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[Kishuy]

Dear batoto creators

I normally read manga using my pad and it really feels different, more comfortable. I use an app called MangaStorm but unfortunately it takes its manga from NOEZ's websites, MF, etc...

My idea was for batoto to take some ideas from this app's mechanics and create your own, truly pro translator batoto reading app. I bet there are some readers here that would be glad to help you. I do know its free to post apps on android, unfortunately i do not now if the same happens with apple store, but i will leave those details for others.

Best of luck,
Kishuy

[Grumpy]

I don't own any apple products, so hard to say how anything works over there.
But I am aware that there are android app that does work with batoto. Though, we officially endorse none of them, just saying there are.

[hados9]

well it is easy to make as i have done it for school in a class called multimedia well it was a demo but i had to delete it according to my teacher as i didnt get permission from Your majesty above and well the only proof of it are in my computer logs and my teachers and my own heads

[Kishuy]

I do know that you have to pay for Apple store(its their way to profit/maintain a certain amount of quality) so I was wondering certain tactics to make it sustainable.

Mangastorm is free to use, but if you want to save more than 3 favorite so it will update and u don't have to browse too much info you have to upgrade the app and that will cost you 2,30euros. That also takes out adds.

I was wondering if you could do something similar, have adds to make it free, then just pay 0,79 if you want to remove them. It will certainly take some of the finance pressure from having it there and who know, maybe some profit. I leave the rest to you

On another note, I urge you to endorse those type of apps. I do not own any android system so i can't check it out but you will discover a nice new community that way. Also is more visibility for the website

[Alxandr]

If there was any way of getting reasonable data from this page (that is, not HTML scraping), I'd gladly make mobile apps for batoto. However, that'll just make it easier for bots too to grab stuff.
However, Grumpy, one thing that would be awesome to create apps for is the "My Following" (or whatever you chose to name it). But still need a private/public API access...
And, ofc, this can also be done with RSS, so dunno if there is much of a point.

[God Ginrai]

I don't own any apple products, so hard to say how anything works over there.
But I am aware that there are android app that does work with batoto. Though, we officially endorse none of them, just saying there are.

But why don't you make an official app? (Not you specifically, but you know what I mean) Android users are fairly used to free apps having ads in them. You could make a free Batoto reader and the ad revenues could help the scanlators in the same way the ad revenues for this site do.

-God Ginrai

[CrazyRed98]

why not just read it directly from your browser? I have an iPhone, and have used it on a iPad, and they both load the Batoto and the online reader perfectly for me and I can use it like I normally would from my computer.

[hados9]

^ thats what i do lol but if you use a certain application you can cut loading speeds in half and make it more of an enjoyable experience

[Kishuy]

I have the idea because o really like the app i use. It also alows me to download content inside the app therefore i do not need to have a internet connection all times. Another thing is the app resizes everything to the diveces size, which is very confortable.

I really dislike comments like crazyred98's. Its help noone. We all do that already and its the same as saying: "no need for planes, just drive there, you got roads right"

[mhh]

I have the idea because o really like the app i use. It also alows me to download content inside the app therefore i do not need to have a internet connection all times. Another thing is the app resizes everything to the diveces size, which is very confortable.

I really dislike comments like crazyred98's. Its help noone. We all do that already and its the same as saying: "no need for planes, just drive there, you got roads right"

There's nothing bad about your having and idea and voicing it that's what the forum is for.

I know what you mean about Crazy's post, though it all depends on points of view.
You say you "really dislike" what he said, but it seems you missed why he said it. You aren't a native English speaker so you probably didn't notice the subliminal message that God Ginrai post carries. It might not have been intentional though, but reading the message it gets across to us as "We want one, go make one!"

So whenever we as moderators see something like this we get a bit upset from the lack of consideration towards Grumpy, be it intentional or not.
I hope you understand why Crazy said what he did a bit better now.

I don't own any apple products, so hard to say how anything works over there.
But I am aware that there are android app that does work with batoto. Though, we officially endorse none of them, just saying there are.

But why don't you make an official app? (Not you specifically, but you know what I mean) Android users are fairly used to free apps having ads in them. You could make a free Batoto reader and the ad revenues could help the scanlators in the same way the ad revenues for this site do.

-God Ginrai

Making the applilcation can probably be done very quickly. But just making something doesn't cut it. It will need to be maintained.
"not you specifically" doesn't really mean anything here since for an app to be official it has to be made by Grumpy. He's the only one who maintains and develops Batoto. Yes, he does use IPB software and Invision skins, but that has problems of its own.
I can't say this often enough, Grumpy is working as a full time empolyee of a company and is investing a lot to all of his free time in Batoto. Most of the time why he doesn't do something that was suggested is because of his priorities


You may ask, why doesn't he get somebody to help him then?
There is simply nobody with the necessary skills that Grumpy trusts enough to let him/her work on Batoto. As for the trust issue, you can read this. (happened to mangastream just recently)

I'm not saying that there won't be an app. In fact Grumpy probably thought about pros and cons of making it, but it will all depend on how much time he has to spare.

[Trebor]

Alright, I'm putting an end to this, before this escalates into a zealous user vs. moderator war.

Let me lay out why an official Batoto app will not be forthcoming, at least in the near-term:

• Batoto's developer staff consists of one person (Grumpy)
• Grumpy has a full-time job, and Batoto is a "side-project"
• Grumpy lacks the resources to program Android/iOS apps (e.g., he would need to buy an iPhone and learn how Apple programming works)
• There would probably be significant problems deploying our unique ad structure. Android probably has an ad API, though I'm not sure if it can do what we want. I'm pretty sure iOS can't do what we need it to.
• Batoto is not a downloading site. It's an online reader. This requires an internet connection. By downloading all the manga to your device, you're breaking the concept that Batoto isn't a downloader (also, the same function could probably be utilized in a fashion as to download massive amounts of manga). Also, by downloading everything, you will be bypassing our ads.

I know that you users will feel disappointed, but I'm here to give you realistic answers to your questions. An app will not happen in the near future. That's the reality.

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