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[zorn96]

so it said in the story that Ran had the highest scores they had seen in a combat simulation and was only restricted by the limit on the number of points he could get

 

it was also shown in a flashback that Ran was told he was reckless during the test, and that what he did was dangerous. he responded with a statement that it's his life force. the only magic I can think of that uses one's life force is the summoning of a god.

 

so, do you all think he summoned one? or did he try and fail? try and succeed, but then dismiss the god? other ideas?

[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

This actually sounds like good theory.


But there are couple of prob.


God summon needs strong despration/will, which does not seem like what Ran would have in test.


What kind of God would come to help a test then leave?!?!

[Jaymes]

What kind of God would come to help a test then leave?!?!

Babo kim?

[Mizura]

Interesting. We've always all assumed that he used a transcendental. If he summoned a God, it'd have to be Varuna.

Edited by Mizura, 03 February 2014 - 08:38 AM.

[themantarays]

I've always had the following presumptions about Ran, some more likely than others: He inherited a transcendental from Hanuman which can take out a Nastika (he contemplated using "it" against Taraka, and seemed to think that it had a shot of winning), he used it during the test because his crush was his partner and she seemed to be in danger, and that he first used it to kill his mother when he was little when she attacked him in the middle of emotional resonance. A God would sort of blow these theories away.

 

Interesting to think that Varuna, who has killed the most Sura, would come to the aid of the grandson of a Nastika.

Edited by themantarays, 03 February 2014 - 09:04 AM.

[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

Babo kim?

 
Well if Ran had Fire Triple perhaps, but....
 

Interesting. We've always all assumed that he used a transcendental. If he summoned a God, it'd have to be Varuna.

Interesting to think that Varuna, who has killed the most Sura, would come to the aid of the grandson of a Nastika.

^Varyuna the sura killer is unlikely to do so.

[Mask19]

My bet is on using fiendish magic, power borrowed from sura. Might be why his divine ability is low.

[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

My bet is on using fiendish magic, power borrowed from sura. Might be why his divine ability is low.

according to Finite, the connection with Sura to use Fiendish magic was cut off even before Cataclysm and even Sura followers could not use them, so it is very unlikely.

But it will be a very interesting surprise if it was Fiend magic.

[zorn96]

according to Finite, the connection with Sura to use Fiendish magic was cut off even before Cataclysm and even Sura followers could not use them, so it is very unlikely.

But it will be a very interesting surprise if it was Fiend magic.

supposedly kali magic and visnu magic were gone as well

 

but we know that aasha can use hot visnu and we watched the chaos priestess use hoti kali silent magic when it should have been impossible. I was thinking that if they can do that (aasha due to a special connection with visnu and kali for an unknown reason) that it's still possible that some humans could  have fiendish magic if they directly connect with a superior sura or something

[Grincourt]

I doubt it. I think he used a powerful transcendal. You do have to remember that his grandmother is a powerful nastika

[zorn96]

everyone's commenting on the powerful transcendental, but if he can do that then why can't he fire the neutral bow? and since when does using transcendentals consume your life force?

 

I'm not trying to incite an argument, I'm just wondering if I missed something.

[Random-Webtoon-Fan]

everyone's commenting on the powerful transcendental, but if he can do that then why can't he fire the neutral bow? and since when does using transcendentals consume your life force?
 
I'm not trying to incite an argument, I'm just wondering if I missed something.

The Bow had to be shot in weirdway, and I think using items differfrom using trasedental anyway.


And there has been no talk about trasedental using up life force so far... So that give Gid summon theory some points.

[Readingfish]

everyone's commenting on the powerful transcendental, but if he can do that then why can't he fire the neutral bow? and since when does using transcendentals consume your life force?

 

I'm not trying to incite an argument, I'm just wondering if I missed something.

 

 

The Bow had to be shot in weirdway, and I think using items differfrom using trasedental anyway.


And there has been no talk about trasedental using up life force so far... So that give Gid summon theory some points.

 

I think Ran probably has a really high Transcendental value, but it would be a really high value for a Quarter.  Yuta himself said that the bow requires quite a lot of (was it vigor?).  I vaguely remember reading that the bow doesn't have to be shot that way, but since that's how they got it to work, they think that that's one of the tricks to shooting the bow?  

[Tierra]

Hm. I think there is something behind his Nastika-ancestry....

My bet is that he has a special transcendental.

 

Also, he is a quarter, but he once heard yutas sura-speech (v2 ch5 ) and recognized it as yutas voice. Maybe subcounsciously, he CAN understand sura^^

And before that, he had a bad feeling... (only yuta had this feeling too).

 

Maybe Ran is underestimated xD ... and underestimates himself.

[Rohan]

i think he is makeing up the lack of power by useing his lifeforce, also, remember that all spells are just transcedentals borrowed from the god and used in a systematic from.

so its not hard to belive that there is other transcedentals that bypass high vigor cost with the cost of life.

[Blunt]

I like the idea that he's using Nastika magic. The few things that I think lend credence to the theory are his heritage (he is the grandson of a Nastika King after all), his instinctual use of magic (he forgoes the use of formulas, if he relies on the Sura instincts in his blood it shouldn't be out of the question he could use their magic) and the use of his life force. While God Summoning is the most common magic that uses up the user's life force, we know there are serious consequences to using forbidden magics (Asha with Hoti Visnu). For Sura magic, it could be that his life is used up a little each time.