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Morale gray, attempted and failed.


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truepurple

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I can see clearly what the author is trying to do, and it's a interesting idea. A distopic/apocalyptic like future so that traditional morality doesn't apply, that different people having different morality based on needs etc. A world of morale gray.

 

It's first two moral gray issues went off fine enough;  cannibalism, and incest (even though it didn't actually happen, I guess the author felt uncomfortable crossing that line)

 

The Eternal fire guy. I think he's set to be the morale straightman that actually has the most muddled morality of all. When he arrives at the village he has his hard moral values and is inflexible with them, leading to the atrocity of slaughtering the village. Latter he probably has experienced some horrors up close, some of his own making, and realized the error of his inflexible morale ways. But is attached to the town or some people in the town and don't want them to die, and he is needed somehow for the town to survive which is why he won't pay his vengeance debt with his life.. My guess is that they are using his powers to burn people for fuel, since his power burns them to ash where as actually burning people doesn't work that well. Without him burning people, everyone freezes to death. So far this hasn't been explored/done well, but there is still story room to expand which I am sure will happen. Then the MC will realize that neither Eternal fire nor winter witch are his true enemies (winter witch probably had her reasons too) but will struggle giving up his vengeance.

 

Aside from the lack of explanation that they will presumably get around to giving, but they should have already worked more in then they have already IMO.  "I'm only interested in vengeance above all else" (at least that is what they will admit to, but they will actually show some interest in other stuff, tsundre style)  troope is both well overused and tired, but it also means all the morale gray build up around Eternal fire is lost on the MC, and thus on the story itself.  It would be much more interesting if MC had tried to understand what Eternal fire was saying and think of a recompensation price other then his death.  Also MC and his sister has been selflessly keeping the villagers alive and seemed to be very attached to them. But not once does he mention them. "What did I do to you?" "You killed my sister" not "You killed my sister and slaughtered our village." Latter when he is talking to the regen girl that resembled his sister so much, he again mentions his sisters death, his mindless vengeance, but no mention of the village. Like the village suddenly didn't matter at all, everything eclipsed by the death of his sister, give me a break. Funny how camera girl doesn't mention her gang rape to regen girl too, I mean if you wanted to convince her she is not on the right morale side of things...

 

And having taken care of the village, the MC has to have compassion in his heart. So when his tag along is in trouble, he should drop the tsundre act and try to help him. I mean simply just caring about him because he is a friendly new person filling up the void in his heart left by the slaughter of sister and village.

 

The town so far as at least four principles that they go by

No pets, they are all for food.

Human females are for sex, need more children for the future.

Slaves. Because then you can get the work done that needs to be done? Might be the reasoning given.

Catering to those with powers, even to the extreme degree of allowing one to own dogs that are suppose to be food and furthermore to use those dogs to rape girls.

 

The rape thing is the most flawed of these.

First of all, the biggest issue seems to be the lack of food, not lack of people. Why would they want more people to feed? 

If you rape someone, it can destroy their mind, making it so that they can't be the resource of acting as parent and raising the resulting babies. Meaning someone else needs to do it, and clearly the fathers can't be bothered.

Obviously gang rape is not a very effective way to fertilize someone, especially as I doubt these assholes would be gentle. They could destroy the persons ability to reproduce.

Children, like girls of 13 years of age, do not have bodies well built for giving birth yet. Especially of issue is the size of hips and everything, someone giving birth that young is likely to need a c section to deliver, (which can make it so they can't get pregnant again)  and is riskier.

Very bad use of resources.

 

Slaves,

Slavery is actually pretty inefficient.  Especially personal ownership slavery. Slaves have little motivation. And you need to devote resources to keeping them in line.

 

Catering to those with power. I suppose it makes sense that you would want people with power on your side rather then against you. On the other hand, if soldiers are constantly hurting people, that has a very negative effect on general mood.  And it becomes a slippery slope what you are willing to let them get away with to keep them on your side.  Also, regeneration turned against you isn’t that risky, why would they give such latitude to a regen guy that they would allow him dogs, personal slaves, and dog rape bestiality? It shouldn't be that hard to keep him in line without resorting to such extreme evil bribery.


Edited by truepurple, 02 August 2016 - 05:52 AM.


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Its not moral gray its full blown immorality.. They treat slaves as disposable which is why they constantly breed and they have regenerating people to supply food to slaves, that's not inefficient. They devote no resources to keep them in line because they know their lives are over if they disobey. It's a slow start but its already super interesting, the author has a vision and it's not generic.