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why is chinatsu best girl??


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Poll: favorite heroine (186 member(s) have cast votes)

who is your favorite heroine?

  1. Gaju Akagi (22 votes [9.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  2. Chinatsu Hiyama (106 votes [45.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 45.89%

  3. Shizuku Hanaoka (38 votes [16.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.45%

  4. Mako Akagi (64 votes [27.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.71%

  5. Akira Koumoto (1 votes [0.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.43%

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not trying to pick a fight, but she isn't my taste, but a lot (a big bunch here) likes her a lot, but I don't get why

 

so I made this so I can get some answers or just talk about what heroines each one likes and why (but mostly want to know why so much love for chinatsu 

so I can understand when she gets the tatara bowl and I don't feel betrayed ... like in Nisekoi or Kaminomi xD)

also, 'cause I really like the comment section here in bato.to that can talk and discuss like normal persons (mostly fo the time)

 

extra: the poll is for the heroines for ch.36 this part http://vatoto.com/reader#dc57cfd48bd5e4db_76 



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While Chinatsu is my favorite I don't really want her as a heroine unless she decides she wants to pursue romance then i'll support it. Personally Chinatsu is easily one of my all time favorites. She and Tatara are so similar yet different at the same time, she has her own story and rivalries that are expanded on, and she and Tatara are both supportive of each other and are both growing into their own roles while trying to bring out the best in the other. 

 

Honestly it's so hard to give proper explanations for why I love Chinatsu so much but something about her drew me into the series when I started it earlier during the year. 



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While I understand that Chinatsu is bringing the best out in Tatara, I honestly can't stand her attitude, where she does things just to spite Akira, putting her partner directly into the fight. She's just someone who can't accept her mistakes easily and always has to put up a front, to the point where she refuses to become vulnerable, which is what she needs to do to have some synch with Tatara. And she constantly blames him, when in a good portion of the rehearsals and competitions, it's HER fault for being so stubborn.

 

I think the reason most people like her, though, particularly men, is the fact that she can't be easily made to change and is essentially, as Marisa stated, a "wild mare". When there's someone like that, it's very tempting to try to "tame" her, because of the challenge involved. It's a similar reason as to why women prefer "bad boys" to "nice guys"; the thrill of making them change is what makes their blood run faster.

 

I prefer Mako simply because she's sweet but also knows how to put Gaju in his place (I loved it when she hit him!). Not as much of a doormat as Shizuku (I'm sorry, but I gotta call a spade a spade), but not as obnoxious and temperamental as Chinatsu.


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This is just my personal take on why I gravitate towards this character but, I think I like Chinatsu from this series for the same reason that I like Kurusu Hiro from "Kono Oto Tomare", in that their initial introduction as an inherently unlikable and antagonistic individual, as long as they are SOMEWHERE on that scale even if they aren't actual antagonists, comes into a direct clash with the actual relationships they end up forming once they get over their own individual hangups.  Case in point, Kurusu comes into Kono Oto as someone trying to break up their club, proceeds to rub everyone the wrong way and eventually enrage the club's president and greatest pacifist, Takezou, who continues to hold a... questionable opinion of her personality for the rest of the series.  Given that he's the person who assists her recovery from her depression and insecurity, and stands up for her the most, she develops a very strong crush on him which she herself struggles with after her intentional efforts to destroy his club.  It's this very conflict that I appreciate the most.  Male or female, if a character is introduced in a way that is might disgust the audience, then grows outside the confines of their original character constraints and then begins to hate those parts of themselves by which they were originally defined, and desperately seek to reach the kind of purity they assume the original cast has, I find that to be powerful.  Koe no Katachi gave me this feeling in the utmost, more so than pretty much any other series I can think of at the moment, where watching that boy awaken to his hideous actions was like watching a demon in the pits of hell scream out for God.  In Hiro's case, she wasn't nearly as horrible as that boy from Koe no Katachi was to that deaf girl, but she is spends a good minute screaming at herself for loving someone who "deserves better than her".  Chinatsu is a bit different from these cases in that she doesn't quite thinks of herself as behaving terribly towards Tatara in the beginning but rather just views her personality when juxtaposed with Tatara's endless font of forgiveness as an impossible scenario, then beats herself up (ala the scene where she's crying uncontrollably into her bed after berating Tatara) while unavoidably still being the mean kid that she is.  Yet that conflict between wanting to be his partner, and yet treating him horribly, then fearing that her treatment is destroying what she wants, it all still exists.

 

Anyway I've rambled on enough, tl;dr - I'm a sadist who likes to watch shitty people suffer the fate of growing enough empathy to be pained horribly by who they are, because imperfect people are far more beautiful than perfect ones to me.

 

Doubt any of this is of help to anyone, it's just my weird-ass opinion, but this thread is empty and I figured I'd contribute what little I've got.


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For me, I like Chinatsu because she is the OPPOSITE of Tatara. We all now, Tatara is a reverse person and honestly, someone with different personality will brings his best. Unlike Mako and Shizuku, there is something about Chinatsu that is fiery. I am female, but when it comes to competition, I relate to Chinatsu the most. I guess it's that winning determination.
I don't expect romance, but you have to admit from partnership, Chinatsu has the best compability with Tatara. It's also nice to see both Tatara and Chinatsu grow in the dancing floor, as Tatara starts to be a leader and Chinatsu is willing to balance the dance with him. The fact that they develop as characters at the same times makes Chinatsu is special for Tatara. She is the first partner that push him so far and beyond. At first I didn't see anything special, but after the tournament starts, I like her when she tries to put up with Tatara.

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The partner duo that is being pushed is definitely Chinatsu and him. She is by far the greatest foil to him and it being used as a device to turn their duo in a monster that can compete against the likes of kyoharu and shizuku. It's a very interseting dynamic that's been done before but the art in this series is so amazing.

 

' 3 ' I am a simple person drawn to this series beautiful art. Also Hyoudou is best girl xd? him wiggling in the bathroom during the hot springs chapter hahahahaha.

 

As for the romance in the series is a very subtle and small part of the series as it focuses more on the dance. Haha I kind of would like to see him tie the knot with Shizuku but I don't know if that will happen it might be Chinatsu since these dance pairs are kind of like marriage xd? It's very nice to see series like this and baby steps with pretty subtle romance that enhances the series rather than becomes dull drama.

 

Personally the waifu I would choose is Shizuku Hanaoka because that's just my preference.



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The partner duo that is being pushed is definitely Chinatsu and him. She is by far the greatest foil to him and it being used as a device to turn their duo in a monster that can compete against the likes of kyoharu and shizuku. It's a very interseting dynamic that's been done before but the art in this series is so amazing.

 

' 3 ' I am a simple person drawn to this series beautiful art. Also Hyoudou is best girl xd? him wiggling in the bathroom during the hot springs chapter hahahahaha.

 

As for the romance in the series is a very subtle and small part of the series as it focuses more on the dance. Haha I kind of would like to see him tie the knot with Shizuku but I don't know if that will happen it might be Chinatsu since these dance pairs are kind of like marriage xd? It's very nice to see series like this and baby steps with pretty subtle romance that enhances the series rather than becomes dull drama.

 

Personally the waifu I would choose is Shizuku Hanaoka because that's just my preference.

 

Considering that

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, your thoughts make sense.


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Character dynamics I guess? Chinatsu just brings more to the table than other characters in terms of Tatara.
He's literally never been more expressive with any other person.


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Because Chinatsu is bae



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Considering that

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, your thoughts make sense.

well shizuku is out of question , it;s obvious that shizuku have insane crush for hyodou , so yeah i don't want  pair shizuku x hyodou to broke up just because tatara.



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well shizuku is out of question , it;s obvious that shizuku have insane crush for hyodou , so yeah i don't want  pair shizuku x hyodou to broke up just because tatara.

 

Can you give me examples of her crush? Because as far as I've seen, she doesn't seem to see him as anything other than her dance partner/childhood friend.


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Can you give me examples of her crush? Because as far as I've seen, she doesn't seem to see him as anything other than her dance partner/childhood friend.

it's the opposite , from the moment that hyodou first show up , chinatsu reaction is more than dance partner , just like how she said  in earlier chapter and when he taken by gaju " he only cared for dance , and doesn't care  about my personal feelings at all"-Shizuku , from that sentence it's allready shown THAT SHIZUKU have crush on hyodou, i don't know man take this with grain of salt. if you don't get it i think you must be denser than average people 



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Chinatsu is the best developed female character in the manga. She's headstrong and has a very strong will, but she's also got her fair share of weight to carry. We've seen her insecure, angstly and unsure. She hates Akira, but she loves dance. She struggels with following, but is the most beautiful girl on the dancefloor - as Tatara once put it. ;)

Also, Chii-chan and Tatara are challenging gender roles in their sport. Their dance is not normal, because their roles are not normal with a strong female like Chii-chan. They're at their best, not when Chii-chan is in her classic follow role, because she can't do that, but when they're both on equal ground bringing harmony to their otherwise unbalanced dance. They're the opposite to the Kugimiya pair with a very strong leader.
 

 

Mako is too cute for my liking and Shizuku... well... too perfect? Besides, I don't like Tataras crush on her, because I totally ship him with Chii-chan.



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Because Chinatsu is bae


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it's the opposite , from the moment that hyodou first show up , chinatsu reaction is more than dance partner , just like how she said  in earlier chapter and when he taken by gaju " he only cared for dance , and doesn't care  about my personal feelings at all"-Shizuku , from that sentence it's allready shown THAT SHIZUKU have crush on hyodou, i don't know man take this with grain of salt. if you don't get it i think you must be denser than average people 

 

"Personal feelings" doesn't necessarily mean that she has a crush on him. She just feels she had no say in it and was blatantly pissed. Also, Chinatsu wasn't in the picture in this arc, o you mentioning her makes no sense. So while I respect that you think Shizuku has a crush on Hyoudou, I don't share that opinion. Mostly because when it comes to dance pairings, as far as I've seen, it's like a job: You shouldn't mix your personal issues with your professional ones.


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I prefer Chinatsu over any other as romance for Tatara, but i think he is going to end up with Shizuku.

Why i think this you ask? only because how the manga starts the very first page "All-England Championship Finals" show us the future and that is Tatara and Shizuku for sure.

Bit sad about it, but oh well, he still maybe end up with Chinatsu.

I am like her, because she put up a fight even with weak lead and carry all the weight of all dances herself until Tatara realize.

In manga this is well explained, in the anime not realy, but funny enought i like the Tatara in the anime better than in the manga, because of some stuff that not happend or  have better represented in anime than manga, thinking  the Chinatsu-Tatara dances. But this is just my taste :)

Over all, the other characters not realy have any real problems compare to Chinatsu or Tatara, at least not this big like these two.


Edited by Mirginda, 13 December 2017 - 06:17 AM.


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Would this make you happy?

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Edited by ElBichoRaro, 15 January 2018 - 04:42 PM.

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glad that I remember to read this thread before the big close up xD

This is just my personal take on why I gravitate towards this character but, I think I like Chinatsu from this series for the same reason that I like Kurusu Hiro from "Kono Oto Tomare", in that their initial introduction as an inherently unlikable and antagonistic individual, as long as they are SOMEWHERE on that scale even if they aren't actual antagonists, comes into a direct clash with the actual relationships they end up forming once they get over their own individual hangups.  Case in point, Kurusu comes into Kono Oto as someone trying to break up their club, proceeds to rub everyone the wrong way and eventually enrage the club's president and greatest pacifist, Takezou, who continues to hold a... questionable opinion of her personality for the rest of the series.  Given that he's the person who assists her recovery from her depression and insecurity, and stands up for her the most, she develops a very strong crush on him which she herself struggles with after her intentional efforts to destroy his club.  It's this very conflict that I appreciate the most.  Male or female, if a character is introduced in a way that is might disgust the audience, then grows outside the confines of their original character constraints and then begins to hate those parts of themselves by which they were originally defined, and desperately seek to reach the kind of purity they assume the original cast has, I find that to be powerful.  Koe no Katachi gave me this feeling in the utmost, more so than pretty much any other series I can think of at the moment, where watching that boy awaken to his hideous actions was like watching a demon in the pits of hell scream out for God.  In Hiro's case, she wasn't nearly as horrible as that boy from Koe no Katachi was to that deaf girl, but she is spends a good minute screaming at herself for loving someone who "deserves better than her".  Chinatsu is a bit different from these cases in that she doesn't quite thinks of herself as behaving terribly towards Tatara in the beginning but rather just views her personality when juxtaposed with Tatara's endless font of forgiveness as an impossible scenario, then beats herself up (ala the scene where she's crying uncontrollably into her bed after berating Tatara) while unavoidably still being the mean kid that she is.  Yet that conflict between wanting to be his partner, and yet treating him horribly, then fearing that her treatment is destroying what she wants, it all still exists.

 

Anyway I've rambled on enough, tl;dr - I'm a sadist who likes to watch shitty people suffer the fate of growing enough empathy to be pained horribly by who they are, because imperfect people are far more beautiful than perfect ones to me.

 

Doubt any of this is of help to anyone, it's just my weird-ass opinion, but this thread is empty and I figured I'd contribute what little I've got.

it actually helped a lot, all the series you talked about I loved them a bunch and with the other comments I really get how Chinatsu got so much love and I can understand if she ends with Tatara, although I'm more with the vision of @ElBichoRaro. 

 

I can acknowledge her as the best pair/partner for Tatara at this moment and probably until the end of the series, 'cause she brought and was the key to release the talent of Tatara as a leader and as a dancer, but I can choose her as a heroine, I like Mako more (blame me for liking cute things and her growth with tatara and after with gaju was good for me), Shizuku is too perfect so I prefer that she's the one that helped tatara to start.

 

about the Shizuku thing, she doesn't have a crush on Hyoudou, well maybe she does, but it's not that clear xD. She had a problem 'cause she has an inferiority complex with him and the personal feelings is more that she didn't felt like she was worthy as a partner.