Mayonaka no Ariadne

Well, the ending felt kind of rushed...? Or lackluster. Happy ending though, so yay

Mm. Short but alright. I feel like the mystery aspect, the story, could've used more "simmering" so to speak. As it is, the overall feeling I got is that Choko (and the reader by proxy) sort of dropped in near the end of a detective story that was getting ready to wrap up. It starts strong, but ends up feeling like there was room there to expand.... and it just didn't.

 

Whatever. The dogs were cute. Choko and the boys were likable. And hey, if there's got to be an ending, it may as well be a happy one.

The ending man, Romance? pssh. There was little to none that the tags shouldn't have included romance. Maybe instead of the Shojou tag, a Josei tag would've worked better especially how dark the plot was.

 

It does need a tragedy tag.

 

I see this as as mystery story primarily.  

The ending man, Romance? pssh. There was little to none that the tags shouldn't have included romance. Maybe instead of the Shojou tag, a Josei tag would've worked better especially how dark the plot was.

Regarding the shoujo tag. Just want to say that shoujo is actually not a genre, it's a demography targeting young girls and adolescent girls (ages 10-18).

While I basically agree with you, I still use "genre" as a shorthand because once you start getting technical you can't really stop until you don't have a word at all.  For instance, technically "shoujo" is not itself a demographic.  "young girls and adolescent girls (ages 10-18)" is a demographic; shoujo is a marketing category for manga aimed at selling to that demographic.  For that matter, "demographic" was originally an adjective; it got "nouned" quite recently by marketing people--in the old days, you would have said "young girls and adolescent girls (ages 10-18)" was a demographic group, where "demographic" was an adjective describing what kind of group you were talking about but not designating a thing in itself.  Complicating matters is that "yaoi" and "yuri" and such get treated like "shoujo" or "seinen" but they're actually not . . . they really are genres, or at least aren't named for who they're marketed to.

 

Anyway, rather than go down that rabbit hole I just call it a genre, although I agree that the distinction is sometimes important.

"I really get annoyed by all the genre bigots"--Aren't you the genre bigot?

Since you ask:  No.  

At least, not in that comment.  Luph (with good intentions as it turns out, and he? responded very handsomely about it) wrote "Better than expected, considering the shoujo genre tag".  Whatever the intent, the simple meaning of that is "Normally, the shoujo genre tag would lead one to expect something bad".  Which is to say, one expects worse from shoujo than from other genres, which is to say, shoujo sucks.  Taking exception to that does not constitute genre bigotry, sorry, bzzzt, thanks for playing.

As I say, that's not really what Luph was trying to convey; it was a miscommunication.  But the flat base meaning of what was there on the page was something I really don't feel bad about taking exception to.  And I would say the reason it seemed normal to Luph to say something like that is there are so many people talking shit like that, which is misguided and annoying.

I usually try not to be a grammar nazi but this one is one of my pet peeves. So, um, what you mean is actually "should be 'couldn't care less'", right? Because that's what it should be. 'Could care less' is the wrong version :> 

 

Aside from that, I'm so, SO happy this series has been picked up again. Can't wait ^^.

Sorry, bad example there. I don't really remember which one it is actually. I avoid using that phrase because it is as confusing to me as someone asking "do you mind?" and people saying "yes" when they mean "no" 

FUUUU i accidentally started reading this again thinking it was completed. Oh how frustrating it is to deal with this suspence! I put a hold on this for almost four years and apparently there was no point in doing so....

 

Regarding the shoujo tag. Just want to say that shoujo is actually not a genre, it's a demography targeting young girls and adolescent girls (ages 10-18). Similarly, shounen is a demography targeted towards young boys and adolescent boys; josei demography is targeting adult/older women; etc. It's true there is a general formula that has become representative of these demographies, it is still an erroneous use of these terms when referring them to being "genres". Common in use but it doesn't mean it is correct. (Like Americans say "couldn't care less" when it should actually be "could care less")

I usually try not to be a grammar nazi but this one is one of my pet peeves. So, um, what you mean is actually "should be 'couldn't care less'", right? Because that's what it should be. 'Could care less' is the wrong version :> 

 

Aside from that, I'm so, SO happy this series has been picked up again. Can't wait ^^.

Completely misread "class club" as "chess club" was totally confused for like 5 chapters...

It's been 3 years since I last read this whoa time to reread everything again

Le Wild chapter appears, great, now I have to reread everything again

Thanks for the translation!!! I had kind of forgotten about this manga, but after rereading it it is quite interesting. I hope there will be more chapters!!

Fun manga are fun~

FUUUU i accidentally started reading this again thinking it was completed. Oh how frustrating it is to deal with this suspence! I put a hold on this for almost four years and apparently there was no point in doing so....

 

Regarding the shoujo tag. Just want to say that shoujo is actually not a genre, it's a demography targeting young girls and adolescent girls (ages 10-18). Similarly, shounen is a demography targeted towards young boys and adolescent boys; josei demography is targeting adult/older women; etc. It's true there is a general formula that has become representative of these demographies, it is still an erroneous use of these terms when referring them to being "genres". Common in use but it doesn't mean it is correct. (Like Americans say "couldn't care less" when it should actually be "could care less")

This one is good. I recommend it . Too bad it seems like there won't be any update soon.

"I really get annoyed by all the genre bigots"--Aren't you the genre bigot?. Depending on the kind of "shoujo" one has been reading, there'll bound to be some differences in one's idea of what a "shoujo" is/supposed to be, doesn't matter its actual dictionary definition.

Bigot is such a harsh word, in my opinion, when one was just trying to express one's opinion. I don't sense any bigotry nor complain on the quality/mangaka from Luph's comment. I don't sense any "diss" to the shoujo genre either.

Anyway, I think Luph's comment is fine and at least it gives me some insight on the kind of manga this is.

I realise I might have taken the wrong approach in advertising the manga, but I was attempting to emphasise how it subverted typical shoujo tropes in a manner which would resonate with those harboring a stigma against such a genre and, thus, have them give MnA a try. If my comment sounded condescending, it wasn't intended.

As dumb as it may sound, that was my line of reasoning at the time. On the topic of genre bigotry, I just see it as something people grow out of, however unpleasant it may be in the meantime (also consider: it isn't uncommon for a vocal minority to overshadow a silent majority, hence a perceived 'abundance' of stereotyping. Or maybe I'm overthinking things).

Presently, a number of my favorites are under the shoujo tag. And if I ever find a reason to dislike a manga nowadays, it's based on its merits. I do apologise for any offence you might have taken from my prior comment.

"considering the shoujo genre tag"--I really get annoyed by all the genre bigots, especially since nearly all of them rag on shoujo. I personally read more shoujo than anything else, but when I read a shounen do I spend all my time saying "Well, for a shounen there wasn't that much pointless panty-flashing or accidental boob-groping" or "Amazingly for a shounen one or two of the female characters showed flashes of personality beyond 'tsundere' or 'seductress'"? I do not.
It's not like shounen or josei or seinen, or yaoi for that matter, lack their own stereotypes and hackneyed crap. But it seems like there's this license to diss shoujo like it's the only genre that ever had less than stellar writing. The average quality of shoujo is about as good as any of the rest--which is to say, lots of it is crap, just like all the rest.
Here's a clue: If you don't like romance and shoujo tends to emphasize romance, that is not a quality issue. You wouldn't like Jane Austen either, but not because she was a bad writer.

Better than expected, considering the shoujo genre tag--the drama isn't overly exaggerated, the plot is interesting, and the characters are genuinely likable. On a related note, the art style is reminiscent of D.Gray-Man's younger years, but the gothic elements have been toned down to suit occasional moments of humour (a plus in my book).

Overall, MnA can be dark at times, but the mangaka deals out the drama in moderation, creating an immersive read. Recommended. (excuse any syntactical disjointedness u_u)

Dark but Interesting!! There's still a lot of mystery about this club and more questions pop up