what is EIICHIRO ODA for you?
#1
Posted 10 December 2011 - 04:16 PM
What do you think of him as an artist? As a writer?
What do you think of his work? (One Piece)
Thus he need improvements ?
and blah....blah...blah...
#2
Posted 10 December 2011 - 07:49 PM
I love One Piece, its just one of the best series around. The story, character development,etc.. is just epic.
Art is very unique and people usually love it or hate it. At first i was skeptical about it, but when i started watching, i couldnt stop
Although i dont read manga(so i dont spoil the anime), im sure that both are pretty epic.
Long live Oda. \o/
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#3
Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:19 PM
#4
Posted 27 December 2011 - 04:07 AM
Well, I will have to disagree, personally I am a huge fan of OP but I don't think it will matter. I maybe a bit biased but a manga being milked to the max *glares at naruto and bleach* will turn the story to shit, look at those 2 manga, see how bad it became? OP is not like that, I check each chapter to see if it had turned like that, and from what I see, it might have been like that at one point (remember all those breaks) but it seem like it is no longer so, after all oda was rushing through FI arc (since I don't think he likes it too). Long live OP! (btw in around chapter 350++, oda was still excited about making OP, notice he actually changed one of this SBS to talk about OP being officially translated)I enjoy eiichiro oda work, there are times when it's been dragged out and boring to read and other times when i couldn't put it down. he's a great mangaka but there's always room for improvement. i was very heartbroken when i heard that that the 2yr time-skip was only the halfway point for one piece. but i guess it's natural when you have a cash cow like op bring in the dough you want to milk it for all it's worth.
#5
Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:15 PM
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#6
Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:19 PM
I maybe a bit biased but a manga being milked to the max *glares at naruto and bleach* will turn the story to shit, look at those 2 manga, see how bad it became?
Truth is most readers can't see that. They like what they like, without looking at the rest of the stuff they probably never even knew of.
Some are kids so it's sort of justified.
The point is that kind of reader is basically the target of the whole Jump stuff.
As a far as a funny random story can go, any reader who wants more than just booms, power ups and cool characters is well capable of telling wich is wich.
AS far as my bias is concerned:
-There's not a crapload of characters, and they have a background, not just a name.
-The main plot is solid. There are arcs, but the main goal always stays the same.
-There's a grand total of 2 power ups for characters in 600+ chapters.
They grow in power, but those 2 times it wasn't a fast upgrade. They gradually became stronger as they faced harder trials and mastered new techniques _after_ seeing other people using them (CP9, Haki, weapons skill, new technology).
The second upgrade also comes after 2 years of training so, in the story, it still makes sense.
(That alone is a clear sign that should make one rethink about a lot of other mangas.)
Long story short, Oda is a writer, and a mangaka.
A good artist could make awesome drawings, but anyone aiming for a long running story must be able to pull off some sort of long and fairly simple story, else it becomes just power-ups, more enemies, more power-ups and more explosions to fill up the pages and the lack of ideas.
The other thing is he did a manga about pirates. There hasn't been exactly a lot of those around lately (then look at vampires, ninjas, demons, sometimes mixed together in the same manga).
Edit: got rid of some typos and a lot of messed up lines, most probably I was sleepy while writing XD
Edited by Darkwings, 14 January 2012 - 02:03 PM.
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#7
Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:27 PM
#8
Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:36 AM
Its also one of the most realistic in terms of if a character looks like he's gonna die, he most likely will; Naruto and Bleach have a reputation where almost no major characters die. Many times a manga's main characters lose vital traits that give way to plot holes (Why is Naruto learning all these great techniques if he's the dumbest in the class? Why does Ichigo no longer worry about his physical body when he enters spirit form?). Luffy and crew still steal treasure, they still throw gigantic parties and get everyone wasted, they still have no care who they go up against, and they still do whatever they want to do.
So, you know, what I'm trying to say is: I like the guy. He's a storyteller writing a narrative that has very few plot holes, outstanding character consistency, and delivers tales that we all at times are envious of. This opinion does go against a lot of what Darkwings stated, but it sounds like we both dig the mangaka so its all good with me. And yeah, I did just make this account to type this one response.
Edited by turtlejake, 20 January 2012 - 05:39 AM.
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#9
Posted 21 January 2012 - 07:38 PM
#10
Posted 25 January 2012 - 01:14 AM
#11
Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:09 PM
#12
Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:09 PM
I think that shows how much I apprieciate his works and the effort he puts into them. I really admire his story-telling.
#13
Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:00 PM
#14
Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:22 PM
Ahem... I agree, that all these mainstream mangas seem - and often actually are - stretched.i was very heartbroken when i heard that that the 2yr time-skip was only the halfway point for one piece. but i guess it's natural when you have a cash cow like op bring in the dough you want to milk it for all it's worth.
However, concerning this halfway-point of One Piece, in my POV, it doesn't apply at all.
They just reached the redline that marks the end of the first half of the grand line and the beginning of the second.
It's only natural One Piece would last for another 600 chapters or so, since their journey is only half over.
For me, these news were happy news. :3
Just my two cents.
#15
Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:50 PM
Of course his manga is fairly long right now (when mangas like detective conan and hajime no ippo exist I refuse to call One Piece "very long" for the time being) which leads a lot of people to the assumption that it is quantity and not quality or that he is dragging the story on. The two major reasons why I believe the story is not elongated and that his story at this point in time is still a great work are:
1. The story flows very naturally between each arc i.e. there are few plot-holes meaning the story is consistent.
2.One Piece remains the most "thorough" and "descriptive" manga I have read. Oda makes a point of making his story as clear cut as possible without losing the mystery that keeps us reading. Which leads it to take longer to wrap up his arcs as each character, their background, thoughts and ambitions are displayed as fully as Oda deems fit meaning we gain more information at the price of a longer manga.
No manga I have read that has 300+ chapters has as much information in it as One Piece. Everyone is free to disagree with me of course.
Lastly, thanks for reading guys and no matter how long it lasts or our opinion I hope we can all enjoy this manga to the end!
#16
Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:01 PM
Naruto and Bleach have a reputation where almost no major characters die. Many times a manga's main characters lose vital traits that give way to plot holes (Why is Naruto learning all these great techniques if he's the dumbest in the class? Why does Ichigo no longer worry about his physical body when he enters spirit form?). Luffy and crew still steal treasure, they still throw gigantic parties and get everyone wasted, they still have no care who they go up against, and they still do whatever they want to do.
i think u seem to forget in naruto he is able to do these great techniques because of his own chakra and kurama's chakra( as he is known now (9 tails)) which is so vast so due to these 2 opposing chakras he isn't able to do simple techs, for bleach he disregards his physical body because of the mod soul that inhabits his physical body when he leaves his body.
i think you my friend are plain biased because naruto's power is what is there that is his own vast amount of chakra and the kyuubi's and the fact that he like his mentor learnt the sage arts which allows him to be powerfulyeah, if you noticed, oda's art actually isn't that good, but OP managed to nab no.1 in japan, so he must be one heck of a writer. But don't you just feel that he is rushing FI arc? Just curious but kubo makes the MC gain power then lose it only to gain more to lose it. Don't you find it stupid? Naruto is worst... Naruto is gain power, chase friend, gain power, continue chasing friend, gain power, fight war to chase friend... wtf.
#17
Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:02 PM
Oda's art has been criticized before by people saying he gets lazy with less important characters, but who cares if you are only gonna see them in a few frames anyway. I feel like Oda's work resembles Torayama's style in Dragon Ball. If the art is easy to do then there is more time to develop the story. I've read other manga where the art is amazing but the story may not be as interesting. But I myself enjoy a variety of styles and mediums so I'm fine with the artwork the way it is.
Improvements....I enjoy the story the way it is, but there have been things I would've liked to see happen that didn't. Like in Impel Down, I would have liked Bon Clay to join the Straw Hat Crew. He is definitely worthy of being a crewmate if he survived Magellon's poison. Additionally I would like to see the people and countries that were saved by the Straw Hats to openly show their support of them, but thats just things I'd like to see.
Few manga have left me feeling genuinely happy after reading them the way One Piece does.
#18
Posted 18 March 2012 - 03:19 AM
My feelings ? People had already express them above........
To me .... Oda-sensei's ...... GOD
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#19
Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:35 PM
He's art is very good too ,I don't find it bad at all.
"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."―Varys (Game of Thrones)
#20
Posted 26 April 2012 - 04:46 PM
OP is the one manga that has it all!
Story -> It is the one manga where you can laugh til your tummy hurt and cry til you bawl your eyes over, impossible if you are not a master storyteller like Odacchi.
Art -> you guys say the art sucks? Think again. Which other manga with 300+ chapters has such ... extensively crowded background and frames? Compare it to some other mangas coughnarutocough that could use up one whole page for one whole frame of a face close-up (which does not help to explain the story in anyway), REPEATEDLY, or even WHITE EMPTY background, I'd rather have Odacchi's cram-as-many-characters-things-items-effects-and-text-as-possible-in-one-frame style of art.
Representation -> you guys really need to check his frame placement and layout, it really helps bring his story across, which elevates his awesomeness as master storyteller to another level (godlevel????)
Continuity -> rarely do i feel plot holes in the story unlike in many other long running manga (Dragon Ball included), and the whole storyline make sense as one great plot!
Ok i think i am enough of a fangirl for a night~