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[Regis]

So... holy wars, fan's moans, serious discussions are welcomed. NO SPOILERS, PLEASE!

[black_cat1]

You gave me a hard task. Discussing about this manwha without spoiler is nearly impossible

[Parakewl]

Question, do you mean discussion w/o spoilers (which seems fairly difficult) or discussion of only translated chapters, meaning no mentioning of what happens in the still raw arcs?

[Regis]

Question, do you mean discussion w/o spoilers (which seems fairly difficult) or discussion of only translated chapters, meaning no mentioning of what happens in the still raw arcs?

Second. This topic is for people who don't read the RAWs and don't want to know what is to be happening)))

[Parakewl]

Does anyone else want the author to draw the Annie versus Type-Zero Lucifer battle? Also, I'm wondering if he'll (she'll?) ever show back up. Curious as to what a Type-Zero does when their queen dies since they seem to have a conscious unlike regular monsters.

[black_cat1]

Does anyone else want the author to draw the Annie versus Type-Zero Lucifer battle? Also, I'm wondering if he'll (she'll?) ever show back up. Curious as to what a Type-Zero does when their queen dies since they seem to have a conscious unlike regular monsters.

Normally, it's rare to see a Type-Zero still be alive while the Queen died. Because Type-Zero is specially created to protect the Queen, hence normally the Knight must defeat Type-Zero first be4 they can kill the Queen.

 

Fear is the solely case of a Type-Zero who still be alive after her Queen was killed.

[Hynaio]

Pray was a special case, she created beasts that were able to think on their own, which didn't rely that much on orders (but still when orders came from higher up, they need to obey). You could notice this when Blue Beetle went after Anne even though Pray said not to (this is the most extreme case in because it even denies the Queens order). Also the fact that it had a killing intent and really wanted to kill Anne, might be a sign of not only consciousness, but maybe also personality or it might just be instinct ("my mother is in danger and so I protect her").

 

White Fear is created in the image of Fion/Anne and same as Blue Beetle, she is a special type zero. So it wouldn't be weird that she has a consciousness and doesn't act like the others. But she still is the same as a beast. She listens to Pray's orders and wishes and she had the instinct to protect the queen (the moment Pray was in immediate danger, she came to her). You could even say she saved Pray, because there is no proof Pray is dead. Ofcourse, she is deadly wounded, but there is no confirmation that she is certainly dead (as of yet). 

 

With Fear flying away with Pray, where are they now? Nothing is said about that. They could still be alive, hiding somewhere. There is also no mention of lifespans for beasts/queens or their regenerative capacities. So how long could they live, could they come back someday, is it possible to join forces or take over from another queen (on Belchis the queens worked together), would it be possible for one queen to take control over other beasts if their queen is dead?

 

There are certainly questions left unanswered. These might be plotholes, or maybe the author has plans for it. I can imagine some people right now might think abou this post: "I don't care, TL;DR or go away with your stupid talk." But the fanboy inside me screams: "I want to know more! and I want all the information that there is." and discussion is good for this in my opinion. This was my rant, and thank you for reading.

 

PS: Am I the only one that thinks that Milo's reaction on the birth of Anne is weird? Pray suddenly has a baby and Milo is like: nothing weird going on here.

[tomtomr92]

Pray was a special case, she created beasts that were able to think on their own, which didn't rely that much on orders (but still when orders came from higher up, they need to obey). You could notice this when Blue Beetle went after Anne even though Pray said not to (this is the most extreme case in because it even denies the Queens order). Also the fact that it had a killing intent and really wanted to kill Anne, might be a sign of not only consciousness, but maybe also personality or it might just be instinct ("my mother is in danger and so I protect her").

 

White Fear is created in the image of Fion/Anne and same as Blue Beetle, she is a special type zero. So it wouldn't be weird that she has a consciousness and doesn't act like the others. But she still is the same as a beast. She listens to Pray's orders and wishes and she had the instinct to protect the queen (the moment Pray was in immediate danger, she came to her). You could even say she saved Pray, because there is no proof Pray is dead. Ofcourse, she is deadly wounded, but there is no confirmation that she is certainly dead (as of yet). 

 

With Fear flying away with Pray, where are they now? Nothing is said about that. They could still be alive, hiding somewhere. There is also no mention of lifespans for beasts/queens or their regenerative capacities. So how long could they live, could they come back someday, is it possible to join forces or take over from another queen (on Belchis the queens worked together), would it be possible for one queen to take control over other beasts if their queen is dead?

 

There are certainly questions left unanswered. These might be plotholes, or maybe the author has plans for it. I can imagine some people right now might think abou this post: "I don't care, TL;DR or go away with your stupid talk." But the fanboy inside me screams: "I want to know more! and I want all the information that there is." and discussion is good for this in my opinion. This was my rant, and thank you for reading.

 

PS: Am I the only one that thinks that Milo's reaction on the birth of Anne is weird? Pray suddenly has a baby and Milo is like: nothing weird going on here.

Lol fan Boy but yeah i wish this was more popular 2 :/ im the guy who looks at the raw every week to see the new ch even tho i cant read it Lol but i think Milo already knew what was going on but decided to keep it a secret and hope that she could change with friendship. 

[zeromin0]

Normally, it's rare to see a Type-Zero still be alive while the Queen died. Because Type-Zero is specially created to protect the Queen, hence normally the Knight must defeat Type-Zero first be4 they can kill the Queen.

 

Fear is the solely case of a Type-Zero who still be alive after her Queen was killed.

- last chapter of pray is not clear
How war after pray defeated
pray defeated but scene not 100% real die
and to where pray taken
- Omg last chapter blur - maybe pray chapter will continue someday

[Mollibus]

Pray was a special case, she created beasts that were able to think on their own, which didn't rely that much on orders (but still when orders came from higher up, they need to obey). You could notice this when Blue Beetle went after Anne even though Pray said not to (this is the most extreme case in because it even denies the Queens order). Also the fact that it had a killing intent and really wanted to kill Anne, might be a sign of not only consciousness, but maybe also personality or it might just be instinct ("my mother is in danger and so I protect her").

What if.. Blue Beetle was jealous? That Anne was Prays "Most Beloved"... so he tried to kill her. ...

 

 

PS: Am I the only one that thinks that Milo's reaction on the birth of Anne is weird? Pray suddenly has a baby and Milo is like: nothing weird going on here.

I believe that Milo always thought that something was off with Pray, or he slowly came to the realization that she wasn't human. But he knew that she had a human heart (and he is a Christian...), so he gave her a chance to redeem herself and live a precious life. Therefore, since he "knew", it wasn't the end of the world, and he tried to make the best of the situation... kinda?

 

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I think that "Fear" was created as/is a symbol of Pray's "Fear of losing Anne". Therefore the name "Fear" and the looks of Anne...

[tomtomr92]

- last chapter of pray is not clear
How war after pray defeated
pray defeated but scene not 100% real die
and to where pray taken
- Omg last chapter blur - maybe pray chapter will continue someday

Theres still 1 more ch for this season imo and it MIGHT answer your question, but idk since i cant read it lol

[Regis]

Hm... looking on Fiona's grave in 75-th... Fiona Leonhard... she can't be the member of Leonhard clan, because if it was true -- she didn't become the orphan on the destroyed planet -- the family would take her... and the dialogue between Milo and Dry in 36-th:

"Do you remember... Fiona?

Fiona?

May be you were too young to remember..."

Also in 8-th... brother's dialogue: "the Dad... no, the father will be here soon"... and no another Leonhard had come to Baltia... but Milo came soon.

Does that means that the true Leonhard clan member is Milo and the Dry and Daniel his adopted sons? And Milo buried Fiona as his daughter...

Edited by Regis, 15 March 2014 - 07:57 PM.

[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

Hm... looking on Fiona's grave in 75-th... Fiona Leonhard... she can't be the member of Leonhard clan, because if it was true -- she didn't become the orphan on the destroyed planet -- the family would take her... and the dialogue between Milo and Dry in 36-th:

"Do you remember... Fiona?

Fiona?

May be you were too young to remember..."

Also in 8-th... brother's dialogue: "the Dad... no, the father will be here soon"... and no another Leonhard had come to Baltia... but Milo came soon.

Does that means that the true Leonhard clan member is Milo and the Dry and Daniel his adopted sons? And Milo buried Fiona as his daughter...

 

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