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Yes, Sagara is becoming even more pretty and cunning and manipulative as ever. I doubt if what she tells to Maruna is true. Considering that she 'see a lot of Samphati', which if my memory is not mistaken, Shamphati has been pushed to Crescent Gate with Kasak which is the sura realm. And I thought Kasak doesn't even mention meeting with her, so Sagara must be telling lie.

Sagara is clearly lying because she's been stuck in nonexistence for the past seven years! I just hope Maruna wises up.

 

Agni says that the one possesing Siera is a strong being, so is she just holding back for all this past many times? My guess is she might just attack to the point of not causing dead to its target, because if she really scheming all these scenes; she who has no count murder-- is going in vain. But really, Shakun..

 

Well, I wonder if it's significant that this Taraka/Siera/Shakuntala hybrid hasn't made any offensive moves yet. Of course its eyes are open, maybe that counts as an offensive move, but I wonder if the actions of the Taraka-possessed beings are still influenced by their original personalities. It's been creepy and all, but maybe it's as close to a big ol' softie as any Taraka clan sura can get. Not sure.


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Yeah; if this thing has Siera/Shakun's "0 kill" state, then it may share their pacifistic mindset...

...though that doesn't say anything about whether they'll cause any damamges or not, since the fusion looks in deep pain, and might lash out because of that.

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Wow... Its so silent in here I almost can hear my own thoughts.

 

So, apart from everything that we see in this latest chapter one thing is bugging me and that is the scene in which Shess is crying and apparently begging for sparing his beloved's life. Does that suggest he had a beloved many centuries ago whom was killed by Gandharva's hand and now he recall it after seeing the Gandharva's Frozen Tears?!



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So, apart from everything that we see in this latest chapter one thing is bugging me and that is the scene in which Shess is crying and apparently begging for sparing his beloved's life. Does that suggest he had a beloved many centuries ago whom was killed by Gandharva's hand and now he recall it after seeing the Gandharva's Frozen Tears?!

 

Not really, there is no need for Gandharva to be the culprit. The Frozen tears just revoked Shess preexisting trauma. I doubt that Shess would be willing to help Gandharva if he was responsible for killing the love of his life. If anything, I'd wager that it was a God that killed her, considering how much Shess has been avoiding them.



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Some interesting info from recent chapters.

 

Agni says Shakuntala meets the requirements to enter paradise since she has never killed any humans before (the reason Paradisial Flare doesn't work on her). Confirms even High level sura can enter paradise. The condition to enter paradise seems to be "not killing humans". Agni is the only god capable of entering paradise, meaning Agni is the only god that hasn't committed murder before.

 

Kasak is constantly asleep to preserve whats left of his lifespan. Apparently him being awake and fighting will lower the short amount of time he has left (confirmed by Agni).

 

Confirms Sagara / Cloche were right that Shakuntala is indeed dead, she was eating just as they said and by a Taraka. And Ghandharva being the massive idiot he is, is being manipulated by the Taraka who ate and is taking the form of his Daughter. Confirms the shells the Taraka are wearing that make them look like they came from another can are Sura the Taraka ate and took the form of. 

 

Well at least we get to see what Frozen Tears does to a being that's not a 5th Zen god, poor Shess.

 

Agni and Maruna meeting 2.0. Maruna lets Agni use insight on him and tells him he will not be the one to judge and either kill or spare him for all the sins he committed (Leez and Maruna meeting v4 probably next chapter).

 

The Taraka-Sierra is probably waiting for the right moment to eat Ghandharva and increase its own power massively.

 

According to Agni the current "Optimal Future" is one were Ghandharva lives (?) for some reason. The gods (except Agni) don't seem to care about optimal future instead opting to create a "practical future".

 

Agni has put a massive death flag on himself during his talk with Brilith. Says he has a way to solve the current situation by himself. In before him solving things ends with him being weakened (like when he used the Neutral Bow), eaten by the Taraka (probably in Ghandharva's place), or killed and forced to take years to reform leaving the planet without him for years to come.


Edited by Phaere, 26 April 2018 - 05:56 PM.


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So, for a long time Agni wanted to kill Gandharva but other gods didn't let him just for the sake of the optimal future. Therefore he and Kubera had to find way to change gods' opinion from super Indifferent assholes about humans' life to super caring bastards. And they actually succeeded (I wonder what they did) and now all the gods wanna kill Gandharva and the only obstacle between them and their goal is Agni's permission... COOL>:) turn out the guy isn't as stupid as everyone thinks.

 

Third encounter between Leez and Maruna, this time Leez  is without the Golden Knight and Maruna doesn't retaliate... things gonna get dirty.

 

Despite the fact that Gandharva knows that thing isn't his daughter, he still insist on helping it. I think he always wanted a daughter like this: someone with the face of Menaka and wickedness of Gandharva.



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Hm... Not so sure if that's quite fair to say. Instead, I would wager Ghandarva is so desperate to believe that Shakuntala still lives that he is willfully deluding himself into believing it is her, even though he knows that it really isn't. I think that's more in line with his character thus far. I mean, this whole story, he's been spiraling ever downwards, so... for him to be at this point isn't too unexpected.

 

Interestingly, with the revelation that Kaz wishes Leez would die in order to not suffer, it's looking like Maruna might actually be more able to grant a wish for Kaz's happiness than Shess would. 



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Holy.... apparently Kali impersonating Visnu tricked Menaka into making a deal which took her "time" and future in order to give her the power to change Ghandharva. According to Kali; Menaka in her male form is the 2nd strongest in the Ghandharva clan and would become king when Ghandharva dies. This was supposed to be the optimal future actually. Agni kills Ghandharva and Menaka takes male form to become king and pave the way for peace. And would of been the best possibly future for defeating Kali.

 

But being an idiot she got tricked by Kali and sold that future to her. Due to this Brahma and Shiva want to destroy the universe and start over though Visnu wants things to go on and see how they play out and see if Menaka can actually change Ghandharva.

 

And also another plot twist: Menaka might be Taraka, or at least becomes her after she dies due to the deal she made with Kali.


Edited by Phaere, 16 May 2018 - 04:45 PM.


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HOLY....!!!! That was some TWIST!! I personally never would've anticipated it. Even more the reason for loving Taraka, now that I finally know about her origin.

 

On the other hand, kinda feel sorry for Gandharva because apparently no one except for her own daughter love him for the sake of being Gandharva.



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Menaka being Taraka....damn, i need a time to process all of this.