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I saw the movie over the weekend.  In my opinion, there were only a couple of things that were the same as the novel:

 

1. Aliens are invading the earth, and winning.

2. Aliens have some sort of time travel power.

3. Main character gains access to the power after killing special alien.

4. Rita used to have access to the power.

 

Everything else was completely different.  That said, I really enjoyed the movie.



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4. Rita used to have access to the power.

In the LN Rita had access to the power throughout the story, even while the story centered on the main character.

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But anyway people who have told me to "Take my head out of my ass", need to do the same to themselves. You can't understand, that people have different expectations and standards. I know people who hated Harry potter's 3rd movie cause of slight character mis-matches and cuts from the book (I hate 4th-7th movie, cause it was just shit.). This was way bigger then what my friend got bothered by. 
Like fg said, it only had ties to the original story. And that's not alright with me. Get over it. People already agree that it has changes in the story, and for me I see a lot of loopholes in terms of what aspects they changed for no good reason. If you can't face that there's people who get pissed off by silly changes then it's a problem from your side.


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well

movie >>> manga for sure

lately i'm not big fan of usual anime stuff with lame characters and shitty dialogs

havent read the novel but dont think it's even worth it



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Imo, movie was pretty damn good. Of course, there will be those who will just dismiss it because they'll dismiss any adaption that deviates from the sm. However, if you're a fan of the series, whether the manga or light novel, and have the chance, you should definitely try it out.



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Hell no this movie was absolute shit it was as deep as a kitty pool. The first problem with this movie was the stupidity of every single character except for Rita. Why in gods name does no one take stock in anything that the man who can predict the future say especially that general since this is not the first time he has heard about time travel stuff. Second problem why was Rita described as such a badass but every time she is on screen she sucks. Third problem even though this movie goes through all the work of telling and showing us how smart these aliens are they still did not have the intelligence to keep more than one gaurd when it has no means of defending itself other wise. Fourth problem which relates to the second problem everyone besides Tom cruise is useless. Fifth problem the inconsistency of how easily Tom cruise dies. Sixth problem that ending why in gods name does Tom cruise become God. Were the directors really that scared to have an ending where the crew sacrifices themselves to save humanity. That ending pretty much flips you the middle finger because the whole movie pretty much never happened, Tom never met Rita, Tom never met his squad, Tom never talked with the genral, and Tom never fought the aliens, and Rita never had to fight in Verdun which now makes me ponder did Hendrick even die? I honestly have no damn clue why anyone thinks that this movie was good, it was fun to watch but that is all. Oh on a side note I also hated how the fact that even though Tom had been fighting mimics all that time which should have boosted his reaction ablity he still couldn't handle those mechanized claws that moved way slower and far less sponanteous than mimics. Oh and speaking of the general what was the point in that character he was given two chances to save humanity when all else would seem lost. Anyone in his situation would cooperate and grasp at any straw if it means winning, but nope not this fucker he would rather lock up technology that might save the day, and try to lock up and kill humanities only hope. This movie was good like Naruto, Bleach, or any other main stream action shounen manga, Aka they suck but because the action is cool to watch you forgive the massive amounts of bull shit and say that the series is good

 

 

The only praises I can sing about this movie was first seeing Tom learn each pattern and how to react but that is the norm for time loop movies, second the scene where he feels utterly helpless and learns that he cannot save everyone but unfortunately the ending of this movie proves otherwise which throws out one of the key themes of time loop movie, and finally watching him grow as a character from selfish coward to selfless hero.



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Hell no this movie was absolute shit it was as deep as a kitty pool. The first problem with this movie was the stupidity of every single character except for Rita. Why in gods name does no one take stock in anything that the man who can predict the future say especially that general since this is not the first time he has heard about time travel stuff. Second problem why was Rita described as such a badass but every time she is on screen she sucks. Third problem even though this movie goes through all the work of telling and showing us how smart these aliens are they still did not have the intelligence to keep more than one gard when it has no means of defending itself other wise. Fourth problem which relates to the second problem everyone besides Tom cruise is useless. Fifth problem the inconsistency of how easily Tom cruise dies. Sixth problem that ending why in gods name does Tom cruise become God. Were the directors really that scared to have an ending where the crew sacrifices themselves to save humanity. That ending pretty much flips you the middle finger because the whole movie pretty much never happened, Tom never met Rita, Tom never met his squad, Tom never talked with the genral, and Tom never fought the aliens, and Rita never had to fight in Verdun which now makes me ponder did Hendrick even die? I honestly have no damn clue why anyone thinks that this movie was good, it was fun to watch but that is all. Oh on a side note I also hated how the fact that even though Tom had been fighting mimics all that time which should have boosted his reaction ablity he still couldn't handle those mechanized claws that moved way slower and far less sponanteous than mimics. Oh and speaking of the general what was the point in that character he was given two chances to save humanity when all else would seem lost. Anyone in his situation would cooperate and grasp at any straw if it means winning, but nope not this fucker he would rather lock up technology that might save the day, and try to lock up and kill humanities only hope. This movie was good like Naruto, Bleach, or any other main stream action shounen manga, Aka they suck but because the action is cool to watch you forgive the massive amounts of bull shit and say that the series is good

 

 

The only praises I can sing about this movie was first seeing Tom learn each pattern and how to react but that is the norm for time loop movies, second the scene where he feels utterly helpless and learns that he cannot save everyone but unfortunately the ending of this movie proves otherwise which throws out one of the key themes of time loop movie, and finally watching him grow as a character from selfish coward to selfless hero.

 

*Sigh* Classic case of a person who can't get past the novel to realize that all these questions are answered when you just try to think about the movie instead of asking the movie itself to solve every one of your questions straight up.  SO Let me pick a random part out and show how you need to think.

 

" Oh and speaking of the general what was the point in that character he was given two chances to save humanity when all else would seem lost. Anyone in his situation would cooperate and grasp at any straw if it means winning, but nope not this fucker he would rather lock up technology that might save the day, and try to lock up and kill humanities only hope."

 

Okay, well let's say this general isn't a naive idiot, which, from the beginning you can see he isn't. As the movie CLEARLY states there was no point in Rita telling anyone about her powers because every time she did no one believed her except the one physicist. Or if they did they dissected her, not a great ending for her imo. Which means that the final loop involves her never telling anyone anything. MEANING that the General heard about some RANDOM scientist RANTING about TIME TRAVEL and spending RESOURCES to build a DEVICE. Now, AS a general he probably thought it was some scientist spending money on a fantasy, which, is pretty much what they do. So yes, he locked up the device because he had no REAL idea what it was and only had 1 guy who sounds crazy as fuck with NO PROOF about the claims that were being made.

 

OH, wait sir, you claim he should have just SAVED HUMANITY LIKE THAT? Cause that general OBVIOUSLY got to being a general by making very very quick decisions based on absolutely 0 proof whatsoever. The whole reason for that scene was for Tom Cruise to LITERALLY shoot down every chance at the general TRYING to think in that situation. Anytime he did Tom would just back it up with time travelling proof (as in telling the future and it coming true). But he still isn't being a complete idiot because he calls security after them after, meaning what he was ACTUALLY doing was making sure Rita didn't fucking blow his head off.

 

And what? You think he should have just straight up believed a guy who, just the last 24 hours was trying to fucking blackmail him?...Did you even watch the movie and think about the rational of what was happening?

 

I won't even bother with explaining the other points because some of use actually used our brain to think about the plot instead of wanting it to be given to us on a silver platter.

 

 

 

In the LN Rita had access to the power throughout the story, even while the story centered on the main character.

Spoiler

 

But anyway people who have told me to "Take my head out of my ass", need to do the same to themselves. You can't understand, that people have different expectations and standards. I know people who hated Harry potter's 3rd movie cause of slight character mis-matches and cuts from the book (I hate 4th-7th movie, cause it was just shit.). This was way bigger then what my friend got bothered by. 
Like fg said, it only had ties to the original story. And that's not alright with me. Get over it. People already agree that it has changes in the story, and for me I see a lot of loopholes in terms of what aspects they changed for no good reason. If you can't face that there's people who get pissed off by silly changes then it's a problem from your side.

 
 
As for you sir, I understand your point. As a person myself who does prefer when things take from the source 100% I was disappointed at what they did. But also relieved at the fact that, it could have been really bad but wasn't. So all in all the movie didn't turn out to be a flop and the person who wrote the story got money for it and I had an enjoyable 2 hours despite it not being the same. Good for me, and if you don't want to look past it and try to enjoy the movie for what it is, a movie, than oh well, that's your decision. But all in all it covered a lot more wholes than the manga in my opinion, never touched the novel so no clue how it ties up ends.

Edited by TheUnknownMercenary, 10 June 2014 - 09:30 AM.

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I didn't watch it, yet.

It is supposed to be good.

 

But guys lets be honest.

 

From the very beginning when I started to read this manga/ln and I heard about the hollywood movie, what I expected was:

 

SOME FUCKING HOLYWOOD PHONY WILL TAKE THE STORY AND REWRITE IT TO A FREAKING SHITTY ASS GENERIC HOLLYWOOD STORY

 

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Hell no this movie was absolute shit it was as deep as a kitty pool. The first problem with this movie was the stupidity of every single character except for Rita. Why in gods name does no one take stock in anything that the man who can predict the future say especially that general since this is not the first time he has heard about time travel stuff. Second problem why was Rita described as such a badass but every time she is on screen she sucks. Third problem even though this movie goes through all the work of telling and showing us how smart these aliens are they still did not have the intelligence to keep more than one gaurd when it has no means of defending itself other wise. Fourth problem which relates to the second problem everyone besides Tom cruise is useless. Fifth problem the inconsistency of how easily Tom cruise dies. Sixth problem that ending why in gods name does Tom cruise become God. Were the directors really that scared to have an ending where the crew sacrifices themselves to save humanity. That ending pretty much flips you the middle finger because the whole movie pretty much never happened, Tom never met Rita, Tom never met his squad, Tom never talked with the genral, and Tom never fought the aliens, and Rita never had to fight in Verdun which now makes me ponder did Hendrick even die? I honestly have no damn clue why anyone thinks that this movie was good, it was fun to watch but that is all. Oh on a side note I also hated how the fact that even though Tom had been fighting mimics all that time which should have boosted his reaction ablity he still couldn't handle those mechanized claws that moved way slower and far less sponanteous than mimics. Oh and speaking of the general what was the point in that character he was given two chances to save humanity when all else would seem lost. Anyone in his situation would cooperate and grasp at any straw if it means winning, but nope not this fucker he would rather lock up technology that might save the day, and try to lock up and kill humanities only hope. This movie was good like Naruto, Bleach, or any other main stream action shounen manga, Aka they suck but because the action is cool to watch you forgive the massive amounts of bull shit and say that the series is good

 

 

The only praises I can sing about this movie was first seeing Tom learn each pattern and how to react but that is the norm for time loop movies, second the scene where he feels utterly helpless and learns that he cannot save everyone but unfortunately the ending of this movie proves otherwise which throws out one of the key themes of time loop movie, and finally watching him grow as a character from selfish coward to selfless hero.

Apparantly we didn't watch the same movie...

 

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Sorry if I inadvertently feed trolls...

The movie was good enough for ME to pick up the DVD when it comes out.

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Apparantly we didn't watch the same movie...

 

Spoiler

 

Sorry if I inadvertently feed trolls...

The movie was good enough for ME to pick up the DVD when it comes out.

-fact

 

Cool, thanks, I didn't need to slap the guy down myself. And good on all accounts. Seems this man actually WATCHED the movie.

 

And this was good enough I will most likely download in 1080p and store on my EHD, and also buy the blu-ray in support. GG


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The thing that made the movie surpass the source material: Tom Cruise Dying in hillarious, inventive ways, over, and over, and over again.  Other than that, the LN and Manga was superior.  But seeing Lord Xenu bite it repeatedly never gets old.



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The reason why i liked the movie better was mainly because it focused also on

 

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This was just one portion that i personally just felt the movie handled it better.

 

Now in saying that i felt there was things that was BS and the manga/novel did it better. Explanation on mimics for one, and more of a Rita killing things. I understand how she get's killed but they should have had her killing a bit more of them than she did... among other things :P

 

Overall I can't wait for the blu-ray so i can watch the shit outa this (i will buy it but blu-ray means downloads are out yay)


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The thing that made the movie surpass the source material: Tom Cruise Dying in hillarious, inventive ways, over, and over, and over again.  Other than that, the LN and Manga was superior.  But seeing Lord Xenu bite it repeatedly never gets old.

 

I agree. That was excellent done and hilarious to watch all his "attempts" :D

 

Also, the only reason why I told geenius3ab to take his head of his ass is because he was heavily criticizing a movie BASED ON THE TRAILER. And then to go full retard, came up with his own opinion BASED ON REVIEWS.

 

ie. he hasn't seen the movie.

 

ie. he's an asshole.


Edited by TheThing, 11 June 2014 - 03:16 PM.


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ie. he's an asshole.

Look in the mirror. You've been nothing more then a ignorant wall. You've been a brick wall of bs.

I explained myself in my previous message, that there are people who don't like adaptions that aren't faithful to the source material. You can't see past your nose, and you'll most likely never see what others say other than what you want to. Saying "You haven't seen the movie" doesn't mean I'm completely wrong with everything I say because I have read reviews and I do know facts of what happens in the movie, and from there it's easy to see if it really is the same as the LN. If I do like the movie it isn't because it's made after "All you need is kill". The fact is that it isn't a 100% faithful adaptation, so  take your head out of your ass. I hate wasting my time with someone like you, and I'll see if there's a way to block your further posts from appearing. 

 

Edit: Forgot to add the fact that reading multiple reviews gives an OBJECTIVE view, while reading just 1 review is subjective. 


Edited by geenius3ab, 24 June 2014 - 08:59 PM.


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I just saw the movie and it was AMAZING.  Great action, sci-fi, SGI, humor, and a little bit of romance.  Plenty of adrenaline rush.  Granted, I haven't read the light novel or manga it had its inspiration from yet--I'd likely be more critical if I did-- but I figure now that in general if I separate the two a bit in my mind it doesn't bother me as much if the two aren't quite the same.  As long as they don't completely waste the source material and create something completely lacking in imagination or finesse, I'm for it.

 

It's worse if they take the storyline, keep it the same but don't execute it properly and do a halfway job on it.  *coughlastairbendercough*.  From what I've read about the original, Hollywood probably wouldn't be able to do what it did as well as it did if they tried to copy something they weren't good at doing, namely, Japanese manga in all its unique style and subtle emotion.  Hollywood and Tom Cruise have their own strengths and flair and stuck to it while executing something great in its own right.  I give it credit for not pretending to be the same thing--it even changed the name .

 

Now time to check out the manga.