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World Trigger


Alt Names: alt 境界触发者alt ワールド·トリガー
Author: Ashihara Daisuke
Artist: Ashihara Daisuke
Genres: Action ActionAdventure AdventureComedy ComedyDrama DramaMystery MysterySchool Life School LifeSci-fi Sci-fiShounen ShounenSupernatural SupernaturalTragedy Tragedy
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: A gate to another dimension has burst open, and from it emerge gigantic invincible creatures that threaten all of humanity. Earth's only defense is a mysterious group of warriors who have co-opted the alien technology in order to fight back!

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>World Trigger Oneshots:

ROOM 303 (2008):
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/room-303-r15093

Trigger Keeper (2009):
Part 1: http://chippokenabokura.tumblr.com/post/116637617988/world-trigger-pilot-trigger-keeper-translation
Part 2: http://chippokenabokura.tumblr.com/post/116715852393/world-trigger-pilot-trigger-keeper-translation

Talented Elite Jin (2011):
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/talented-elite-jin-r15150
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Lots of discussion here about whether or not Omasu would be a better sniper than... whatever he is now (gunner, I guess?), but I honestly think he's better off just being an operator. No trion/combat skills needed and they can still make use of his excellent strategies. But, to be fair, we haven't really seen the operator role showcased much, so perhaps they're limited in what they can see/do. Still, I feel that would be the best role for him since it seems like he's mostly a liability on the field and they have three strong combatants now, so they don't really need him.

 

I think thats whats going to happen in the future. I mean isnt the rank matches a three person team only? Please correct me if im wrong though. If thats the case only Osamu will be taken out as a combatant since he's really the weakest link among the team IMO. At least Chika whom cant shoot directly to destroy, but at the very least she can now incapacitate people and pretty much can demolish the surroundings.

Someone did not protect Kido´s smile.

They were all so cute before people started dying.

Does this mean Yuma and Kage and Ko are all going to hang out together after this. Because that is one hell of a house-gathering if so and I really REALLY want to see it.

 

Apparently Kage and Ko are in the same class and Kage's dad is an okonomiyaki chef (according to BBF) so maybe they'll be going to his restaurant afterwards. Would explain why Yuma doesn't need dinner after.

I just want to point out that Kronin had already appeared in the first chapter of the manga, unless Ashihara sameface is tricking me but I don't think so. He's behing Jin, next to loli Kitora.

Also, I wonder if Osamu's new room was Kido's(Masamune) or some relative of his that died, anyways i'm really hyped about this since Kido is one of my favorite character and he's really mysterious, so this should shed some lights

Holy shit man, you're right.

 

And rereading the first chapter...

HOLY SHIT, IT'S FUCKING GLORIOUS HOW HE CONNECTS EVERYTHING TOGETHER. EVEN THE RANDOM SHIT SAID IN THE FIRST CHAPTER.

A quick question about lead bullet. So far, it is only affecting trion body, or is there a case where it is not?

 

Considering it can be blocked with phisical stuff I would say it can affect regular bodies and structures too, In a life or death situation (without bail out) they could probably get free once if they remove their trion body but still have the chance to get caught again, kinda like Osamu against Mira (that was the name of the female black trigger user from aftokrator?).

A quick question about lead bullet. So far, it is only affecting trion body, or is there a case where it is not?

Lots of discussion here about whether or not Omasu would be a better sniper than... whatever he is now (gunner, I guess?), but I honestly think he's better off just being an operator. No trion/combat skills needed and they can still make use of his excellent strategies. But, to be fair, we haven't really seen the operator role showcased much, so perhaps they're limited in what they can see/do. Still, I feel that would be the best role for him since it seems like he's mostly a liability on the field and they have three strong combatants now, so they don't really need him.

Of course most would preffer him (or see him better) as an operator but there is no hope of going that way.

 

PS: Shooter is what's called the middle range/no gun position.

Lots of discussion here about whether or not Omasu would be a better sniper than... whatever he is now (gunner, I guess?), but I honestly think he's better off just being an operator. No trion/combat skills needed and they can still make use of his excellent strategies. But, to be fair, we haven't really seen the operator role showcased much, so perhaps they're limited in what they can see/do. Still, I feel that would be the best role for him since it seems like he's mostly a liability on the field and they have three strong combatants now, so they don't really need him.
[EMPTY SLOT]

Solid proof that the author is trolling game nerds.

I just want to point out that Kronin had already appeared in the first chapter of the manga, unless Ashihara sameface is tricking me but I don't think so. He's behing Jin, next to loli Kitora.

Also, I wonder if Osamu's new room was Kido's(Masamune) or some relative of his that died, anyways i'm really hyped about this since Kido is one of my favorite character and he's really mysterious, so this should shed some lights

Ok let me be clearer on what I said about Osamu, since it seems I wasn't clear enough: I think Osamu would be a subpar sniper, but IMHO he would be a better sniper than he will ever be a field player, and this because of two reasons:
 
- First Osamu is a cerberal fighter far more than one with actual fighting skills ( while TBH he is a very fast thinker and is surprisingly adaptable, where he shines is in actual planning ). So he would be far better fit for a role that allowed him to lurk in the shadows and to give him time to think in some viperine attack and/ or to help coordinate the other players while seeing stuff from a vantage point. Snipers , with their typical bagworn secondary trigger and natural penchant for places with a good view, naturally fit that .
- Secondly, while technically snipers need more trion than most triggers, that only applies when they actually shoot and , if you actually see the combats , very rarely you see a sniper taking more than three shots in a whole match.... and this without mentioning that the role of snipers most of the times is more of menace than of actual shooting ( as in "I can't go in the open because there is a sniper over there, so I can't attack how I want " ). While the author does not give numbers about trion usage of diferent triggers, I seriously doubt that Osamu couldn't shoot a sniper trigger 2 or 3 times and would be very, VERY surprised if he doesn't end spending more trion in Asteroids, shields and trion nets than that in any one the games he played so far or in the actual RL battles he already fought.
 
Again, this is my opinion ;)
On Chika ... well, I understand why she started as sniper, but atleast for me it clear since last game that at this point Chika has enough confidence to venture on the field without protection and she would probably have even more if she actually had a shield trigger ( remember, shield triggers are as strong as the trion the user puts on them and the area they actually protect. Chika would most likely have no issue on making a full protection shield that only Lead bullets could pierce ... and there aren't that much of people that use lead bullets ).
 
Sure, she doesn't have the reflexes or the fighting spirit of most of BORDER agents, but I'm pretty sure she could be the best Tank  there is with a shield trigger, and as a Tank can basically just Tank and protect more active team members, she wouldn't even have to do much more than to stay still to be very useful ;)
 
P.S. I also understand that changing and respec the team members would be a not so good decision in the short run given the timetable in hand, but remember that the main objective is NOT getting in the first three teams, but to go out there and most likely fight with professional soldiers using triggers in their territory. Not playing to the team members strengths is not exactly the best long term decision ... ( note that the BORDER execs agree with me partly, because they surely don't want to take Chika out there because of her skills as a sniper ;) )

I'm going to recommend you do some stringent rereading since Osamu like most agents has a bagworm in his set and Chika like most agents has two shields in her set.

But if you really have your heart set on Osamu being sniper he could end up doing something similar to Katagiri by having an egret while primarily being mid range.

They've been training all this time to fit their roles, changing positions now is a terrible decision in the short-term, therefore something they should avoid, considering their short-term goal of getting to 2nd place.

 

Hyuse won't be a tank per se, and even if he will seem like one, you're forgetting his fighting style. His picks are basically an attempt to mimic all of his black trigger's functionalities with border triggers.

 

You agree that Osamu would be a useless sniper, but you still want to position him there? he currently takes a support position, which includes enhancing the fighting capabilities of the ace(s) a la wires, and light suppression fire. It is doubtful if his bullets will even hit as a sniper with how low his trion is. I think he's making the best out of having both low trion and low close-quarters fighting capability.

 

Chika outside of the sniper position would be just as useless. She can't fight! she's nuking *close* to enemies, and using lead bullets for exactly this reason. She won't be able to target anything properly if she's not a sniper.

Shields can only get you so far, she would still be susceptible to attack from many angles, and the team needs someone who can actually contribute to the attack. Her being on the front line is a bad choice.

 

As for everyone going for Osamu, this is just for now in the rank wars where everyone knows how the rest fight. I'm looking forward to when they get to fight humanoid neighbors again.

Ok let me be clearer on what I said about Osamu, since it seems I wasn't clear enough: I think Osamu would be a subpar sniper, but IMHO he would be a better sniper than he will ever be a field player, and this because of two reasons:

 

- First Osamu is a cerberal fighter far more than one with actual fighting skills ( while TBH he is a very fast thinker and is surprisingly adaptable, where he shines is in actual planning ). So he would be far better fit for a role that allowed him to lurk in the shadows and to give him time to think in some viperine attack and/ or to help coordinate the other players while seeing stuff from a vantage point. Snipers , with their typical bagworn secondary trigger and natural penchant for places with a good view, naturally fit that .

- Secondly, while technically snipers need more trion than most triggers, that only applies when they actually shoot and , if you actually see the combats , very rarely you see a sniper taking more than three shots in a whole match.... and this without mentioning that the role of snipers most of the times is more of menace than of actual shooting ( as in "I can't go in the open because there is a sniper over there, so I can't attack how I want " ). While the author does not give numbers about trion usage of diferent triggers, I seriously doubt that Osamu couldn't shoot a sniper trigger 2 or 3 times and would be very, VERY surprised if he doesn't end spending more trion in Asteroids, shields and trion nets than that in any one the games he played so far or in the actual RL battles he already fought.

 

Again, this is my opinion ;)

On Chika ... well, I understand why she started as sniper, but atleast for me it clear since last game that at this point Chika has enough confidence to venture on the field without protection and she would probably have even more if she actually had a shield trigger ( remember, shield triggers are as strong as the trion the user puts on them and the area they actually protect. Chika would most likely have no issue on making a full protection shield that only Lead bullets could pierce ... and there aren't that much of people that use lead bullets ).

 

Sure, she doesn't have the reflexes or the fighting spirit of most of BORDER agents, but I'm pretty sure she could be the best Tank  there is with a shield trigger, and as a Tank can basically just Tank and protect more active team members, she wouldn't even have to do much more than to stay still to be very useful ;)

 

P.S. I also understand that changing and respec the team members would be a not so good decision in the short run given the timetable in hand, but remember that the main objective is NOT getting in the first three teams, but to go out there and most likely fight with professional soldiers using triggers in their territory. Not playing to the team members strengths is not exactly the best long term decision ... ( note that the BORDER execs agree with me partly, because they surely don't want to take Chika out there because of her skills as a sniper ;) )

There are 3 others?? o.O

there is one (very minor character) in medabots anime, 1 in hetailia: axis powers, ginban kaleidescope;

I know I've read more, but I don't remember the series

 

please remember that michael kronin is a fake though.

Micheal Kronin

 

4th Canadaian I've ever seen in anime and manga

 

There are 3 others?? o.O

Micheal Kronin

 

4th Canadaian I've ever seen in anime and manga

 

OTOH Chika is a terrible pick as a sniper since she is way too powerful for a job that requires some finesse unless you want to go for the "erase everything" Chika pulled up in the first team game ( and that requires seeing the oponent, something Chika has issues with ). Chika would far better suited for anything that requires a lot of trion by default ... like being a walking shield, for a example ( or to lay massive nets of strings ;) ). With the ammount of Trion she has, she could walk in plain sight with no one being able to touch her except for Lead bullets .... that only other 2 persons besides her have been shown to know how to use. TBH I still don't understand why the author has put Chika as a sniper when it was painfully obvious she would be such a bad fit there :/

 

Well considering Chika's personality and lack of combat experience and physical adeptness a sniper fits pretty well. Even if she has an incredible amount of Trion she lacks the reflexes and drive of an attacker, and while she would have an explosive amount of power as a gunner she arguably would still do poorly in direct confrontations if the enemy manages to get past her explosive suppressive fire. Placing her as the sniper allows for her to largely avoid direct conflict, since her job is sneaking around and attacking from a distance, and fits her passive personality. While someone else with similar trion levels might fit better in another role Chika just isn't aggressive or skilled enough to be an effective attacker or gunner. 

It's not just equal footing, it's diferent talents. People that use better the secondary triggers, all arounders, teamwork. If we were with using only koutetsu probably Tachikawa would be number 1 but maybe he couldn't beat Jin with both using scorpion.

 

Just would like to know what trigger Hyuse would built if he was focusing in 1 vs 1.

One that can separate, float, move around in the air, and conduct electricity to create a magnetic field.

Preferable a black one.

OTOH Chika is a terrible pick as a sniper since she is way too powerful for a job that requires some finesse unless you want to go for the "erase everything" Chika pulled up in the first team game ( and that requires seeing the oponent, something Chika has issues with ). Chika would far better suited for anything that requires a lot of trion by default ... like being a walking shield, for a example ( or to lay massive nets of strings ;) ). With the ammount of Trion she has, she could walk in plain sight with no one being able to touch her except for Lead bullets .... that only other 2 persons besides her have been shown to know how to use. TBH I still don't understand why the author has put Chika as a sniper when it was painfully obvious she would be such a bad fit there :/

 

Probably the writter made her a sniper to enchance the "I can't kill" drama.

I SAID

 

"SO HYUSE ITS AN ALLROUNDER

 

NOW THEY ONLY NEED THEIR OWN OPERATOR.

THEY SHOULD RETRIEVE REPLICA AND GIVE HIM A BODY THAT LOOKS LIKE MIWAS DEAD SISTER JUST TO FUCK WITH HIM"

 

I SAID THAT

 

SO POST IT

Well it looks like they can keep Shiori since Yuri is the main operator for T-1.

I SAID

 

"SO HYUSE ITS AN ALLROUNDER

 

NOW THEY ONLY NEED THEIR OWN OPERATOR.

THEY SHOULD RETRIEVE REPLICA AND GIVE HIM A BODY THAT LOOKS LIKE MIWAS DEAD SISTER JUST TO FUCK WITH HIM"

 

I SAID THAT

 

SO POST IT

Well you can all figured Konami personality really, she is always bragging about herself like that, so no she is not number 1. :D

Not necessarily, she does have some pretty wicked skills as an attacker I don't really buy her being only 3rd place, she might just be an equal to Tachikawa, who knows?

True, Osamu would be a terrible sniper, but he is also a terrible field player ( arguably even worse ) due to exact same reason you pointed: lack of Trion. But atleast as a sniper he would be able to leverage his only real skill ( his planning abilities ) because he could more easily go into the shadows, while as a field player he will always be put as the first victim by the enemy teams, especially since everyone understood that the more time Osamu is in the field , more traps he can lay ( we saw exactly that in the last game, and it was only by luck he was able to lay enough traps to make a diference ). As one of the commenters has put in a early game, Osamu will always be the first one to go down as soon as he is in the field ...

 

OTOH Chika is a terrible pick as a sniper since she is way too powerful for a job that requires some finesse unless you want to go for the "erase everything" Chika pulled up in the first team game ( and that requires seeing the oponent, something Chika has issues with ). Chika would far better suited for anything that requires a lot of trion by default ... like being a walking shield, for a example ( or to lay massive nets of strings ;) ). With the ammount of Trion she has, she could walk in plain sight with no one being able to touch her except for Lead bullets .... that only other 2 persons besides her have been shown to know how to use. TBH I still don't understand why the author has put Chika as a sniper when it was painfully obvious she would be such a bad fit there :/

 

That said, this is me just ranting about Hyuse choosing to take one for the team and to play tank ( that it is sorely needed, I reckon ... because Osamu needs to protected in the field :D ), when it is obvious he could be atleast as good as Yuma in close quarters. Sure, reshuffling the team places would need time they don't have, but sometimes I wonder why the author is so adamant on putting Osamu ( and Chika, and from this episode on, Hyuse) in a place where he is such a bad fit...

They've been training all this time to fit their roles, changing positions now is a terrible decision in the short-term, therefore something they should avoid, considering their short-term goal of getting to 2nd place.

 

Hyuse won't be a tank per se, and even if he will seem like one, you're forgetting his fighting style. His picks are basically an attempt to mimic all of his black trigger's functionalities with border triggers.

 

You agree that Osamu would be a useless sniper, but you still want to position him there? he currently takes a support position, which includes enhancing the fighting capabilities of the ace(s) a la wires, and light suppression fire. It is doubtful if his bullets will even hit as a sniper with how low his trion is. I think he's making the best out of having both low trion and low close-quarters fighting capability.

 

Chika outside of the sniper position would be just as useless. She can't fight! she's nuking *close* to enemies, and using lead bullets for exactly this reason. She won't be able to target anything properly if she's not a sniper.

Shields can only get you so far, she would still be susceptible to attack from many angles, and the team needs someone who can actually contribute to the attack. Her being on the front line is a bad choice.

 

As for everyone going for Osamu, this is just for now in the rank wars where everyone knows how the rest fight. I'm looking forward to when they get to fight humanoid neighbors again.

True, Osamu would be a terrible sniper, but he is also a terrible field player ( arguably even worse ) due to exact same reason you pointed: lack of Trion. But atleast as a sniper he would be able to leverage his only real skill ( his planning abilities ) because he could more easily go into the shadows, while as a field player he will always be put as the first victim by the enemy teams, especially since everyone understood that the more time Osamu is in the field , more traps he can lay ( we saw exactly that in the last game, and it was only by luck he was able to lay enough traps to make a diference ). As one of the commenters has put in a early game, Osamu will always be the first one to go down as soon as he is in the field ...
 
OTOH Chika is a terrible pick as a sniper since she is way too powerful for a job that requires some finesse unless you want to go for the "erase everything" Chika pulled up in the first team game ( and that requires seeing the oponent, something Chika has issues with ). Chika would far better suited for anything that requires a lot of trion by default ... like being a walking shield, for a example ( or to lay massive nets of strings ;) ). With the ammount of Trion she has, she could walk in plain sight with no one being able to touch her except for Lead bullets .... that only other 2 persons besides her have been shown to know how to use. TBH I still don't understand why the author has put Chika as a sniper when it was painfully obvious she would be such a bad fit there :/
 
That said, this is me just ranting about Hyuse choosing to take one for the team and to play tank ( that it is sorely needed, I reckon ... because Osamu needs to protected in the field :D ), when it is obvious he could be atleast as good as Yuma in close quarters. Sure, reshuffling the team places would need time they don't have, but sometimes I wonder why the author is so adamant on putting Osamu ( and Chika, and from this episode on, Hyuse) in a place where he is such a bad fit...

Honestly Osamu is a pretty solid to good field player for his experience level. Attacker trigger and semi auto shooting benefit people with low Trion pretty well as we have seen with Kitora and Yoneya. Osamu also has been one of the top scorers in the last two matches especially compared to other support members, so your claim has no precidence.

And Chika dosent have the disposition for either attacker or shooter as was established early on. Not to mention she is pretty good at sniping for someone at her level and likes the position.

As for Hyuse being a tank, it's to be expected. Lampyris was basically a tank focused trigger as well, so it fits his skill set to fill this position which was sorely needed as stated by Touma.

Switching positions would be a terrible idea since that would throw all their current efforts and developments out the window even if they were suited for other classes. Not to mention Osamu couldn't be a sniper since you need at least an average amount of trion.

True, Osamu would be a terrible sniper, but he is also a terrible field player ( arguably even worse ) due to exact same reason you pointed: lack of Trion. But atleast as a sniper he would be able to leverage his only real skill ( his planning abilities ) because he could more easily go into the shadows, while as a field player he will always be put as the first victim by the enemy teams, especially since everyone understood that the more time Osamu is in the field , more traps he can lay ( we saw exactly that in the last game, and it was only by luck he was able to lay enough traps to make a diference ). As one of the commenters has put in a early game, Osamu will always be the first one to go down as soon as he is in the field ...

 

OTOH Chika is a terrible pick as a sniper since she is way too powerful for a job that requires some finesse unless you want to go for the "erase everything" Chika pulled up in the first team game ( and that requires seeing the oponent, something Chika has issues with ). Chika would far better suited for anything that requires a lot of trion by default ... like being a walking shield, for a example ( or to lay massive nets of strings ;) ). With the ammount of Trion she has, she could walk in plain sight with no one being able to touch her except for Lead bullets .... that only other 2 persons besides her have been shown to know how to use. TBH I still don't understand why the author has put Chika as a sniper when it was painfully obvious she would be such a bad fit there :/

 

That said, this is me just ranting about Hyuse choosing to take one for the team and to play tank ( that it is sorely needed, I reckon ... because Osamu needs to protected in the field :D ), when it is obvious he could be atleast as good as Yuma in close quarters. Sure, reshuffling the team places would need time they don't have, but sometimes I wonder why the author is so adamant on putting Osamu ( and Chika, and from this episode on, Hyuse) in a place where he is such a bad fit...


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