How long until an inactive groups policies because null?
#1
Posted 10 December 2011 - 12:25 PM
#2
Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:21 PM
Btw, isn't this topic in the wrong place?
Edited by Valéria, 10 December 2011 - 01:22 PM.
#3
Posted 10 December 2011 - 02:20 PM
As of now I'm not aware of any definite policy on that subject. Until a policy is made decisions will have to be made case by case.
It makes a difference to me, if for example the group members are still around or the websites are still up.
I'll try to get an agreement and a definite on this matter as soon as I can.
#4
Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:10 PM
#5
Posted 10 December 2011 - 11:00 PM
But an already inactive group is treated more leniently because it's impossible to confirm anything with them.
#6
Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:52 AM
Edited by hados9, 11 December 2011 - 12:53 AM.
#8
Posted 11 December 2011 - 08:30 AM
No, that's the opposite of what I said.
lol i wasnt talking about you i was talking about nert5 said but its ok
#9
Posted 11 December 2011 - 09:59 AM
#10
Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:33 PM
I just wanted to know where you stand on this issue because I have seen an inactive group with a no hosting policy that has had its projects uploaded on batoto.
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#11
Posted 11 December 2011 - 01:37 PM
Since policies need to be short, clear and at the same time cover as much as possible the result of which can be quite abstract in nature so it'lll take a bit more time to even put something into words - and of course I will need to consult the Administrators and the other Moderators about it as well but I promise to work on a policy on regarding this subject.
P.S.: nert5 welcome to Batoto and thanks for your constructive participation in the fourms!
Edit: For policy see what Grumpy stated below.
Edited by mhh, 16 December 2011 - 11:41 AM.
#12
Posted 11 December 2011 - 08:18 PM
I assume this would be ok to Upload?
#13
Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:07 PM
#14
Posted 12 December 2011 - 03:17 AM
#15
Posted 12 December 2011 - 05:56 AM
Whether or not they're active or not is irrelevant. Their rule stands to the end of time.
Problem is that we have no way to verify something once they're long gone and we have the default rule of "allowed". If their status is confirmed as not allowed and they've disappeared or w/e, it's still not allowed.
#16
Posted 12 December 2011 - 04:33 PM
I think the wishes of any group (active or inactive) should be followed until they are changed by the group. If a group became inactive three years ago but never lifted the ban then ten years from now those items shouldn't be uploaded.
I just wanted to know where you stand on this issue because I have seen an inactive group with a no hosting policy that has had its projects uploaded on batoto.
Can you just name the groups? I think dealing with concrete examples will cause less confusion than hypotheticals.
If what you said is true, then that is a mistake that the comic is uploaded, but it is not the policy of Batoto. One important thing to remember is that regular users upload to the site, so mistakes will happen. Or, sometimes we have gotten special permission from groups, so we're not actually violating any policy at all.
#17
Posted 12 December 2011 - 07:38 PM
#18
Posted 12 December 2011 - 07:57 PM
Deleted all of them. Next time, please be specific from the start. ^^;;Condensation
#19
Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:15 AM
What about offering a vault-type option? In case of closure plus communication failure, you'd be able to post scans from groups who otherwise say no? I think that would be respectful to groups that want fans to go to their site. Plus, it would also reassure and in the long run help the fans that don't want to go to sites that don't listen to groups (You Know Who I Mean). Something like:
"Do not upload. ScanGroup has agreed to let Batoto upload their scans if they are inactive for X months/years and/or they no longer have a site and/or forum. Click here to report if you think these conditions have been met for ScanGroup."
Any group that agrees to this would also agree you could take their scans out of the vault if they announce they will be closing.
Obviously most groups would not use all of those and/or-clauses. To clarify, here's what you might ask a group interested in a vault clause (or whatever you want to call it):
I originally put in an option about a domain lapsing (inspired by wanting to read Hakkenden tonight but Bliss can't be found, alas!), but I think that's covered by a site shutting down. FYI in case I'm wrong.
Thanks for everyone's hard work! Hope this helps. If not, well, I wasn't doing anything tonight, anyway.
#20
Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:49 AM
What about offering a vault-type option? In case of closure plus communication failure, you'd be able to post scans from groups who otherwise say no? I think that would be respectful to groups that want fans to go to their site. Plus, it would also reassure and in the long run help the fans that don't want to go to sites that don't listen to groups (You Know Who I Mean). Something like:
grumpy once said, that if a group said no to hosting their scans and then they closed it will stay as no.