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[Viscoun]

(Not sure if this should belong here or Quality Assurance or somewhere else, but I'll put it here first.)

 

Lately, I've been seeing a lot of manga forums titled "spoilers/raw discussion thread", made by this guy called konokon. He doesn't post anything about discussing anything in the threads, however; rather, he posts links to an online manga raw reader called SenManga.

 

His signature's also a link to SenManga's Facebook page, so it's easy to see he's not really there to discuss much, but simply to post links to the latest raws for the manga to which the manga forum in question belongs.

 

I know it's not really that much of an inconvenience since people don't really use the manga forums much unless it's for really popular manga (whether that's a good thing or not can be subject to later debate), but it's still sort of irritating to see it pop up occasionally, like some sort of unpaid ad or forum exploit (which, of course, it is.) Granted, it's not everywhere (for now), but I still see it from time to time. (As a scanlator, it's particularly irksome for me since I'd like to see myself get ahead of "raw providers" like these ones.)

 

Would these kinds of posts be considered spam or not? It would be like posting a comment on a manga saying "Get new raws here! <link>". Might not be annoying for some, but might be annoying for others. I dunno. If it's not that big an issue, then forget it.

 

(I would post links to some manga pages that I've found these kinds of forums on, but that would take some time... Like I said, it's not everywhere. It just pops up from time to time, like a fly in your fruitcake. Or something like that. I'm bad with analogies...)

Edited by Viscoun Kosaka, 20 August 2013 - 01:46 PM.

[svines85]

Lately, I've been seeing a lot of manga forums titled "spoilers/raw discussion thread", made by this guy called konokon. He doesn't post anything about discussing anything in the threads, however; rather, he posts links to an online manga raw reader called SenManga.

 

His signature's also a link to SenManga's Facebook page, so it's easy to see he's not really there to discuss much, but simply to post links to the latest raws for the manga to which the manga forum in question belongs.

Yeah, I'd for sure have to agree with you on this point at least, I've tried to initiate conversation in three or four of these forums and never gotten even an acknowledgement..........and not questions about the individual comic or content, but about the links, other raw chapters being available, the linked site....... the sort of thing that I really expected a response to from them.  

[Viscoun]

almost seems like it's a bot, doesn't it...

[svines85]

uhhhh............yeah, really, I hate to say that but yeah, it kinda does.

 

And while I like a good spoiler as much as the next reader, you're really right, it's probably not too fine a line from commercial spamming. 

[mhh]

Everything posted an all topics created by this member have been removed. I apologize to everybody who actually posted in the threads.

 

Thank you for brining that to our attention.

 

 

The posts are considered as spam, because first of all the users actions here are aimed at profiting from our users. (Lots of links to their website from outside => better rating from search engines, and ofc the direkt trafic generated, etc ...)

 

Also while, some raw links in the forums aren't a problem, simply linking to material that we do not allow on Batoto on such a scale won't do. There is a reason why we do not allow it. 

[Viscoun]

thanks mhh!

[seyrine]

duh, who cares about posting some shit, atleast konokon.active in forum and give you guys some reply post. shit out.

Spamming is not considered as "active", especially when you do it for personal (term used very loosely) gain rather than actually contributing to the discussion. 

[konokon]

batoto forum active? almost all subforums are dead. i created thread and still none replied there. yes i admit it appear sometimes  kind of spamming but how many users have here 700+ posts and 41likes? i am still not member of any site . yes i am now creator at fb-page of senmanga and that's it. how many members her discuss series. almost 80% of manga series threads have no post. i made many having their 1st threads. i am avid viewer at batoto and share batoto links on many other forums that means sharing batoto content is also spam. i share what i like. neither senmanga nor batoto pay me.

[mhh]

To get a reply you need to post something of valuable content. Simply dropping a link usually does not fall into that category.  And if you share the Batoto links the same way you did the SenManga links I would consider those spam as well.

 

And you might have noticed that Batoto does not host RAW Scans of any kind. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that while we tolerate some of it linking to raws on such a big scale will not be tolerated regardless of your affiliation. 

 

If you have any more questions feel free to PM me here or e-mail me at mhh[at]batoto[dot]com. However, do not expect my position to change on this subject.