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[Grumpy]

Major item for me, though, you guys don't really have to do anything as it'll all be handled smoothly, hopefully...
I guess this announcement might get a bit technical. Only part that I do want everyone to know is that if there's hiccups, just use the gear button to change image servers.
 
You can stop reading now unless you want to actually learn the plans.............................
 
Image servers are getting swapped to different hardware and locations. Generally to spread it out more and get more bandwidth throughput in total.

• US1 image server is being taken down. It has already been removed from DNS and will be offline from 30th of April.
• US1 is being replaced with nothing because the newest one as I'm expecting CA1 to just handle the load. Whether or not it can is something I'll have to watch. Early stats show promise...
• By mid ~ end of May, I will likely remove US2 as well, in place of new server also in the US (but central us).

Why is this change being made?

• US1 has been very buggy... Goes down very often and generally under-performing to expectations. I think a good portion of image server complaints go here.
• US1 and US2 are located in eastern USA. And I know people from Asia have a difficult time getting a good connection to our image servers.
• CA1 is even more east than US1 and US2 (two US are in same location). So, I really want a more western one to counter and give Asia better traffic.

One actually in Asia would work best, but honestly just can't even remotely afford it. International bandwidth for servers in Asia is crazy expensive. That and some of our 2MB per black and white image aren't exactly a good match. Seriously, what the hell guys.
One in west coast usa is next best performer for asia, and still trying to find one. If I do find one, it'll be there. But again, not finding any in good price range right now, so may have to settle for central USA.
 
Longer down the road sometime... I will be replacing the one in Netherlands with a bigger but generally same area (Germany, France, other Netherlands... they're all kinda close).
 
 
Once all the image server moving is complete... (no date promises)

• We'll actually only have 3 image servers from previous 4, but expecting higher capacity.
• I will begin experimenting optional compression of images (default will be full, and user can select compressed). That will, again, provide better speeds to people in Asia, should they choose to.
• I'm going to try to make the server assignment to be more location based. For example, if you're from Europe, you will almost always be assigned the EU server rather than something else. Currently, it's mostly which server can afford to give you as some of them have caps.

In case you need pics.

Spoiler

 

I don't know why I redrew same arrows...

[Samhill]

I won't pretend to know anything about what you might need, but if you give me what you're looking for I'll use some Google-fu to hunt something down.

[2hot4you]

Did you really just draw a worldmap to make it more clear to some people who suck at geography? XD

 

nice~

[Everath]

Dat world map looks smooth!

[AcidWeb]

Awesome news.

[Armchair]

Spoiler

 

I don't know why I redrew same arrows...

lmao nice map

[OMGWTFBBQPONIES]

That map should definitely be above the "you can stop reading now" line o:

[Agnir]

Grumpy I don't know much about servers, but I live in India and servers here are pretty cheap. Anyway check this out https://in.godaddy.com/offers/default.aspx?gclid=CjwKEAjw3_ypBRCwoKqKw5P9wgsSJAAbi2K9Bv1E6zR882LRNyoBPRwqqJDX_LWUn9RxfvxPull0rRoCxgzw_wcB&isc=hos1in23&tmskey=1domwebhost_5&currencytype=INR&cvosrc=ppc.google.godaddy%20server&matchtype=e&ef_id=VSLQ@QAABTuyhc16:20150428142237:s.  

 

66 ruppe = 1$. I don't know much about them sorry .

 

In case you can't view

 

 

59 ruppe = 0.9$

449 ruppe = 7$

599 ruppe = 9.5$(ALL THESE VALUSE ARE APPROX)

 

well I checked godady other sites the price is pretty much the same you can ignore this if you want.

Edited by Agnir, 28 April 2015 - 02:58 PM.

[keoulvi]

Grumpy I don't know much about servers, but I live in India and servers here are pretty cheap. Anyway check this out https://in.godaddy.com/offers/default.aspx?gclid=CjwKEAjw3_ypBRCwoKqKw5P9wgsSJAAbi2K9Bv1E6zR882LRNyoBPRwqqJDX_LWUn9RxfvxPull0rRoCxgzw_wcB&isc=hos1in23&tmskey=1domwebhost_5&currencytype=INR&cvosrc=ppc.google.godaddy%20server&matchtype=e&ef_id=VSLQ@QAABTuyhc16:20150428142237:s.  

 

66 ruppe = 1$. I don't know much about them sorry .

 

In case you can't view

 

 

59 ruppe = 0.9$

449 ruppe = 7$

599 ruppe = 9.5$(ALL THESE VALUSE ARE APPROX)

 

despite with big name, godaddy service isn't great mate

 

some japanese dedi

http://us.gmocloud.com/services/usa/jp.html

http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/tokyo-japan

 

singapore would be great, but yeah its damn expensive

[Bobby W.]

Oh well, so far so good from here.

[arimareiji]

Jiggling image servers? Someone call Gainax, stat! (^_~)

[Grumpy]

Thanks for googling guys on servers. But, it's honestly not a fit for Batoto. And I know no one's gonna find a good one in Asia. Even at wholesale pricing (like if you're a datacenter), the int'l bandwidth cost is just too high in asia. So, there's no possibility that an end user would get a close price to what I need.

 

Like the godaddy india one... Hop over to the dedicated side and... even the biggest one is far too small...

I also can't order any from non-english contracts. I actually need to read it. A lot of hosting companies don't actually let you use the specs to the max. Like they lower their advertised price by putting requirements like "fair use" and once you start using up that bandwidth, they'll complain or throttle you. Those tend to be hidden in terms.

[mereghost]

And with the kind of traffic you get, makes the best possible route, a CDN, prohibitive. =/ Not sure if I'd like to be in your shoes right now.

[aaguila10]

have you look into using amazon S3? its a great solution, they can handle the workload and their policy pay for what you use is great, also they have servers in asia
http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/

[david82794]

Hey Grumpy, I'm guessing the downtime from before was because of the image servers being switched up.

Just letting you know about a minor thing that doesn't really affect anything.

"Image Server 1" is gone but the rest are still named 2,3,4.

Not sure if that was intended. If it was then please ignore this and forgive my OCD.

[Samhill]

Thanks for googling guys on servers. But, it's honestly not a fit for Batoto. And I know no one's gonna find a good one in Asia. Even at wholesale pricing (like if you're a datacenter), the int'l bandwidth cost is just too high in asia. So, there's no possibility that an end user would get a close price to what I need.

 

Like the godaddy india one... Hop over to the dedicated side and... even the biggest one is far too small...

I also can't order any from non-english contracts. I actually need to read it. A lot of hosting companies don't actually let you use the specs to the max. Like they lower their advertised price by putting requirements like "fair use" and once you start using up that bandwidth, they'll complain or throttle you. Those tend to be hidden in terms.

 

What do you mean by international bandwidth? Asia charges you to send bandwidth outside Asia? If I had a better understanding of your needs (specs, price, port speed, bandwidth) I could try to find something.

[Grumpy]

have you look into using amazon S3? its a great solution, they can handle the workload and their policy pay for what you use is great, also they have servers in asia
http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/

Pretty much every form of "cloud" hosting will use up our yearly budget in under a month. S3 included. It's great if you use little since you only pay for what you use. It's terrible for us, because we use a ton.

 

Hey Grumpy, I'm guessing the downtime from before was because of the image servers being switched up.

Just letting you know about a minor thing that doesn't really affect anything.

"Image Server 1" is gone but the rest are still named 2,3,4.

Not sure if that was intended. If it was then please ignore this and forgive my OCD.

Yes. It was intentional because the 1 was the one that was removed. I usually change up the numbers each time, but since it's not done yet, didn't want to.

 

What do you mean by international bandwidth? Asia charges you to send bandwidth outside Asia? If I had a better understanding of your needs (specs, price, port speed, bandwidth) I could try to find something.

This post honestly wasn't meant as a request for people to assist... Not that I don't appreciate it, but because I know the market well enough that unless you are professionally in the business of hosting, there's really not much of a chance you finding one. And if you were such a person, it'd likely have to come as a discount or specially offered to just me, not as a public offering to get to pricing that I'd consider. Because the pricing point I need is lower than wholesale prices.