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[iphiel]

Hello

i noticed a strange thing happened about this tecnique

in the chapther 14 han jee-han tried to learn it but chosed to dont, for the detrimental effect

but in the 17 chapter pag 8 and pag 9 seems that han jee-han learned it...

did i missread?

it was a translation mistake?

or a sung sang-young one?

[TychoGreen]

You're wrong, it was an other technique that he couldn't learn. He could learn the breathing technique anyway because it was the yunhomoon technique that would have a detrimental effect with a chunbomoon ki-based technique. Can't explain it better, my english isn't that good ..

[iphiel]

in the 14 he learned

chunbu spirit technique

chunbu foot technique

chunbu sword technique

chunbu martial's arts technique

chunbu outer ki technique

 

 

he didnt learn

self enhancemet bearhing tecnque (becouse it gave a detrimental effect with spirti tecnique)

and chunbu divine technique (not enough INT)

 

but... probably the "self enhancemet breathing tecnque" is not the "our breathing tecnique" of the 17 chapther

[Culaio29]

I think its implied that chunbu spirit technique and self enhancement breathing technique have similar role(controlling flow of KI) thats why the are incompatible, breathing is VERY important in manipulating KI (since KI/QI means BREATH), pic of chunbu spirit technique in skill menu also is showing person breathing.

 

By the way in chapter 11 third technique that controls KI was mentioned: "YunHon Spirit technique"  which users of "YunHon Soul Recovery"  NEEDS to have to use it(Main characters gamer ability bypassed this condition).

[MagicWafflez]

I think its implied that chunbu spirit technique and self enhancement breathing technique have similar role(controlling flow of KI) thats why the are incompatible, breathing is VERY important in manipulating KI (since KI/QI means BREATH), pic of chunbu spirit technique in skill menu also is showing person breathing.

 

By the way in chapter 11 third technique that controls KI was mentioned: "YunHon Spirit technique"  which users of "YunHon Soul Recovery"  NEEDS to have to use it(Main characters gamer ability bypassed this condition).

oh, so ki IS breath~♪

shiney I didn't know that... my korean is non-existant ;

 

so since he had already learned a YunHon move and Chunbu moves, he couldn't learn that "Self-Enhancement Breathing Technique," hm? since it's not one of those...

 

I wonder if red-haired chick will give up her skill books >=D

Though he seems to be having fun playing with his mana already

[iphiel]

thank you culaio XD

[HailTheGamer]

I think its implied that chunbu spirit technique and self enhancement breathing technique have similar role(controlling flow of KI) thats why the are incompatible, breathing is VERY important in manipulating KI (since KI/QI means BREATH), pic of chunbu spirit technique in skill menu also is showing person breathing.

 

By the way in chapter 11 third technique that controls KI was mentioned: "YunHon Spirit technique"  which users of "YunHon Soul Recovery"  NEEDS to have to use it(Main characters gamer ability bypassed this condition).

I hope that he will get closer with red-head and her YunHon faction since his learning of soul recovery gimped his potential with chunbu in the long run.

Edited by HailGamer, 08 February 2014 - 07:20 PM.

[Culaio29]

oh, so ki IS breath~♪

shiney I didn't know that... my korean is non-existant ;

 

so since he had already learned a YunHon move and Chunbu moves, he couldn't learn that "Self-Enhancement Breathing Technique," hm? since it's not one of those...

 

I wonder if red-haired chick will give up her skill books >=D

Though he seems to be having fun playing with his mana already

 

"Ki", "Chi" and "Qi" are different names for SAME energy, different  countries use different words: China uses "Qi" and "Chi" while Japan and Korea "Ki", I also don't know Korean so I just looked for info about "Ki"/"ChI"/"Qi" on the internet, info from wikipedia:

"Qi is frequently translated as "natural energy", "life force", or "energy flow". Qi is the central underlying principle in traditional Chinese medicine and martial arts. The literal translation of "qi" is "breath", "air", or "gas"."

"Concepts similar to qi can be found in many cultures, for example, prana and cit in Hindu religion, mana in Hawaiian culture, lüng in Tibetan Buddhism, ruah in Hebrew culture, and Vital energy in Western philosophy. Some elements of qi can be understood in the term energy when used by writers and practitioners of various esoteric forms of spirituality and alternative medicine. Elements of the qi concept can also be found in Western popular culture, for example "The Force" in Star Wars. Notions in the West of energeia, élan vital, or "vitalism" are purported to be similar."

Edited by Culaio29, 09 February 2014 - 08:09 AM.

[Inuzuka]

I hope that he will get closer with red-head and her YunHon faction since his learning of soul recovery gimped his potential with chunbu in the long run.

How so?

[HailTheGamer]

How so?

 

It's a speculation, since he can only learn one inner Ki tech without deteriorating effect. Hence, if Chunbu and YunHon factions have different inner Ki tech as their core, then it would make sense that there are some skills that depend on the type of inner Ki tech used and he wont be able to learn them all without negative consequences from crosing different flows.

[Scaevola6074]

As stated in the chapter 13, he was able to perform the YunHon Soul Recovery without actually knowing the YunHon breathing technique, thus he hasn't learned the YunHon breathing technique and has no detrimental effects.

 

This has the ramification that he can perform techniques entirely through mana, meaning he can potentially learn/perform techniques without needing to learn the associated breathing technique. This is supported by the descriptions of the Chunbu techniques, as most stated what he could do ("base") AND had further benefits if he had learned the Chunbu Spirit Technique ("additional"). Cases probably do exist where the associated breathing technique needs to be learned or the "base" effects of the technique are nothing, though if this is rare then Han Jee-Han could learn an enormous amount of techniques even though he's only learned the Chunbu Spirit Technique.

Edited by Scaevola6074, 09 February 2014 - 09:16 AM.

[HailTheGamer]

As stated in the chapter 13, he was able to perform the YunHon Soul Recovery without actually knowing the YunHon breathing technique, thus he hasn't learned the YunHon breathing technique and has no detrimental effects.

 

This has the ramification that he can perform techniques entirely through mana, meaning he can potentially learn/perform techniques without needing to learn the associated breathing technique. This is supported by the descriptions of the Chunbu techniques, as most stated what he could do ("base") AND had further benefits if he had learned the Chunbu Spirit Technique ("additional"). Cases probably do exist where the associated breathing technique needs to be learned or the "base" effects of the technique are nothing, though if this is rare then Han Jee-Han could learn an enormous amount of techniques even though he's only learned the Chunbu Spirit Technique.

 

I'm really curious how it works, would be really nice to get some extra information.

[Culaio29]

I also thing that we should remember that warning said that negative side effects MAY appear if he learns second inner ki technique and NOT that they will for sure.