Rock melt: Fiance wa Yukiotoko

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Sorry, didn't realize you were one of those people.  It is frightening the speed at which the term has morphed since it first started getting bandied about.
Look, if it doesn't mean anything much to you why do you bother talking about it like it's some Really Bad Thing?

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A brief history of the term "Netorare", or "NTR", as I understand it:
Stage 1:  A little-known expression relating to nasty cuckoldry scenes in hentai, usually involving actually screwing somebody else right in front of one's significant other, deliberately for the purpose of creating jealousy and humiliation.
Stage 2:  People start to use it to refer to, or predict, cases of cheating actually involving sex and humiliating jealousy in normal manga; predictions of this are generally wrong since this is quite rare in non-hentai.  It's a quite inflammatory claim at this stage, so trolls enjoy talking about it and it becomes a popular term.
Stage 3:  Excitable people start saying "NTR" about any cheating in a manga.
Stage 4:  Particularly excitable people, and people unaware of how it started out, start saying "NTR" about almost anything that represents a romantic plot complication, basically extending the concept of "cheating" in milder form to any situation in which there is anything even vaguely resembling a triangle.
Reaching stage 4 took only about a year tops from the time it started getting popularized in stage 2.  It's kind of ridiculous.  But it also means the very mild stage 4 term kind of carries the baggage of the really "Whoa, serious shit" stage 2 term, since lots of people still think of it as meaning what it, well, actually means. 
At this point, any time someone says "NTR", no matter what they mean, people who were around when it started being used and remember will consider the user either a troll or ignorant.  So it's probably an expression worth not using, like, at all.

I wrote NTR because she's his love interest. I don't think you have to be in a relationship with the 3rd party to get NTR'd.

Sorry, didn't realize you were one of those people.  It is frightening the speed at which the term has morphed since it first started getting bandied about.

Look, if it doesn't mean anything much to you why do you bother talking about it like it's some Really Bad Thing?

And we're back to using "NTR" where it doesn't belong.

That seems a little strong . . . for one thing, how do you get "NTR"?  She's not in any way shape or form dating the younger brother; is she supposed to be his property or something?

And while the older brother blames himself a whole bunch for what happened in the past, he didn't actually do anything particularly terrible--teased his younger bro a bit.  He did not, for instance, nearly freeze anyone to death.  How was he supposed to know the kid would snap and almost kill her having his little tantrum?  I think you're taking the older bro's self-blame at face value a little too much, but what I see is someone who has been trying, somewhat, to put himself in the background and hand things to his brother out of guilt even though he has no real responsibility to do so.  He may not always do the right thing, but at least the idea is on his radar.

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And younger bro to this day goes berserk any time he gets a bit miffed.  Isn't it maybe time he learned some self-control, along with perhaps a smidgen of manners?  I know he's supposed to be a tsundere or whatever, or that I'm supposed to forgive him because he had a traumatic event (specifically, nearly killing someone), but it doesn't come off entirely like that to me.  Frankly, he's bloody spoiled is what he is.  Not a bad guy underneath that no doubt, but as he is he seems to have no capacity for self-reflection; he just lurches from event to event doing whatever his poorly-understood mishmash of emotions and neuroses prompt him to at the moment, not really thinking at all about what impact it will have on anyone else.  I don't think he's self-centred exactly, in his own weird way he cares about other people, but he's very self-absorbed--he doesn't think about those other people or what they might want or need.

 

Maybe this impression will shift if we ever get some character development for him.  Older bro seems more attractive at this point because he comes off as a real character, a human being with at least a few inches of depth, whereas younger brother as shown thus far is almost an automaton, someone with no control over himself so everyone else has to take responsibility for his actions, even down to conducting his romance for him based on the notion that he doesn't consciously realize he loves the girl so he can't be expected to court her himself.  Hopefully we get an arc at some point where he bloody sucks it up, faces himself, tries to deal with his feelings and take control over what he does.

I wrote NTR because she's his love interest. I don't think you have to be in a relationship with the 3rd party to get NTR'd. Okay, older bro didn't have sex with her (yet), but the kiss shows his true intentions : taking the girl for himself, even though he *knows* his little bro likes her and always has, even though he knows it's partly his fault that they were both traumatized and that the little brother is the way he is.

It's like saying "oh well, I tried to do good, but now it's time to be selfish". On more than one page, he's clearly looking down on his little bro.

http://vatoto.com/reader#405f9df86535ee46_13"poor little bro is so easy to understand"

http://vatoto.com/reader#405f9df86535ee46_18here, he's peeved that his little bro is smiling, just because "jelly"

http://vatoto.com/reader#405f9df86535ee46_26"I want to see him miserable"

http://vatoto.com/reader#405f9df86535ee46_35"this means war"

He "wished" for a happy ending for both of them (he knows that Ichika likes/liked the little bro), but then decided that his own selfish desire was paramount, so that his little bro ends up colder and lonelier is finally of no importance compared to it.

I wouldn't have any qualm about the girl choosing the older bro if it was a fair "fight", but he's just taking advantage of weaknesses he himself created in the other two. And he's just an ass, sorry.

That the little bro is immature and prone to outburst is of no relevance. Yukinari is childish, I'll give you that, but he's not a schemer.

I just don't like the older bro's attitude. He's smug, persuaded he's the better man, even though he's always been jealous of his little bro and feels entitled to steal the girl his little bro always loved, hugging her and kissing her.

He's allowed to like her. But going out of his way to hurt his little bro and push him out of the way, instead of letting the girl choose fairly is poor form.

The older brother is a real asshole.

 

He ruined both their lives, but now, he wants the girl too, because "I'm allowed to want her for myself, right? After all, I assaulted her while she slept."

 

"So let's try to NTR Yukinari and make him miserable once again. No hard feelings, bro".

 

I want to slap him.

That seems a little strong . . . for one thing, how do you get "NTR"?  She's not in any way shape or form dating the younger brother; is she supposed to be his property or something?

And while the older brother blames himself a whole bunch for what happened in the past, he didn't actually do anything particularly terrible--teased his younger bro a bit.  He did not, for instance, nearly freeze anyone to death.  How was he supposed to know the kid would snap and almost kill her having his little tantrum?  I think you're taking the older bro's self-blame at face value a little too much, but what I see is someone who has been trying, somewhat, to put himself in the background and hand things to his brother out of guilt even though he has no real responsibility to do so.  He may not always do the right thing, but at least the idea is on his radar.

The older brother is a real asshole.

 

He ruined both their lives, but now, he wants the girl too, because "I'm allowed to want her for myself, right? After all, I assaulted her while she slept."

 

"So let's try to NTR Yukinari and make him miserable once again. No hard feelings, bro".

 

I want to slap him.

Honestly I prefer the older brother.  He made a mistake when he was a little boy.  And I don't know how many men kiss a girl when she's asleep in manga, the hero does that a lot.  Not that I think it is right, but it seems to be the norm and it isn't like he groped her.  To me it isn't that he wants to ruin his younger brother's life, but if you have two brothers or two friends who both like the same girl and both fight for her, one of them is bound to be hurt.  I dislike the younger brother's personality, his personality type in manga always irritates me.  But I know where this is going in my heart and I wish I was wrong.  I'll keep reading anyways in hopes I am wrong.

The older brother is a real asshole.

He ruined both their lives, but now, he wants the girl too, because "I'm allowed to want her for myself, right? After all, I assaulted her while she slept."

"So let's try to NTR Yukinari and make him miserable once again. No hard feelings, bro".

I want to slap him.

I didn't realize the extra chapter was only a few pages long because there was a one-shot included too. Otherwise, I would've done it last week... The one-shot doesn't have any english translations out either, but I'll work on it if I find some. It's titled "Kimi no Yume Nara Boku mo Mitai" if anyone's curious. This also marks the end of the second volume! Enjoy~

Awww Yukimari is just a little cinnamon roll with "frost"ing on top

I personally am just fine with bakemono-sama, aniki and so on staying untranslated.

Meanwhile, what a cute chapter . . . crying ice-crystals, awww.  Thanks ilaanon!

I tried to localize the translations as best as I could for chapters 4 and 5 (bakemono-sama -> great monsters, aniki -> brother/Tougo), but I've decided to keep those as is from now on, if they pop up again. I can't find a word that embodies the same connotation as "bakemono-sama"... Also, Reika's lines are so annoying to convert into some form of Shakespearean/Elizabethan speech LOL but that's one thing I will continue doing!!

Enjoy the next chapter~ (whenever it gets uploaded)

Stories about the "snow woman" type always kind of . . . I mean, they're neat, but there's this basic physical problem especially as you get intimate. 

Someone gets frozen, or someone gets melted; it's a bad scene all round.

I'm rereading the chapters over again. It's amazing how parents in these types of manga seem to pick the worst time to tell their kids stuff like their gonna have guests over when the kid is more engrossed in watching tv. Thinking well I told them so I guess ever things ok instead of finding a better time like while eating dinner or something.