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[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

Someone in Manga Reddit sent Naver an e-mail on how to support Webtoon authors and got answer back that Naver is planning to open official service in English.


http://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1xsh68/naver_soon_completely_in_english/



7/1/2014 its out!


mobile site link: http://m.webtoons.com

ToG link: http://m.webtoons.com/episodeList?titleNo=95

Google downloads link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.naver.linewebtoon

Appstore link: n/a

Edited by Random-Webtoon-Fan, 02 July 2014 - 08:59 AM.

[Dr.Cheese]

I am not too optimistic of the translator team. But happy nonetheless.

[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

I am not too optimistic of the translator team. But happy nonetheless.

Even in the worst case senario which the translations are horrible, at least foreign fans get chance to support authors!

[Euklyd]

Haven't they had English translations for a while?

http://comic.naver.com/en/index.html

 

How is this different? Is it a question of how much is translated, or the frequency of translation or something?

[svines85]

Mmmmm.......it'll be interesting to see what actually happens. We'll see.  

[Will of NGE]

Wonderful news.

But I have two worries and they are connected.

 

What if their translations end up as bad as we've seen then in what was released in english and if they fuck up the names...

and what does this mean for TheCompany?

[Apan]

Naver would be smart to hire translators such as The Company, who have already proved themselves. Why search for another translators when there are many who have done this kind of work before and would be willing to cooperate with them.

[wuhugm]

Damn... I wanted it to stay a niche...

[svines85]

Naver would be smart to hire translators such as The Company, who have already proved themselves. Why search for another translators when there are many who have done this kind of work before and would be willing to cooperate with them.

That might be a pretty big assumption on your part, you know. Doing something as a hobby is one thing, entering into a contractual, business type relationship might be another thing entirely...........from both points of view.  

[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

Haven't they had English translations for a while?
http://comic.naver.com/en/index.html
 
How is this different? Is it a question of how much is translated, or the frequency of translation or something?

 
That is promotional site, and this is (apparetaly) full traslation.
 

are you really sure this site will be have easy access and that it will feature at least most of their webtoons that are official and not best challange?(maybe even bestchallange O_O)
 
will all chapters be translated or some?
 
will we be supporting the authors by subscribing to them, rating their chapters and buying the books from the online site like korean fans do?
 
i demand mor information as politely as i can

 
 
This would be fully translationed fro m start to ending, but other then that it is quite unrevealed info. They even have not announced it officialy yet!

Wonderful news.
But I have two worries and they are connected.
 
What if their translations end up as bad as we've seen then in what was released in english and if they fuck up the names...
and what does this mean for TheCompany?

 

For the last time. ANDROTHY ACTUALLLY SOUNDS CLOSER TO HER ACTUAL NAME!!!
 

Naver would be smart to hire translators such as The Company, who have already proved themselves. Why search for another translators when there are many who have done this kind of work before and would be willing to cooperate with them.

I KNOW some companies work like this way, but I think Naver would not because of copyright problems and such. (It would look like they are encouraging illegal scan teams and such.)

[Dr.Cheese]

We are supposed to be relieved SIU will get more fans and support. But it can have the opposite effect. Bad translations can be off-putting. As well as when they try to incorporate cultural jokes into Westernized customs. It would not do the story justice. That's just how I feel when I see badly translated manga in bookstores sometimes.

[iconxraiza]

Will it be simultaneous? The Japanese translation sometimes delayed.
It would be nice to if we can support the author directly. But to be honest, my first tho is hopefully I do not need to use IE for a better view lol
 

For the last time. ANDROTHY ACTUALLLY SOUNDS CLOSER TO HER ACTUAL NAME!!!
 

I KNOW some companies work like this way, but I think Naver would not because of copyright problems and such. (It would look like they are encouraging illegal scan teams and such.)

 

Androthy just awkward for now. Too late haha. I always read it as Androssi even raws.

 

True. I don't see how Naver would see the company in a positive view to be honest. Scanlation is in such a grey area.

Edited by iconxraiza, 14 February 2014 - 02:33 AM.

[gus]

great new's !

Edited by gus, 14 February 2014 - 01:31 AM.

[Hoet]

i don't like their translations though :/ They use juvenile and uninteresting language that ends up destroying the thrill. Not to mention there were quite a few grammatical errors in the previewed comics, simple ones that show a lack of proof-reading.

[gus]

i don't like their translations though :/ They use juvenile and uninteresting language that ends up destroying the thrill. Not to mention there were quite a few grammatical errors in the previewed comics, simple ones that show a lack of proof-reading.

 

  i doubt they well make mistakes when their official translation comes out

 

i think that was just a promotion  just to get the name out

[Skyrius]

i don't like their translations though :/ They use juvenile and uninteresting language that ends up destroying the thrill. Not to mention there were quite a few grammatical errors in the previewed comics, simple ones that show a lack of proof-reading.

You know, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that the promotional material isn't necessarily an indication of the level of a continuous, weekly, (possible eventually people buying books and actually spending money) publication.

 

Which I can believe because I've had similar experiences with Japanese-English merchandise. The promotional material that gets translated just tends to be done in more of a hurry and is meant to gauge whether or not a more refined product will be worth it. And then if it is, there's usually better quality control.

 

At the very least give them a chance to release a chapter before we start panicking. (and I will be panicking right alongside you if I'm wrong, don't worry)

[White People]

This is good news if it's actually true. Might be able to actually recommend this to people if it gets an official translation.

[Lester]

Anything that gets wider recognition for Naver and SIU is a good thing. The promo chapters do leave me a bit leery of what the quality might be, but we'll just have to take a wait and see approach and hope a proper, refined product will be handled with more care. As for character name issues, not a huge problem from where I sit. I'm not a big fan of 'Andorthy' either, but I can do mental substitutions. Already do so now when seeing Mad Dog's name in the Mangacow scan as 'Bhargav' rather than tC's 'Varagarv'. Doesn't cause me any issues.

[gus]

i have a question tho could we be able to comment on Naver and rate the webtoon ?

[Will of NGE]

RWF, we really don't give a flying duck what is closer to the real name.

It's about consistency, flow and appeal. The-name-which-shall-not-be-said is quite off-putting. And Androssi isn't the only one threatened by this, several other major characters could suffer this cruel fate as well.

This is a serious problem.

If you localised John Rambo, it would be Ivan/Jovan/Jani (croatian/serbian/hungarian respectively) for this region. And honestly, it's ridiculous. You go to a theater and watch Rambo be his usual badass, and then you hear, "Ivane, watch out!"

Honvetly, I would laugh my ass off and the movie would turn into a comedy. The thing is, we're used to common names and with them you lose a big part of the exotic that they come with.

 

If Androssi was an old hag, Androthy would be a good sounding name. But she looks like a teenager, she's definetly young and in the center of attention. It would a huge disservice to her and the Tower of God.

 

NAVER doesn't seem to have much experience with translations for a market that's so much different than theirs. That's why if they're smart they'll look toward the fantranslating groups who actually have years and years of experience localizing content for fans.

It doesn't matter if they officialy acknowledge the fangroup and what it did, as long as they do the right thing for the franchises and the fans. And fuc*ing up the names can hurt them and their releases.

I for am hoping they turn to the community for localization, even covertly.