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[Grumpy]

These are the age rating systems I plan to put in for Batoto eventually. It's based on MPAA Rating System, though, it's not the MPAA rating system since these aren't graded by them. These ratings will be judged by the community in the absence of official ratings. If official rating is present, closest will be set.

Why based on MPAA System? I think most people are familiar with this than any other system.

 rating-g.png   8.24KB   7 downloads G for General. Everyone can view this.
 rating-pg.png   8.15KB   6 downloads PG - Parental Guidance. Some parents may not want their young kids watching this.
 rating-pgp.png   8.3KB   14 downloads PG+ - Parental Guidance is heavily suggested for younger audience. Alternatively 13+.
 rating-r.png   8.17KB   54 downloads R - Restricted: These will give warnings when you try to view the comic. If you're registered with birth date, the warning may be skipped. Alternatively 17+.
 rating-ao.png   7.76KB   74 downloads AO - Adult Only. These will NOT be hosted on Batoto. But, the data of the subject in question may be present (as a notice for others to not upload) and for the sake of completeness.

Language - Applicable Ratings: G and up
Usage of strong or sexual words will require at least PG.
Heavy usage of profane language will require at least R.

Drugs - Applicable Ratings: PG and up
Any usage of illegal drugs will require at least PG.
Heavy graphic and/or explicit scene of illegal drug use will require at least R.

Sexual content - Applicable Ratings: PG+ and up
Strong sexual content will get an R rating.
Shirtless men are allowed in G-rated, while topless women usually earn at least a PG+ (Exception to the that is for art paintings).
Any pornographic content or showing genitalia is AO (not allowed).

Violence - Applicable Ratings: PG and up.
Fantasy, robot, historical or educational violence is acceptable for PG.
Other forms of violence requires at least PG+

[potato]

I dream of a world where shirtless men get the same rating as shirtless women let the sexism end!

[powha]

Keep dreaming

[Sality]

fact -> 90% of kids will open AO content and doesn't read the warning .. btw, I think your plan is a good idea to make batoto better.

[drosfix]

It's a great Ide but, just as NewBie said nobody almost no smaler kids read the warnings:

[cyborgmosquito]

I dream of a world where shirtless men get the same rating as shirtless women let the sexism end!

Well, since shirtless men and shirtless women both hold the same sexual and indecency connotations, it would be prudent to give them the same ratings.... :/

[Elrohon]

Oh, thank goodness that I can skip the underage warnings

[lactea]

 rating-ao.png   7.76KB   74 downloads AO - Adult Only. These will NOT be hosted on Batoto. But, the data of the subject in question may be present (as a notice for others to not upload) and for the sake of completeness.

Sexual content
Any pornographic content or showing genitalia is AO (not allowed).

Talking about not hosting AO on Batoto while having this
http://vatoto.com/read/_/7692/sun-ken-rock_v1_ch6_by_random-scanlations/21
http://vatoto.com/read/_/9069/sun-ken-rock_v2_ch7-_by_random-scanlations/14
http://vatoto.com/read/_/9090/sun-ken-rock_v2_ch9_by_random-scanlations/24
http://vatoto.com/read/_/13015/sun-ken-rock_v9_ch53_by_random-scanlations/26
http://vatoto.com/read/_/13110/sun-ken-rock_v9_ch54_by_xscansx/5
In top1 spot Is kinda hypocrite.

I like SunKenRock, but I can't understand why it should be allowed while other AO manga not. Or why other manga should be forbidden and SKR allowed.

[Grumpy]

Well, that's due to number of reasons.
1. This is a suggestion/plan for the future.
2. SKR doesn't actually show any genitalia and one could argue there are value to the comic other than sex. (The same argument is used by movies that have sex scenes for example)
3. It's a bit of a loose border on what's lacking in management.
- and a separation line -
4. We'll probably have a sister site for batoto to host AO stuff in time...

[aku720]

well there are lots of manga which are very popular but have adult contents(nozoki ana, aki-sora etc) and its a pity that they are not available here to read but it makes batoto kind of a exclusive and different from other manga reading sites which dont have any kind of rules

[Cesc]

4. We'll probably have a sister site for batoto to host AO stuff in time...

Well, I hope so, because like aku says, there are lots of good mangas with adult content..

Edited by Cesc, 20 October 2011 - 04:27 AM.

[cloud_above]

when is this system going to be implemented?

[Yu Han Sung]

Hmmm, so this means that "topless women" as in "art painting" falls under PG+, huh? So this title will no longer fall under "Mature", I guess.

http://vatoto.com/comic/_/comics/the-touching-legends-of-the-chinese-beauties-r1825

[Grumpy]

Hmmm, so this means that "topless women" as in "art painting" falls under PG+, huh? So this title will no longer fall under "Mature", I guess.

http://www.batoto.co...-beauties-r1825

Said "topless woman" needs a rating greater or equal to PG+. The degree of toplessness may warrant a higher rating.
A material containing a painting of Venus by Sandro Botticelli for example can be a rating lower than PG+ as it's an exception of "art painting".

Though, I guess I worded it rather poorly as I was busy copying from MPAA rules. lol but the exception really means in this context
http://www.artcentergallery.com/gallery/vladimir-kush/kush-gallery-wall.jpg
not this context
http://vatoto.com/read/_/39099/the-touching-legends-of-the-chinese-beauties_v1.1_by_aethereality/4
MPAA only rates movies, so it kinda needs that train of thought.

Answering to the specific title of the-touching-legends-of-the-chinese-beauties, I do find it fit to have a PG+ rating, not because it falls under an exception, but simply because it's content is suitable for PG+.

[cloud_above]

Hmmm, so this means that "topless women" as in "art painting" falls under PG+, huh? So this title will no longer fall under "Mature", I guess.

http://www.batoto.co...-beauties-r1825

LOL its just common sense for this age rating

obviously theres gonna be some anomalies in a manga, but that wouldn't influence the target of the audience

[Kalladin]

Looks like a new system, I have high hopes but remember a lot of the community are underage... That may or may not affect how the ratings work.

I suggest a overriding system. Where admin's ratings can override the community set ones. This may include the uploaders and or the group's choice.

[MOFD]

All I want to find is the bloody list that tells me what will never see the light of day on this site so I can go else where.

[MOFD]

I know I'm not the only person out there wanting to know the list. A simple black list for the over 18 viewers if possible added along with the age rating system will allow the lot of us to both become aware of newer titles as well as older ones. Because at the moment I'm going to have to check other manga viewing sites to make sure I don't miss any new series. Just food for thought. This may be the main point that keeps mangafox and other readers alive for far longer then you would like. Its all fine and dandy that you don't like AO, but some support for the those of us who do would be much appreciated.

Edited by MOFD, 27 October 2011 - 08:34 AM.

[mhh]

Honestly, I have trouble to give a calm answer to a "I want so give me!! nao!" type post. I'll try anyway...

First of all there is no such list. At the moment we work on the system as we go it's not complete and not definite. Efficiently creating a list would require somebody looking at all the comics that could be possibly AO-Content which would take an insane amount of time. Time that can be spent in areas that are more urgent. Also it's not about us liking or disliking AO-Content it's to create a save space for all ages to read.

For you information: there are plans to have a sister site, that will host the AO-Content in the future.

Additionally:
Have you ever tried looking at http://www.mangaupdates.com/releases.html if you are afraid to miss new releases?

[MOFD]

Honestly, I have trouble to give a calm answer to a "I want so give me!! nao!" type post. I'll try anyway...

First of all there is no such list. At the moment we work on the system as we go it's not complete and not definite. Efficiently creating a list would require somebody looking at all the comics that could be possibly AO-Content which would take an insane amount of time. Time that can be spent in areas that are more urgent. Also it's not about us liking or disliking AO-Content it's to create a save space for all ages to read.

For you information: there are plans to have a sister site, that will host the AO-Content in the future.

Additionally:
Have you ever tried looking at http://www.mangaupda...m/releases.html if you are afraid to miss new releases?

ah ok, I was under the impression that all AO- rated content would be neglected and or shunned. My main concern was with series that were in the gray area if you will between R and AO. But I will wait and see how the rating system will draw the lines. Thank you for responding and not locking the thread. By the way, I have seriously considered your suggestion and will be doing just that from now on.

Edited by MOFD, 28 October 2011 - 07:13 AM.