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Hanayome wa Motodanshi


Alt Names: alt 花嫁は元男子。alt Gelin Bir Eski Erkekalt The Bride Used to be a Guy
Author: Chii
Artist: Chii
Genres: Comedy ComedyGender Bender Gender BenderRomance RomanceSlice of Life Slice of Life
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Complete
Description: Chii and her husband are like any other happily married couple, except for one thing: Chii was assigned male at birth. Chii details her autobiographical account of growing up with gender dysphoria and ultimately deciding to transition in her early adult years. Shortly after Chii starts transitioning, she meets a man who is instantly enamored by her, and although he is surprised when Chii eventually tells him she used to live as a guy, he still wants to go out with her. As Chii continues to transition, her boyfriend supports her through the process, culminating in their marriage once her transition is complete.
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This is one of those manga where you can read the description and instantly know the comment section is going to be a blast to read.

I'm fine with the gender bender tag staying.@, as there's no proper alternative. It would be nice in future if there were three different tags though, one for the full magical/future science gender switch, one for transsexuallism, and one for crossdressing.

First of all, "gender studies" are not related to transsexualism nor GID at all.
 
You maybe mean "medical science" instead.
 
 
There is absolutely no reason to accept an idea such as "gender-fluid" or "star-gender" that COMPLETELY and ABSOLUTELY lacks any kind of evidence, other than a teenager trying to be special on a blog.
 
Evidence before claim, not the other way.
 
That's how science fields work.
 
Science has studied Transsexualism and validated it as a legit condition.
 
Things like "Cat-gender" "multi-gender" "dragon-gender" "tri-gender" "mayonnaise-gender" or "gender-fluid" haven't.
 
Please do provide a peer-reviewed scientific document in case they have, because a "keep your mind open" is just a silly, if not illogical thing to say.


Well "gender" is a sociological term and is really up in the air as long as the term is recognized with in a societiy. Now, on the other hand "sex" is a biological term define by sexual distinguishing genes in this case chromosomes X & Y
Sociologists make a distinction between gender and sex. "Gender" refers to a person's perceived or projected social location within culturally established designations between masculine and feminine behaviors (e.g., gender refers to a person's attempt to signify a masculine or feminine self as well as a person's attempt to categorize someone else in terms of their presentation (intentional or otherwise) of masculine or feminine selfhood). Sex, however, refers to a person's assignment, usually by medical, religious, familial, and / or governmental authorities, into categories socially constructed on the basis of perceived genetic and biological factors
West, Candace and Don H. Zimmerman. 1987. Doing Gender. Gender & Society 1: 125-151.

Getting my masters in Genetics with a minor in easter civ had to take soc and psy for 2 years

Wow, I really needed this. It's hard to really describe it into words, but as a person who is veeeery scared of transitioning, who doesn't know know what to do with her life and who is basically just really depressed because of the many complicating matters that come with being trans, it was really really really really really really really really really heartwarming, helpful, motivating, inspiring and just sooo much more to read this story.

 

Seeing her being so happy, and all the people surrounding her being so openminded and supportive gives me new hope of a bright future, even when it is hard to clearly imagine it at the moment. 

 

Is there any way to contact the author and send her some sort of message? Because I really want to thank her for making this.

 

Sorry it's so late, but I believe that you can try to contact via twitter:

https://twitter.com/chii_gid_mtf

Wow, I really needed this. It's hard to really describe it into words, but as a person who is veeeery scared of transitioning, who doesn't know know what to do with her life and who is basically just really depressed because of the many complicating matters that come with being trans, it was really really really really really really really really really heartwarming, helpful, motivating, inspiring and just sooo much more to read this story.

 

Seeing her being so happy, and all the people surrounding her being so openminded and supportive gives me new hope of a bright future, even when it is hard to clearly imagine it at the moment. 

 

Is there any way to contact the author and send her some sort of message? Because I really want to thank her for making this.

I'm really quite happy for this person and her husband. Their feelings really bleeds from this work, and there were multiple times where I felt like really shedding a tear. I used to dream of doing what they did, but I never had the courage to challenge the consequences of doing so. But reading stories like this gives me a lot of positive energy all the same.

It seems that we are talking at cross purposes.

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I believe we have strayed far enough from the original topic. If you wish to discuss this subject matter further, I'd be happy to create a new thread in the forum section. Otherwise, we may just have to agree to disagree ;)

While I myself wouldn't enter a relationship w/o sex and see it (sex) as fundamental - although I can endure a quite good amount of time w/o sex since my gf lives in the neighbour state, etc - there are assexual individuals in romantic and healthy relationships. It's hard for them, that much I know since I have more than one friend that is assexual, but it's possible. Let's try to not judge others based on our own preferences, even if it's hard.

Could you please drop the extra "s" out of "asexual"? When I see it spelled that way, my mind reverts to age 13. ^_^'

 

Random trivia: As prefixes go, if there were such a word it would actually mean "to/toward [sexual]" (Latin, ad- sometimes drops the d and repeats the initial consonant) as opposed to "away from [sexual]" (Latin, ab- or a-).

 Nevertheless, I would appreciate it if you remained open-minded for new concepts, too. Gender studies is such a new and complex field, and I can't help thinking that we're still in the fledgling stages. It would be a shame to dismiss new ideas and developments before we had the chance to explore them.

 

First of all, "gender studies" are not related to transsexualism nor GID at all.

 

You maybe mean "medical science" instead.

 

 

There is absolutely no reason to accept an idea such as "gender-fluid" or "star-gender" that COMPLETELY and ABSOLUTELY lacks any kind of evidence, other than a teenager trying to be special on a blog.

 

Evidence before claim, not the other way.

 

That's how science fields work.

 

Science has studied Transsexualism and validated it as a legit condition.

 

Things like "Cat-gender" "multi-gender" "dragon-gender" "tri-gender" "mayonnaise-gender" or "gender-fluid" haven't.

 

Please do provide a peer-reviewed scientific document in case they have, because a "keep your mind open" is just a silly, if not illogical thing to say.

 

While I myself wouldn't enter a relationship w/o sex and see it (sex) as fundamental - although I can endure a quite good amount of time w/o sex since my gf lives in the neighbour state, etc - there are assexual individuals in romantic and healthy relationships. It's hard for them, that much I know since I have more than one friend that is assexual, but it's possible. Let's try to not judge others based on our own preferences, even if it's hard.

Man.  This manga was delightful, warm, and educational.  I loved every minute of it and while I felt it was good just from the reading of it, two things confirmed it for me;

 

1.)  Seeing sources & references at the end is a damn good sign that I learned something real while reading it.  (I get this experience with medical manga a lot.)

2.) As a heterosexual male, I was able to forget all of that, set it aside, and think;  "Damn, that is an enviable relationship.  I want to create that for the person I love."

 

This read just feels psychologically healthy.  I feel (and hope) that I am a slightly better person for it.  Just my two cents.

 

 

lol i dont think fucking is needed in having a happy relationship 

 

[Assumptions:  Relationship = Romantic / Intimate Relationship between Consenting Adults]

[Caveats:  Internet Semantic & Syntactic Misunderstandings (ISSM)]

 

That sounds like the happy, loving, optimistic and naive beginning to a painful, self-effacing and thorn-ridden non-adult adult relationship.

 

Let us all be so lucky that we can value our sexual health, needs and experiences as a normal and stable part of ourselves and our partners.  Good wishes to you, I promise I mean no harm to you, the individual.  I just don't think any adult with functional sexual needs should have to prolonged exposure to that, even if they think they can handle it.

This was really sweet

yo assholes who keep trying to add the gender bender tag to this: stop

yo assholes who keep trying to add the gender bender tag to this: stop

Haters gonna hate, assholes gonna defecate. XP

yo assholes who keep trying to add the gender bender tag to this: stop

Congratulations author and husband :)

 

I almost missed this. I hope batoto make following groups not suck.

 

I really like this kind of art. I wonder if I can get it on stickers

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But how do they fuuuuuck

lol i dont think fucking is needed in having a happy relationship

Leaving aside whether they do or not, and what they privately do in bed, Chii did transition the whole way. So the parts required for typical heterosexual sex are present if that's what was being asked. Besides, sex does/can be defined to encompass a great spectrum of acts and body parts and tools if so desired.

But how do they fuuuuuck

 

lol i dont think fucking is needed in having a happy relationship 

I hope they will stay happily married. 

But how do they fuuuuuck

Reading this makes me feel very happy. I'm glad the author's post transition life turned out so well. This makes me feel so hopeful :).

That was sweet! So funny how her family reacted at the wedding. Advisement to the long posters below to take the conversation to the forums. While relevant to the manga in the sense it's about the same broad topic, it's getting hard to browse the comments section. Especially if you're just looking for commentary on Chii's experiences.

Awwww

 

 

I honestly don't know what else to comment; I'm sad it's already over but the ending sure is beautiful. Congratulations to Chii and her husband <3 I hope they live a good life together

You know i normally stay away from these stories. But this was so well made i didnt mind. But i think the reason why is that this story is not about that. It is about a couple loving each other so much they dont care about the obstacles in their way. I respect that.

 

Now only if other mangas were like this instead of... SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX... Dear god creators we don't need that for a great story. And i mean for all couplings.

Oh boy oh boy we got a tru trans shithead.  Double points if they themselves are trans; always nice to hear transphobic shit from another trans person.

 

Genderfluid/genderqueer/non-binary folks are just as trans as binary trans people.  They can suffer form dysphoria as much as or as little as any binary trans person.  In some ways some of them have it worse, if their identity is one that is difficult to express (e.g. some form of androgyny that would get them shit from others, or overall body/genital configurations that aren't possible given current medical tech). 

 

Are there dumb teens on tumblr proclaiming to be genderfluid while not being so?  Yes.  But there are also those who claim to be binary trans while not being trans, gay while not being gay, or outlandish things that don't really exist (e.g. otherkin).  They're just dumb teens and/or people with some other issues and that's how they're expressing it.  Most will grow out of it, some may figure out that they are trans, others won't but as long as they're not being too much of a shit about it then who the fuck cares.  They're not endangering the trans cause or anything since most people don't even know tumblr exists.

Except that genderfluid etc is simply saying "Yeah my dysphoria isn't as bad today". That's literally how genderfluid came into being. People invented it as a way of describing how their dysphoria was acting on a certain day. The original author had a few points but was patently incorrect on their interpretation of genderqueer to reduce it to not being real etc. However, the original poster had a fair point: it's getting stupid complicated and leveling criticism at it is NOT being transphobic. It is being a proper intellectual. Challenging and questioning assumptions. 

What I find more telling is that kids like you assume that asking questions and criticizing is somehow being transphobic. And the special pleas used are really astonishing too. 


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