Karin

Apart from the fact that the ending was hugely disappointing, I'm also pissed off at the whole "if you're infertile then your whole existence is pointless and you should not have been born. Ah, and also you don't deserve to be loved"...

I miss this story. Everything else from Kagesaki Yuna, sadly, has never managed to be even remotely as good. Hekikai no Aion was cool, but it just wasn't the same.

I reread this after a long time, it was one of the first manga I've ever read.

Beside these points, I enjoyed the manga.

This ending is horrible. I couldn't even cry because of how pointlessly cruel it was. Stupidity of that magnitude makes it impossible to stay engaged in a story.

sorta somewhat kind of happy ending
nice bonus chapter

I think it's been 6 years or more since I last read this. Not gonna read it again because fuck the ending. I don't remember it too well but fuck it hard.

I thought it was okay. A little bittersweet, for sure, but I kinda liked it o.o

This whole series was licensed in English and printed by TokyoPop until they went under.  I bought it back then.  I thought that was the last of it, but I see that VIZ Media is now selling the series in an Amazon Kindle version.  The individual books are huge (for a Kindle), at around 150-200Mb apiece, so you can't put too many on your Kindle at once, but they only cost about $4.00 per volume, which is not a bad price at all, for a manga professionally translated and published in English.

I think it's been 6 years or more since I last read this. Not gonna read it again because fuck the ending. I don't remember it too well but fuck it hard.

dont like the ending, so much bs

A normal vampire?  Hardly.  She can taste human food, can stay out in the sunlight, doesn't drink blood, doesn't like the dark, doesn't live for centuries, and (apparently) no longer has the craving for her "blood type."  Kanon is afraid of the dark too.

Usui Kenta needs to provide for her human needs, while her forgotten vampire family protects her from the supernatural.

I think the problem is that if she remembers, and visits her family, some of her vampire aspects will return, and she will be targeted by other vampires agen. Usui remembers because they need someone that can keep an eye out for other vampires, and keep Karin safe from them. Also the fact that the vampire god has been reborn as a human has probably made the situation more complicated, and both girls more valuable then when they were just one person.

 

Simply put, there are evil vampires out there, and Karin's family has to keep away from her so she docent become a blood sacrifice.

no not really, she lost all special powers at that point and was a somewhat normal vampire at that point a side form the producing blood thing.

I don't understand why they had to erase her memories. After all that happened, and just moments before having a good happy ending, the author just feels the urge to kick us in the gut with this, leaving this sour aftertaste in our mouths. It was a good read, I enjoyed it quite much, but seriously, such an anti-climactic ending.

Aaaand onto another issue, am I the only one who would like a spin-off wih Rei and Kanon as main characters?

I agree entirely.  The whole thing seems to be just gratuitous angst given a thin rationale.  And to me the rationale happens to be offensive--the whole idea of violating someone's memory "for their own good", without their consent, strikes me as vile and indefensible.  I'd be asking the person who decided it "Who made you God?  Why do you get to decide what someone else's 'own good' is for them?"  It's paternalistic nonsense.  (Messing with your enemy's memory, as an alternative to, say, killing them, is different--a hostile action, but then, they're your enemy)

I've done huge rants about this in other places.

Couldn't agree more, I've read this ages ago and I remember how angry I felt at this ending. There was really no reason for this to happen. 

I'm all for a bittersweet ending or a tragic ending when there's reason for it, and some kind of build-up going towards it. But this... burning rage of a thousand suns.

my reaction when i saw this updated

Oh god, its been so long since i've read this manga, so many feels right now :')

I still don't completely understand why her memories had to be erased, was it some sort of prerequisite to having her live like a normal human? Couldn't she just have lived normally with Usui as a human, and still know her family were vampires, maybe even occasionally visiting? If the answer is "because secrecy" then why did they let Usui remember?

Remember how they resolved the issue with that group of vampires before? I don't think her vampire aspects would return, either. It's not to hide her or something like that. If I remember correctly it's because while Karin would be aging, she would see her family staying the same, not changing over the decades of her life. I guess in that way, it's for her family too.

I still don't completely understand why her memories had to be erased, was it some sort of prerequisite to having her live like a normal human? Couldn't she just have lived normally with Usui as a human, and still know her family were vampires, maybe even occasionally visiting? If the answer is "because secrecy" then why did they let Usui remember?

I think the problem is that if she remembers, and visits her family, some of her vampire aspects will return, and she will be targeted by other vampires agen. Usui remembers because they need someone that can keep an eye out for other vampires, and keep Karin safe from them. Also the fact that the vampire god has been reborn as a human has probably made the situation more complicated, and both girls more valuable then when they were just one person.

Simply put, there are evil vampires out there, and Karin's family has to keep away from her so she docent become a blood sacrifice.

I still don't completely understand why her memories had to be erased, was it some sort of prerequisite to having her live like a normal human? Couldn't she just have lived normally with Usui as a human, and still know her family were vampires, maybe even occasionally visiting? If the answer is "because secrecy" then why did they let Usui remember?

I agree entirely.  The whole thing seems to be just gratuitous angst given a thin rationale.  And to me the rationale happens to be offensive--the whole idea of violating someone's memory "for their own good", without their consent, strikes me as vile and indefensible.  I'd be asking the person who decided it "Who made you God?  Why do you get to decide what someone else's 'own good' is for them?"  It's paternalistic nonsense.  (Messing with your enemy's memory, as an alternative to, say, killing them, is different--a hostile action, but then, they're your enemy)

I've done huge rants about this in other places.

I still don't completely understand why her memories had to be erased, was it some sort of prerequisite to having her live like a normal human? Couldn't she just have lived normally with Usui as a human, and still know her family were vampires, maybe even occasionally visiting? If the answer is "because secrecy" then why did they let Usui remember?

Well that was interesting.  I like funny epilogues for this since the ending was saddening.

Uhhh nvm but still.. >.<

The author pulled a mass effect on us^^

 

 

First makes an AWESOME story and then ruins it with a crappy ending, then adds some extra stuff that doesn't improve the ending one bit

 

Ironically, the anime adaption turns out to be better because it doesn't have that crappy ending

Dude, I COMPLETELY dissagree with you, tha anime ending and story is as crappy as they get, relying heavily in over-used fan-service bits, while the way the manga is solved is quite dramatic (yeah, this is not a Urasawa manga, if you were looking for that).

So many memories. Happy to know the author is still active.

That was hilarious! Thanks Vortex!

That was good, though you can see the mangaka's drawing style has changed a bit since then...