Japanese Government to Start Anti-Anime/Manga Piracy Operation Next Month
#1
Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:17 AM
Batoto affected ?
#2
Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:25 AM
#3
Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:07 AM
Anyone mind copying and pasting the article for those of us in countries that crunchyroll has blocked?
#4
Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:24 AM
Anyone mind copying and pasting the article for those of us in countries that crunchyroll has blocked?
Batoto affected ?
i sure hope not, but we will know in the next week i suppose...
My toughts:
They never learn, do they?
They have every right to so, but this isn't the smart way to solve the problem.
While the government has started supporting the genre as one of their important cultural exports
about 20 years too late ._.
On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found.
that's the most they can do atm.
They can't forcebly take down pages that are hosted somewhere else.
In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including
the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.
up-to-date? with good translation?
available in every country and not only the us and japan?
Edited by Alex Shrimpostur, 29 July 2014 - 08:37 AM.
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#5
Posted 29 July 2014 - 12:14 PM
#6
Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:01 PM
The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion).
So I'm hurting the industry by not buying Japanese manga that has no official English translations, or manga that are not available in my country? That's great to know. I sure am eager to buy manga that's not up to date and is localized now.
Edited by RBT, 29 July 2014 - 01:02 PM.
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#7
Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:39 PM
Major bad news for us who's access to the content is blocked because we don't live in the US or Japan, or don't know Japanese.
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#8
Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:58 PM
the japanese government underestimate their enemy then, the internet.
oh, and the power of otaku around the world. lol
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#9
Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:15 PM
The right way to stop "piracy" (or reduce it to unconsecuential levels) is to offer a legal option that is at least as good as the "pirated", a good, affordable and convenient service that everyone can use, until they do this people will continue to get what they want in whatever way is available to them, and this is the internet, good luck trying to stop them (us).
Edited by dissident, 29 July 2014 - 02:16 PM.
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'...if you are not like everybody else, then you are abnormal, if you are abnormal, then you are sick. These three categories, not being like everybody else, not being normal and being sick are in fact very different but have been reduced to the same thing'
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#10
Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:22 PM
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:25 PM
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 11:02 PM
#14
Posted 29 July 2014 - 11:50 PM
The very point is that it must be affordable. I still think about the thousands of Euros I've invested in my Mangacollection so far, and in the several hundreds into anime and another 1000+ Euro into music and several thousands for games.
Imported goods are expensive but localized goods are mostly sold for exorbitant prices ( most manga here cost between 6,50 Euro and 12 Euro per Tankobon, anime like 5-6 Euro per Episode on DVD!!!)
Since most foreign countries don't have such high income as the people in Japan have, it's nearly impossible to buy these things for these prices, especially since those are not hard copies but digital ones(meaning they have no real value except for the copyright on them ...).
And seriously, some 230 series? There are thousands of different anime series out there, so who are they to decide which we may buy and which we may not unless we come to Japan to pay ridiculous prices since their DVD-market is broken...(not to forget our tariff-agencies who crave to rob us off a second time when then product wants to enter our country just because they like to proliferate much )
Edited by Theoderich, 30 July 2014 - 12:04 AM.
#15
Posted 30 July 2014 - 02:52 AM
This is just like the situation with Detective Conan; not only was the localization positively awful, it's many issues behind. The only reason I caught up and then bought official merchandise is because of the fan translations. They don't want my money, I guess. I hope Batoto is in the clear, but I'm going to save my watch list just in case, which makes their list hilarious. I already have 226 on my watch list on here.
#16
Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:01 AM
MAL posted a link to a Power-Point, converted to PDF format. The top web sites were: MangaReader, MangaHere, MangaFox, MangaPanda, SubManga, DM5, MangaStream, Dongmanzhijia, Aimanhua, KissManga, Batoto, and so on.
They specifically list some thirty sites for reading manga, another 65 for viewing anime, 24 file sharing sites and some 33 torrent sites.
The only real question is whether or not the various countries decide to take the Japanese seriously, or allocate any resources at all to cooperating with them. China appears to be the biggest offender (from the Japanese point of view), and given how things have been recently I can hardly imagine them cooperating with the Japanese on anything, let alone intellectual property rights.
Edited by rpapo, 30 July 2014 - 11:14 AM.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:01 PM
#18
Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:46 PM
those are not hard copies but digital ones(meaning they have no real value* except for the copyright on them ...).
*They do have value besides the copyright, what they may not have is cost aside from it, which is not entirely true either since bandwith does cost money.
MAL posted a link to a Power-Point, converted to PDF format. The top web sites were: MangaReader, MangaHere, MangaFox, MangaPanda, SubManga, DM5, MangaStream, Dongmanzhijia, Aimanhua, KissManga, Batoto, and so on.
So sad they don't care about the difference between Batoto and sites like Mangafox and it's ilk. I hope this site survives, if not then only shitty ones will remain or keep popping up after being taken down.
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-Michel Foucault
#19
Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:45 PM
It's a shame but all things must come to end.They have the right to do this,no matter what reason we come up with.
About time anyway.
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#20
Posted 30 July 2014 - 02:32 PM
Getting your series floating around online is a two-sided blade. It can increase your fans. At the same time, your work is lying around there, where you can't control it, for free.
the doujin market is strange place, not unlike fansub and scanning community (I myself have been doing this for about 7+ yrs). It has perks, such as you get access of these people who agrees with your hobby and tastes. At the same time, you acknowledge that you are not above the law, and stuff you're doing will never truly be 100% your work.
does this sound weird to you? Yes, it should be. It does apply to both doujin and scanlation/fansub. The fact that lines you translate is never going to be yours. The fact that characters you use is never going to be yours. (In retrospect, however, the original creator does not own your translation or fan works either, which is a good thing, but)
As a fan who speaks multiple language, accessibility means a lot to me. It's sad, but for me, being inaccessible means you're not going to get that. There have been quiet bit of takedown request for a while, and I'm not going to name any name but they lost a fan because they disallowed hosting in sites such as Booru. (Eastern and Western alike) Of course, they don't have an option yet, to sell their work, system similar to how doujin music artists are breaking into iTunes (dai of Higurashi / Umineko OST is great example), but even if they were available, would that stop someone from trying to get your work for free?
but, also as aspiring writer and creator, I also clearly know the feeling. It feels mutilating, when someone takes your work, unauthorized, and tries to shove in stuff that may or may not be the message you want to send, It's nice making your work known, it's grateful, but if what you wanted to do is truly lost.......
Edited by Cake-kun, 30 July 2014 - 04:11 PM.