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GodOfAll

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I would appreciate some advise on writing my 1st story.

Do you plan out the ending of the story before you start? Every little detail? Having done so, how do you go about converting it into a style that's appealing to read instead of simple summaries? I'm writing a story, very slow progress but I've finished planning the entire major points of the story :/

As I'm likely to miss out on stuff, here's what I have planned.

- Motive

- Protagonist+Antagonist

- Setting

- What makes the character unique

- Events which will unfold which lead to character development

- Relations to other character that gets introduced.

- Goals

- Conflict/Challenges


Edited by GodOfAll, 08 October 2014 - 01:31 AM.

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Some people I've talked to plan their stories out to every little detail. They keep notebooks with drafts, story events, character info, etc and assemble things together like a puzzle. For others, a basic concept is enough and they can free work it. Reading a lot helps with this because you can better envision how storylines would normally progress and pick up inspiration and/or shake the status quo. Some like to write their stories without knowing the end, which can give a more natural feeling progression to your plot. Others like to write here and there, doing all the major stuff first and then connecting it together.

 

For me, writing anything is pretty much a draft. I'll think of a concept and run with it, see where it goes. I rarely get ideas fully formed, but working one long enough makes me see different directions I could take it, twists that could happen, and how irrelevant things can suddenly tie together big portions of plot.

 

I think most writers will probably go through several versions of their stories, at least for something enormous like a novel. Outlines and summaries help you organize and give you checkpoints, but actually writing it is where you pick up subtle things like whether the style you're using works. Maybe an event you wanted to feel epic comes out sounding hammy and overdone. Time to tweak words or go back to the drawing board.

 

As for style, one thing that I see new writers especially struggle with is pacing. Now, you could have a story that's essentially just a bunch of summarized points put together. But it's dull to read because the pacing is flat like a wikipedia entry. You're just being fed information and there's only so much people can take before their minds turn to mush (especially in the era of hyperstimulating media). Now sure, this format can still work if the information is new and interesting to your audience (for example, rapid fire comedy or 4chan posts that blow your mind) and easily understood. But in general, you want to give parts of your story the attention you think they deserve.

 

For example, if you had something like:

 

"My character is a cool guy. He was walking home. A robber came and shot his legs. My character no longer has legs."

 

In most stories, losing your legs would be a pretty significant event. But this piece just glossed over it in half a sentence that was the same flat structure and tone as the rest of the story. It doesn't stand out, so it doesn't feel very important. Actually, I could've missed that if I was skimming (which a lot of readers do).

 

Look back to stories, films, manga, etc that you've seen. Think about how they pulled your attention to events that needed it, kept you laughing or on the edge of your seat during transition periods. Now, it's not like you need to be anal about it. A lot of people can hit most of this instinctively by just trying to write something that they themselves would like. So probably the best way is to read your story and think, is this how I would like it if someone else wrote it? Would it make sense to do it like this?

 

So I guess it'd really depend on your preferences. For me, I like big, over-the-top stories and characters. But my writing style is kind of muted and can be long-winded. So maybe I'll introduce a character and spend a couple paragraphs just explaining everything about that character. But that's not what I like, it just doesn't work for me. So I'll think about stories where the character intro really stood out for me. I'll probably trash the char's biography in that scene, just give him/her a slick entrance. Maybe with rockets exploding or a princess falling off a cliff or something. Think, who the fuck is this guy? And feed it little by little, so I'll be hanging onto every little word. Then I'll go, not bad, and move on.


Edited by watsu, 10 October 2014 - 12:35 PM.

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The most important aspect is not to think about the "right" way to write, but rather think about "your" way to write. Yes, there are certain things to consider that will help make your story appeal to people, and there are things other people do that might work for you as well, but there is no definitive way to write a novel. You have to use what works for you, and just adapt in any ideas you think you can work with, but don't think because a method works for someone else, it will for you. That being said, I'll talk a little about the techniques I use, and see if there is anything of use to you.

Firstly, I made a google doc for notes. I could carry a notepad and pen, but I always have my phone, and so I can always make notes in my document, and I can actually read what I've written afterwards :) My plan includes an overview of the plot, expanded as I think of more side plots, or come up with more ideas how I can go through something in detail. Then I have character profiles, again updated as I go along, to keep my characters consistent, with things like likes, dislikes, relations and so on. This section also includes a list of any creatures and the rules regarding them, and the rules of the world itself, such as the magic system(s). Then, I have my chapter overviews, which is a more detailed look at the overall plot, but taking it in the order it will be in print, chapter by chapter. I started this with the first couple of chapters planned out in detail, then it gets rougher for a couple more, then the rest is just everything else. As I write the chapters, the details of what happens in following chapters gets fleshed out, and more chapter plans come out from the everything else section. Finally, I have a section for random conversation snippets and plot notes, as well as changes I decide on.

When I come to write a chapter, I look at where my characters finished off, and where they're going to, and how I can further flesh that out. I don't paste anything from the notes though, I just write it from scratch, so that it comes out in the correct style. Once I've written the chapter, or a section of it, I look over it, read out the dialogue, see if there's anything I could make more interesting in the conversation, see if it appears natural etc. I then go back to my notes, and see if I need to push anything back to another chapter, or if I've decided on something that will impact future chapters, and change the plan accordingly. If I make major changes to the plan though, I copy the old chapter plan and stick it at the end of the doc, just in case things don't work out and I decide to revert back.

That's the approach I've been using, and it's got me through 8 chapters so far out of a planned 20, with the ending already decided, but the specifics not quite worked out just yet. As I draw closer to that end though, I'll decide better how events will work to reach it.

I hope some of this is of some use to you.



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As a writer myself, here is my advice: imagine yourself in the body and mind of your character. Using your imagination, take yourself through the events that they will go through, and imagine the dialogue, actions, emotions, even some sort of musical overlay if that helps. Then repeat this process over and over again until you have a well-established idea in your head that you can run through in your mind without forgetting it. Once you have that, start writing. This is the process I am using to write my 20,000-word novel, and it has served me well so far.