No, i think it was only dragon Halfs... i could be wrong though.
It's been a while since I read the finite, but didn't Brahma just make Vritra halfs stronger as in higher transcendental value?
No, i think it was only dragon Halfs... i could be wrong though.
It's been a while since I read the finite, but didn't Brahma just make Vritra halfs stronger as in higher transcendental value?
References:
The Golden Knight turned black (when not using Counterattack) on at least these two occasions:
more references:
New question for the Yuta section (this came up in the Webtoons comment section, asked by Sk Douk):
How was Yuta able to sense Leez's feelings when she didn't have the scarf with her? (2-135)
Edited to add more reference numbers
Edited by Horseshoe Crab, 04 September 2016 - 09:59 PM.
Because ~*LOVE*~
But in all seriousness, maybe it's connected to why Leez can understand Yuta, but no other sura. And I hope there's a better reason than...you know...love...
Edited by cocoa_mocha, 21 August 2016 - 01:52 AM.
Gotta love this guy.
So there's a penalty for gods using other gods' god level items. Does this apply to the primeval god's items? Gods seem to have no trouble with handling Brahma's barrier item, but that could be an exception.
Both Kubera and Leez have used the Sword of Re, which was made by Kali. I don't know if either are considered "gods" at this point in the story, but if they are, would that mean both of them would be hit with this mysterious penalty?
This question comes up again and again (and Nualie just reminded me of it), but:
Why didn't God Kubera pick up his own items, instead of having the snakes go through the hassle of retrieving them for him? (Frozen Tears/The One Standing Before Me chapters)
Edited by cocoa_mocha, 05 September 2016 - 01:09 AM.
Gotta love this guy.
My other unanswered questions: What role did Kubera have in Leez's past? Did they meet previously when she was younger?
**Basically...Where did that 'feeling' and brief flashback come from that Leez thought of when Kubera patted her head(1-28)?Spoiler
I think that feeling was the same one she felt around Agni. It's like she can detect gods, but doesn't know it.
Thing I wondered:
How did Saha know Laila's real name? He knew about Leez's from her not having an ID card in the transport ship, so how did he learn about Laila's?
They problem found solidarity by them both being in the same situation, he used the human search system, or he could have learned about it from that oracle he got.
Some mysteries and my theories
How did Leez learn to understand sura language? Either it has to do with God Kubera's disappearance or Leez is on track to godhood or even surahood (becoming Ananta). It was suggested that Leez will become stronger than Yuta.
Why didn't God Kubera pick up his own items? He's weakening/fading. He can't wander as much, and must stay near Rindhallow to do stuff that Currygom never explained. God Kubera did tell Leez that he's not as free as she thinks he is.
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There's a penalty for gods using other god items? I missed this. If that's the case then why would God Kubera freely go around to other gods to see if they need his golden knight? Edit: I'll answer my own question. (Just started rereading Kubera) Perhaps Vishnu has changed the rules after N0.
Edited by tkl.ee, 23 March 2017 - 10:14 AM.
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Some questions I have not noticed yet:
In the 4th chapter of the "Asha" arc, what is the greater significance of the bound people in Vishnu's game with Asha? What is so special about them, that killing them would increase divine affinity?
A comment on webtoons, a blog excerpt, says that Mirha was among the seven paragons who opted out of the game, which should mean that their names are not anything special.
Is there any connection between the Gandharva creating an ocean in N5 and the flooding of Carte in the same year?
If I recall, Gandharva created his ocean while being attacked by Taraka and the flooding originated from the water channel, which Taraka could use to get around (based on my best recollection/understanding which may be faulty).
Some questions I have not noticed yet:
In the 4th chapter of the "Asha" arc, what is the greater significance of the bound people in Vishnu's game with Asha? What is so special about them, that killing them would increase divine affinity?
A comment on webtoons, a blog excerpt, says that Mirha was among the seven paragons who opted out of the game, which should mean that their names are not anything special.
Is there any connection between the Gandharva creating an ocean in N5 and the flooding of Carte in the same year?
If I recall, Gandharva created his ocean while being attacked by Taraka and the flooding originated from the water channel, which Taraka could use to get around (based on my best recollection/understanding which may be faulty).
I believe one of Vishnu's requirements was that they had to have impeccable memory. There was no point in choosing someone who could not remember all of the conditions from the scroll. Their names were not anything special, but it was probably a spell or special magic that would have allowed Asha to gain their powers by killing them.
I don't think that Gandharva's ocean making attempt had anything to do with the flooding of Carte since he was in the Sura realm, unless emotional resonance transcends the realms and the gandharva sura started rampaging.
Some mysteries and my theories
How did Leez learn to understand sura language? Either it has to do with God Kubera's disappearance or Leez is on track to godhood or even surahood (becoming Ananta). It was suggested that Leez will become stronger than Yuta.
Why didn't God Kubera pick up his own items? He's weakening/fading. He can't wander as much, and must stay near Rindhallow to do stuff that Currygom never explained. God Kubera did tell Leez that he's not as free as she thinks he is.
Leez can only hear Yuta talk. I think it stems moreso from Yuta than it does from Leez, since Yuta has some god qualities/powers.
I took it that his refusal to pick up his own items was to the fact that he's reluctant to go on with the plan because of guilt, he also probably knows he is going to fail or that success is not likely. That, or he wants those items to make their way to Leez.
Edited by Tammy, 05 April 2017 - 07:33 AM.
Leez can only hear Yuta talk. I think it stems moreso from Yuta than it does from Leez, since Yuta has some god qualities/powers.
I took it that his refusal to pick up his own items was to the fact that he's reluctant to go on with the plan because of guilt, he also probably knows he is going to fail or that success is not likely. That, or he wants those items to make their way to Leez.
That reason might be more plausible if Yuta had his teal eyes on when talking with Leez. But he was just his normal self when Leez was talking with him.
There is this other mystery that many seem to question is Yuta's ability to sense Leez without his scarf. For that one, I do believe it is due to his godlike abilities, which give him the ability to sense Leez. Notice that he has his teal eyes on every time he senses Leez. And that would make sense because both Agni and God Kubera are able to sense other humans too. Or at least the ones they want to sense.
Guilt of what? Killing Ananta? If so, then God Kubera should be glad to pick up his own items. And like Sagara would have said: finally "cooperating". And I don't think his personality cares too much whether it'll be a failure or success. For him, it's more about morality at this point. I can kind of understand his path. He should repent by reviving Ananta, because that might be the right thing to do. But reviving Ananta might actually be the wrong thing to do in the primeval gods eyes. So what is he supposed to do? But you know, every single action that God Kubera has done is a mystery in itself. And the conversations he has with Sagara and Leez are enigmas as well.
Psst... need to find chapters that contain moments of LeezxYuta and LeezxKubera(Mister)? NO FEAR, click here!
I'm still curious what benefits the Hide of Bondage has for the wearer (besides barrier passage at this point).
I'm re-reading the series and I came across something curious. In ch. 8, when Agni has his first insight about Leez, she says "I had no family to protect from the beginning of this road. Nor did I have the obligation for revenge."
Is that potentially confirmation that her village was never real i.e. she can't take revenge for their deaths because they were never real in the first place? No matter how I look at it, so long as her village was real, she'd have some justification for revenge.
Something else just occurred to me: do we know what attribute requirements there are for humans who use transcendentals? I would guess that it follows their birth attributes but that seems strange since Teo should then only be able to use Chaos transcendentals but that doesn't seem to be the case. I thought it might be the attributes of her sura heritage as a quarter, but then that wouldn't explain why Rao could use transcendentals.
Something else just occurred to me: do we know what attribute requirements there are for humans who use transcendentals? I would guess that it follows their birth attributes but that seems strange since Teo should then only be able to use Chaos transcendentals but that doesn't seem to be the case. I thought it might be the attributes of her sura heritage as a quarter, but then that wouldn't explain why Rao could use transcendentals.
I think it somehow goes with trancendental value as innate quality - like divine affinity but with typically very low values for humans - and is independent or depends weakly on birthday attributes (but maybe attributes can boost the power of trancendentals like it can boost magic). Still not sure about Chaos magic and transcendentals, though.
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