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A quick fix on the post above. Copyright laws are country based. Intelectual propriety directives are not. It doesnt seem that much of a difference but it is. Dependente on the country, copyright laws may be more protective in author case or the company who bought the rights.

Also, it is uncommum for that to happen. First no trial can happen without an accused something present/represented, therefore a setence cant be given. Moreover a setence cannot be carried out by another country.

The best you can do is, in this case a civil case, is to request a form of extradition, deportation or request a trial in that country.

Also, most case of copyright end in paying a fine and not this. A good exemple is sony's/microsoft's (not really sure which right now) recent case. A guy in england download some data from cnet(own by the above) and was caught. The company asked for. 3M fine, totally exceeding the boy's means. It end with a severe reprimend on sony/microsoft by the court, the boy had to pay a simple fine.

On another point, i confirm that MF had a clean version was before batoto. How i dunno.

Edited by Kishuy, 17 February 2012 - 06:23 AM.


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This is a guess, but from what I can see the small Japanzai watermarks are still on there (whereas the clean version Japanzai upload don't even have those) so I would imagine MF are getting it by someone who disagrees/disapproves of the way Japanzai are doing things; ripping them off this site or from Japanzai, removing the watermarks, and then uploading them there in an act of defiance at some group trying to tell them what browser they are "allowed" to use.
Personally, I can see what they're saying, people have a browser they like, and extensions they trust - they don't want to change their browsing habits for 1 silly thing (not that I condone what they are doing, but I do understand their reasons).

However, I'm more worried about the damage these watermarks are doing to Batoto - the great thing about these on-line readers is that it's a one stop shop for reading all of your favourite series, however what if an on-line reader required you to install a new browser or be unable to read a series (even if it's one of several) you like? That ease of use suddenly vanishes.
Would you go somewhere else to read that one series? Probably.
Would you, when you see it also has all your other favourites on this other site, still use Batoto and only go to that "other site" for the one you can't read? I don't think so - if it's easier to read all your series in one place, on the other site, then the appeal is there rather than here.

My worry is that the goal Batoto set out with (supporting the scanlation groups, and helping combat those "other" sites) is being irreparably damaged by the very groups it's trying to help.
That people are now being turned away to those other readers because of this action, which is essentially extortion. I don't know how many series/scanlators are going with these watermark tactics so it might only be a marginal loss of support to the other sites, but a loss is a loss.

Edited by GlenIku, 07 February 2012 - 04:19 PM.


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I was wondering, in europe this counts? I mean jumps owns the rights in japan, viz, etc in América but most mangas dont have a publisher in europe.

The comíc store here orders everything from the us.


I'm quite certain that that will be Noez's defense. He doesn't exist in the US, he's in CHina or Hong Kong, so he doesn't have to listen to US law.

However, generally speaking since he is making it available to US readers, and using the US copies that the US companies are making, and with the Berne Convention, they will generally be able to shut him down.

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I'm glad the first page has the watermark, it's less of a shock. I still am against the APNG plugin, so this lets me know to wait another day, which I'm fine iwth.

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Erm, isn't it "www.batoto.NET" and not "www.batoto.COM"?

(Well, your browser will automatically redirect you to batoto.net if you type in batoto.com)

 

And unwatermarked?
You should see how A-Team watermarked their scanlations for quite some time.

For example on "Sekirei" in some chapters (like chapter 122 for example)

That watermark went on for a few chapters before they stopped using it (and yes, it was on EVERY page in these chapters)

 

A small watermark on the edge/in a corner is a minor Issue compared to that. Although I remember that a scanlation group (I think it was TrollScans, not sure) that tended to watermark a trollface into the pages and no, they didn't put it somewhere on the edge but right into the panels, often covering up some fan service and stuff like that (It has been at least a year since I've seen the watermark last time, so innocent till proven guilty :D)


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There are MANY translated light novels, including Highschool DxD, Toaru Majutsu no index, Infinite Stratos, Seirei tsukai no kenbu AND Date a live (the Manga adaption of which got cancelled after chapter 6)


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Does anyone know where to find light novel i know amazon doesn't have it i've checked?



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http://www.zxzxzx.info/highschool-dxd/#V18

 

https://shincodezeroblog.wordpress.com/highschooldxd/storyarc5/volume22/life2/

 

 Baka-tsuki is also a place where you can find them. 

 

Does anyone know where to find light novel i know amazon doesn't have it i've checked?