akira's mother and the other kids family, about 40+ or more years has gone by and in between is where the artificial island start to being created and then destroy due to the virus.

As for Akira and the others, they are consider like...ghost in fact but alive and going on an adventure while Akira is the leader leading everyone, base on Akira's mother statement.

so the time line is:
Akira and the others are still alive in the plane but crash and die, the artificial island is created and destroy, akira and his team found themself "alive" in an unknown place (which is the island) and goes in an adventure trying to survive and find a way to get back home, in the end all truth is clear and they know what happen in fact and there's no point continue struggling to return home at once anymore, in the end, they all just started their new life living altogether in the island while maybe...planning to go on another adventure outside the island one day.

I thought that maybe they really did travel to the future before reading till the end, or maybe it's like they have ended up in a parallel world where the "original" is dead but they came to that world while still alive.
but after reading the ending, turn out isn't what I expected to see.

Edited by holyfuture, 30 March 2013 - 03:33 AM.

[Sniffo]

@Daemon
actually the ending spoiler is...almost right, but some point is wrong.
(the part in BOLD is correct.)

Spoiler

So basically the plane traveled to the future, around 100-200 years into the future. The island they were on, was call Akira Island, which was an artificial island created by the grandfather of Miina and the mother of Akira and other parents of the kids who supposedly died at that plane crash. The purpose of the island was to create Miina's dream come true, because she loved extinct animals and her grandfather decided to create thsi island full of the extinct animals that she liked, using her drawing book as reference, so blah blah blah, they created this island, created the animals on it, and then what happened was what you all should know, a virus spread in the residential tower(The 4th and last tower) killing everybody there, and without them the rest of the island inhabitants just didn't know what to do and the island just simply died and then Akira's plane crashed into this island, and so forth.

if you want to say, should be:

Spoiler

Everyone is still alive on the plane which Akira and his classmates ride onboard, but everyone is in fact DEAD when it was crashed, just that they don't know and thought that they were still alive and trying to survive/find a way to get back home.
and in between, there is a time slip, to them it only happen in a flash, to Akira's mother and the other kids family, about 40+ or more years has gone by and in between is where the artificial island start to being created and then destroy due to the virus.

As for Akira and the others, they are consider like...ghost in fact but alive and going on an adventure while Akira is the leader leading everyone, base on Akira's mother statement.

so the time line is:
Akira and the others are still alive in the plane but crash and die, the artificial island is created and destroy, akira and his team found themself "alive" in an unknown place (which is the island) and goes in an adventure trying to survive and find a way to get back home, in the end all truth is clear and they know what happen in fact and there's no point continue struggling to return home at once anymore, in the end, they all just started their new life living altogether in the island while maybe...planning to go on another adventure outside the island one day.

I thought that maybe they really did travel to the future before reading till the end, or maybe it's like they have ended up in a parallel world where the "original" is dead but they came to that world while still alive.
but after reading the ending, turn out isn't what I expected to see.

But since the island was built AFTER the plane disappeared it couldn't have crashed in their time, the only possible answer is that the plane somehow leapt forth in time and crashed into the island.

[max0611]

we can just guess who hades is and none of them are correct unless we actually see he take that stupid mask off and show everyone who he really is.

 but come one a a clone? is that even possible ? it's true that they were revive animals with their DNA or whatever but get real, pal.

and i am more intrested in how did they time jump? and who hell was that girl in the end? what? akira's step-sister? that was BULLSHIT

but still I LOVE THE BEGINNING UNTILL THE ENDING SO IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME STILL SO MANY HOLES TO FILL IN.