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[Secros Matias Supreme]

I haven't posted in a while but I just need to get this off my mind.

I'm don't know the attitude towards terrorism is in Korea but as I live in Canada, recent chapters have been disturbing close to certain events in the US.

I'm not sure if the creator understands the unfortunate implications of what X is making these children do?

Has anyone asked him/her yet (I don't speak Korean)?

Clearly X wanted leftarm guy to burn down the school even if he included the word, "accidentally". Even if X knew Leftarm would find a loop hole in the instructions he's still gambling that a fire might or might not be caused.

What's next?

What's the next thing X is going to ask the children to do "accidentally".

Edited by Secros Matias Supreme, 07 September 2013 - 06:08 PM.

[Ivy]

Instead of "terrorism", I'd rather say "vandalism". It's not like X belongs to a political organization that tries to achieve an agenda through those acts - as far as we know, at least (ch. 15). X said s/he was just doing it for "fun".

 

Besides, those children are the ones who accept or reject the quests, so they aren't forced to do anything they don't want to. To me, that's what makes the story interesting, because it shows how far the characters are willing to go, and how much their plans can go out of control. 

[HypeDay]

Well, I don't believe the creator wrote that part of the story in relating to anything going on w/ the US's situation, however, when I first the "accident" part, I was picturing him actually doing it and end up burning himself to death. As Ivy says, X is doing it for "fun" and with the latest chapter's title. DICE isnt not working towards gifts to these children, but rather create a Chaos.

[Secros Matias Supreme]

Besides, those children are the ones who accept or reject the quests, so they aren't forced to do anything they don't want to. To me, that's what makes the story interesting, because it shows how far the characters are willing to go, and how much their plans can go out of control.

Actually they are being forced. Forced to go to a horrible school where bullies send losers to buy them foodstuffs and neither the teachers nor the other students give a crap. But yeah you're right in that they're not being "forced" to play dice. I mean technically you're not being "forced" to live, the older dude (I think Taebin) thought that before he was saved. Technically a man starving for days isn't "forced" to eat from a garbage bin if he finds one. Same way these poor souls aren't "forced" to play dice. But in all seriousness this is the equivalent of Nike sweatshops. Setting up factories in areas where people are payed pennies for their dangerous labour. Giving the Dice to students in a horrible schooling environment. They aren't "forced" to work in demeaning and sickness inducing conditions. They aren't "forced" to learn around horrible and violent people. Think about that.

Well, I don't believe the creator wrote that part of the story in relating to anything going on w/ the US's situation, however, when I first the "accident" part, I was picturing him actually doing it and end up burning himself to death. As Ivy says, X is doing it for "fun" and with the latest chapter's title. DICE isnt not working towards gifts to these children, but rather create a Chaos.

Chaos? Sounds familiar.

Well I guess he had to choose the letter X cause W was too close to V!!!

Edited by Secros Matias Supreme, 11 September 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[Ivy]

(...). Giving the Dice to students in a horrible schooling environment. They aren't "forced" to work in demeaning and sickness inducing conditions. They aren't "forced" to learn around horrible and violent people. Think about that.

 

 

Horrible school environment? From what we know, only 2 people were bullied there - there may be some more, but all in all it seems like a common high school.

 

You're right, life was horrible for Dongtae and Byungchul, and it's only normal they wanted to change their lifes. That's the trick to it - a desperate person would do almost anything. X was taking advantage of that, for his own entertainment, no less. He's not a kind savior that want those "poor souls" to have a "better life." That's why the dicers shouldn't trust so much X and the quests. 

 

We'll see what happens on the next chapter, but my guess is the other dicers won't have such a reasonable justification as bullying for their acts.    

Edited by Ivy, 12 September 2013 - 12:57 AM.

[storyeater]

Yeah,they are ,psyhologically forced to use the dice,but,but they are given too many alternatives on HOW to use it 1)people choose which stats to increase,which makes a difference in everyday life.The first mistake was taking minmaxing a level too far 2)people choose how to use the stats they obtain.The second mistake was trying to abuse this power and trying to obtain much more AFTER the bullies left him alone 3)People choose what quests to accept and what not too,having freedom to refuse quests that rustle them the wrong way (like the protagonist refused to date that girl).The third,final and biggest mistake was to take a very obbviously questionable quest seriously,especially AFTER the bullies stopped heir bullying and ,therefore,there was NO HURRY (not no reason,just no hurry)to do them.Was he forced to use them?yes.Was he forced to make a cascalade of foolish and ,sometimes,obviously evil mistakes,even if we accept his obssesion was inevitable?no.He couldn't refuse the dice,but he could sneak inside the school,take the 5 dice and then get the hell outta there,refusing to continue that stupid chain.He made a lot of mistakes by his own choice undeniably,even by psyhology...but in the end,thats what makes x and his die so dangerous...that everything is chosen by one's own free will,in the end,and someone has to do a lot of mistakes to fail.In the end everything is chosen ,or at least the quests are:unlike the dice,its a controlable situation,where even one who was forced to roll still has enough free will to avoid moral decay and an inevitable fatality...And yet,I bet many wont use that free will correctly...