Fate/Apocrypha

Reika and Jack best master/servant duo. So crazy yet so cute. <3

Jeanne's chest looks like two balloons super inflated inside her shirt. I'm aroused.

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Hey, don't give a decent design to someone who wouldn't show up anymore after three pages dammit.

Jeanne's chest looks like two balloons super inflated inside her shirt. I'm aroused.

Just asking, which one is more true to the original novel? The manga or the anime? Since I noticed the manga and anime seems to differ here and there and I haven't read the original novel too

If you want a faithful adaptation go with manga, if you want a wrecked adaptation that gets mostly shit on every episode go with the anime. I guess that's how it goes for Apo.

Page 23 the only page that mattered

Sweet christ this chapter was rushed. Some of the panels were copy pasted.

Oh hey, Angron is still alive, I was wondering what had happened to him after he got subdued.

Actually

Spoiler

Achille's invulnerability wasn't because of his armor, but because his mother, Thetis, was a goddess (technically a nymph of the sea) and when he was a baby she dipped him in the Styx river, keeping him by the hill (Achilleid) or alternatively she kept him over a fire for the same reason during his first night, but his father, a mortal, saw this and shouted in fear, causing the mother to drop him, in this case the heel was the only part non made invincible and it was burned in the process, so the mother replaced it with a bone from a giant. This giant was famous for his speed running and Achilles inherited that speed (the Argonautica). Indeed his invulnerability is a later, Roman legend, in the Ilyad he is monstruosly strong, but not imprevious to wounds.

heel* Also, never heard of the fire version. Only the Styx one. I also don't recall the part about the giant's bone. Meh. There are different versions in mythology, I guess, hard to know which one's real, but that leaves authors some room for interpretation I guess, which is not all that bad. X)

Astolfo talk no jutsu, the plot degrade after this

I hear people raged when Saber of Black gave his life to save Sieg, but after seeing the thing myself I can't agree.

 

Yes, it was a complete waste of a very powerful Servant, but said Servant already had the rotten luck of being summoned by an utterly incompetent and unworthy Master, so I approve of him doing good for Sieg and leaving Gordes with nothing.

it's like he said. he almost lost sight of what he aimed to be.

I hear people raged when Saber of Black gave his life to save Sieg, but after seeing the thing myself I can't agree.

Yes, it was a complete waste of a very powerful Servant, but said Servant already had the rotten luck of being summoned by an utterly incompetent and unworthy Master, so I approve of him doing good for Sieg and leaving Gordes with nothing.

Agree. Haven't read the novel but most consider it just goes downhill after the 1st volume. I read a little of what happen at the end of apocrypha and I'll probably just forget this series as apparently...

Spoiler

it has a romance subplot with Jeanne and Seig and they get together at the end

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You also get divinities like Medusa so it could extend to even gods (like in Kaleid) so you could pull gods and titans so invincibility or some level of invincibility is not really out of question I mean both Siegfried and Achilles got their invincibility pierced. Still suppose you are right too mythologically speaking not a lot of well known invincibles out there I overstated.

Titans and gods with their full power and invincibility can't be summoned.  Thats why archer of black isn't indestructible despite being originally a god with that power.  When gods do show up, they generally have to degrade themselves, either by taking a form in their myth when they became mortal/semi mortal, or by doing shenanigans like possessing a mortal body.  If you narrow it down to humans and demigods, invincible pplz are pretty easy to figure out.  That said, rider of red's weakness is pretty dang hard to exploit, unlike Seigfried's, which is a giant glowing point on his back.

Sieg is fine.

It looks like this one is gonna be a Greek circle jerk lol

Why can't we just have a 7v7 war instead of focusing on a goddamn self insert

Agree. Haven't read the novel but most consider it just goes downhill after the 1st volume. I read a little of what happen at the end of apocrypha and I'll probably just forget this series as apparently...

Why can't we just have a 7v7 war instead of focusing on a goddamn self insert

Arguing about Rider of Red

Huh... did y'all don't read the novel? All Servants' identities are spoiled immediately on that one right?

Or even FGO? Even the biggest spoiler of Apocrypha is in there!

The anime is gonna be fun, ppl arguing all day about Servants' identities and suddenly bam... !!

Ppl remember FGO

Invincible Greek hero? You know quite a few? =/ I mean, ok, there's Hercules, Achilles......

You also get divinities like Medusa so it could extend to even gods (like in Kaleid) so you could pull gods and titans so invincibility or some level of invincibility is not really out of question I mean both Siegfried and Achilles got their invincibility pierced. Still suppose you are right too mythologically speaking not a lot of well known invincibles out there I overstated.

 

 

Now, about Rider of Red:

(Since it may be a spoiler I'm putting it in spoiler tags)

Spoiler

But in this case this guy is indeed Achilles, his suit of armor is the main evidence here. Achilles was one of Zeus sons who was gifted with a full suit of armor, that armor is the reason he was invincible, and his weakness also came from the fact that said armor didn't offer any protection to his heel. Look at page 3 of chapter 12, there lies the answer.

Actually

Astolfo's garter straps. Hnngghhh.